Discussion Capital punishment for homosexuality

[Pessimist]

What do you think about this phenomenon and its causes? Personally, I consider it to be an unacceptable, extreme form of homophobia, that derives directly from a theocratic form of government. Another reason I dislike religio-political ideologies.

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[KafkaF]

I say live and let live. So long as someone isn't hurting anyone else it's none of my business what they do.

 

[Pessimist]

I say live and let live. So long as someone isn't hurting anyone else it's none of my business what they do.

That's the problem, I'm not sure such liberal principles are possible under religious fundamentalism.

 

[KafkaF]

That's the problem, I'm not sure such liberal principles are possible under religious fundamentalism.

They're not. Religious fundamentalism tends to be about the strict application of supposedly unchanging divine rules. That is inherently authoritarian and does not have human happiness and freedom as its core goals.

That's why I'm a humanist, not a religious fundamentalist.

 

[sserafim]

What do you think about this phenomenon and its causes? Personally, I consider it to be an unacceptable, extreme form of homophobia, that derives directly from a theocratic form of government. Another reason I dislike religio-political ideologies.

Capital punishment for homosexuality - Wikipedia

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Why are most of them Muslim? Only one is Christian

 

[Malaria]

I think it's evil and cruel. It makes me hate humanity so much and I am disgusted with how people treat others like this.

 

[Proteus]

Why are most of them Muslim? Only one is Christian

The joke explains itself lol.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think it's appalling to do this in the name of religion or any other reason. Do they think homosexuals are pretending to be gay to piss 'God' off? If there is a God- who do you suppose created homosexuality in the first place? And why? To see if they would resist their urges? I mean- maybe. A lot of religion does seem set up like that. Resist lust, gluttony, wrath etc. to prove how much you love God. Fine- if you want to play along. Who knows? Maybe it's all true and you'll get your reward in heaven. But, a lot of the world is secular now. Religion isn't law. All of us shouldn't have to abide by someone else's beliefs.

Even when it was illegal, it messed up people's lives. Imagine being told you couldn't consentually love someone who loved you back. That's so messed up!

As for people saying it isn't 'natural'. Neither is wearing clothes, driving a car, eating processed food, using the internet, watching Netflix etc. You wanna give those things up too? Besides- we do see homosexuality in animals sometimes.

The other argument I guess is promiscuity and the spread of STDs. I know straight people who are incredibly promiscuous as well. Honestly- it's not my thing but, whatever their sexuality- they both know the risks and how to protect themselves from it. It's up to them. I believe that anything that is consensual and not hurting others (I'm not keen on people who cheat,) that's their business and no one elses.

There's also the more Catholic belief that sex should be in the service of creating children... Like we need more humans on this overstretched planet!

I've even heard the argument that AIDS was God's punishment for gays... So, I'll leave it with the wonderfully outspoken Ricky Gervais on God giving the virus AIDS it's mission...

 

[juna]

Religion and state should always be separate. Religion is biased against most people. It does not take logic or science into account. Take topics like abortion or even homosexuality.
I believe in freedom to live life. Now, it's the individual's choice what they want to do as long as they are not affecting other people badly.
We don't choose who we love.
Live and let live. These religious nutters don't really think at all, not talking about a particular religion(every religion in general). I watched a documentary on genetic defects in children of first cousin marriage couples. There is evidence to prove it but people refused to accept it. There was a couple who had 2 children with extreme mental and physical disabilities and they kept having children and when asked in the interview, they just blamed the doctors saying the doctors did something. There are so many other such examples.
Religion and science will never work together.
I love the west for this reason. At least they accept people for who they are. LGBTQ rights are good there. Now, even the west is becoming stupid. They want to abolish abortion. Do they know what happens to a child whose parents don't want it. Will the stupid religious people care for the child. They don't care about anyone, they just want some kind of higher ground. If they cared, they would not want any child to suffer in the foster homes. Some homes might be great but a lot are not. Kids deserve so much better.
Also, what someone does in their bedroom should be a private affair, not a government or any other person's issue. I can't understand how it is affecting them at all.

 

[Ash]

When small groups of people have all the power, such as in theocratic states, everyone suffers. The West has been just as guilty the past so IMHO, there's nothing to be gained from pointing fingers and assigning blame. No civil rights movement has ever been an overnight success as that's not how human nature works. But the best way forward to support those people who are trying to achieve change from the inside. Be positive, not negative. Win friends rather than making enemies. It's slower and frustrating but history shows us time and time again that it's the most successful method.

 

[Pluto]

The most optimistic thing to say is that evolution is not a straight line.

WWII was surely the darkest chapter of the 20th century, but later gave rise to new international cooperative structures (UN, etc.) and civil rights movements.

Similarly, while we are unfortunately drifting in a direction of fundamentalist theocracies, authoritarianism and oligarchy, it may well lead to a more enlightened global society a further 30-40 years down the line.

 

[Pessimist]

It gets even worse when we discuss extrajudicial killings.



Just recently this is what the Houthis did:

Nine men sentenced to death for alleged sodomy by Houthi court

Nine men were sentenced to death by a Houthi court in Yemen in a mass trial over “dubious” charges of sodomy, says a human rights group.

www.thepinknews.com

Houthi rebels sentence 13 to death on homosexuality charges in Yemen

A Houthi-run court in Yemen has sentenced 13 people to executed, on charges relating to homosexuality, a judicial court confirmed this week.

www.thepinknews.com

 

[Ferdinand Bardamu]

It gets even worse when we discuss extrajudicial killings.

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Just recently this is what the Houthis did:

Nine men sentenced to death for alleged sodomy by Houthi court

Nine men were sentenced to death by a Houthi court in Yemen in a mass trial over “dubious” charges of sodomy, says a human rights group.

www.thepinknews.com

Houthi rebels sentence 13 to death on homosexuality charges in Yemen

A Houthi-run court in Yemen has sentenced 13 people to executed, on charges relating to homosexuality, a judicial court confirmed this week.

www.thepinknews.com

What do you think about this phenomenon and its causes? Personally, I consider it to be an unacceptable, extreme form of homophobia, that derives directly from a theocratic form of government. Another reason I dislike religio-political ideologies.

Capital punishment for homosexuality - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

>Most of them are Muslim
Every. Fucking. Time.

 

[1MiserableGuy]

Full blown echo chamber.

 

[IndigoVibe]

I say live and let live. So long as someone isn't hurting anyone else it's none of my business what they do.

Exactly, neither religion or government.