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Okay, so new to the site. I have been reading a lot of the posts for a while now. Today I recieved1 litre of sulphuric acid 98% and 500 ml of formic acid 85% They're currently sat on the coffee table in front of me. My life has completely gone to shit over the past two years and especially over the last month. I honestly dont see me being able to escape the problems of my past. I just dont know how to make that final step and actually do it.
 
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RoloTomasi

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Some alchohol might help, even for just a little.
 
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If i was doing it at home i'dprobably agree. however i fear that i would endanger my neighbours so i think it'll have to be in my car somewhere.
 
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You can take your time after finding an isolated spot, I hope there is plenty near your location.
 
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Okay so after watching the GULPS video on carbon monoxide generation I have constructed this as a means to avoid doing it in my car. I just tested it with a small amount of acid and laid back on my sofa. In less than a minute I felt incredibly drowsy and my body felt really weird. Kinda like it wanted to spasm. I jumped up and tried to quickly dump the acid out of the reaction chamber but felt like my body was going to collapse under me. I removed myself to my bedroom and opened the window and lay on my bed feeling incredibly faint, my head and heart both pounding. I guess at least now I know it'll work. My only concern is the way my body felt like it wanted to spasm. I'd be concerned about the face mask not staying on or me somehow knocking ober either the acid or the gas washing bottle. (I only had water in the washing bottle and the gas I inhaled smelled slightly acidic. I should probably be adding something like potassium hydroxide to the washing bottle)
 
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Diazepam, clonazepam or PHENObarbital all are used to prevent epileptic fits/spasms.
Might be worth duct taping the mask in place wrapping the tape round the back of your head a few times.
 
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For some reason it didn't post my image.

I don't have access to any kinds of diazepam etc.
 
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I'll swap you some for that guitar :-)
 
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Can you explain how this works? I know the reaction from the chems, but doesn't this also endanger people around you?

Edit:

I see you mix the chems in the glass bottle, let it flow to a bottle of water so the acidic fumes get neutralised? Anything else?
 
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Can you explain how this works? I know the reaction from the chems, but doesn't this also endanger people around you?

Edit:

I see you mix the chems in the glass bottle, let it flow to a bottle of water so the acidic fumes get neutralised? Anything else?

That's essentially it. According to the GULPS video I watched you can use as little as 150ml sulphuric and 50ml formic which will keep the reaction going for long enough to provide a pretty concentrated CO delivery if breathing it directly through a mask. It also said that the majority of the CO ends up in your blood so there is little harm to those around you as the amount of gas released to the surroundings is negligable. I'm not sure how true that is but it seemed like it would be true after my test earlier. I was able to lie down on my sofa with the windows open and still get a heavy hit of CO directly into my lungs.
Also I would suggest using something like potassium hydroxide in the washing bottle as the gas still had a slight acidic taste to it using only water.
 
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That's essentially it. According to the GULPS video I watched you can use as little as 150ml sulphuric and 50ml formic which will keep the reaction going for long enough to provide a pretty concentrated CO delivery if breathing it directly through a mask. It also said that the majority of the CO ends up in your blood so there is little harm to those around you as the amount of gas released to the surroundings is negligable. I'm not sure how true that is but it seemed like it would be true after my test earlier. I was able to lie down on my sofa with the windows open and still get a heavy hit of CO directly into my lungs.
Also I would suggest using something like potassium hydroxide in the washing bottle as the gas still had a slight acidic taste to it using only water.

Acidic taste huh? What does it taste like? I know it's pretty hard to describe taste but maybe comparing it to something else. It didn't sting or irritate?
 
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Acidic taste huh? What does it taste like? I know it's pretty hard to describe taste but maybe comparing it to something else. It didn't sting or irritate?
Kinda sour? It's hard to describe. Although I'm not sure I think it may have only been initially. Possibly from the fumes present in the glass jar that needed shifting first. Either way it wasn't that unpleasant that I couldn't breathe it but a KOH wash would possibly eliminate it.
 
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I'm assuming a koh wash is very alkaline so neautralises the ph of acids?
 
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I've got a really bad headache from my test earlier.
 
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I've got a really bad headache from my test earlier.
It was a risky test, the speed it builds you could have been unable to stop it.
 
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I've got a really bad headache from my test earlier.
Besides the headache any other physical discomfort due to the experiment?

Does the test make you consider this method as your go to method?
 
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did it bubble or anything? also this is COgen right?
 
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What kind of Hazard will it leave behind?
 
Caustic Cardinals

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Will this method leave behind a toxic mess
 
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Will this method leave behind a toxic mess
That's what I was wondering too. But apparently it doesn't. Not if you don't get in to direct contact with the acids, like swallowing it or getting on your skin.
 
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Besides the headache any other physical discomfort due to the experiment?

Does the test make you consider this method as your go to method?
immediatly after the test i felt incredibly dizzy and weak but that evenutually went away. ive just had 12 hours sleep and the headache has gone. I'd definitely chose this meathod due to how rapily the effects happened.
 
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The half life of blood/CO is around 5 hrs at normal air pressure so it'll be gone way down now.
 
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My biggest problem now is actually getting into the right state of mind to be able to go through with it.
 
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My biggest problem now is actually getting into the right state of mind to be able to go through with it.
Very true, no need to rush it. I think you have one found one of the easiest and quickest ways.
 
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Very true, no need to rush it. I think you have one found one of the easiest and quickest ways.
I don't believe any method should particularly be called easy but there we go.
 
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Ordered it yesterday after my test. Literally just arrived. I actually find it crazy how easy it has been to source stuff. Especially the sulphuric as it's supposed to be regulated but I had no problems ordering it online.
 
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