Can't decide which method to CTB

[ATM]

I've messed up my life big time, and now living at home with my wife in a deep fog of depression.
I thought the exit bag would be the simplest way but having done a lot of reading on the forum I now really don't know.
Also the thought of failing makes me feel worse.
If only it was simple.

 

[canneloni12]

My wife left me partially because I have a controlling mother, who I now resent. My Dad is dead. My sister abused me as a child and now death is my destiny.

 

[befree]

The method depends on you personal situation, where you live and the availability of the required equipment. I suggest to read the PPH and other booksand guides to get an idea:

PPeH_April_2022.pdf - AnonFiles

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CO method Fliesenbourg English.pdf - AnonFiles

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SN NN guide english.pdf - AnonFiles

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Five Last Acts (2015).pdf - AnonFiles

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Guide to a Humane Self-Chosen Death 2009 (Admiraal Pieter) (z-lib.org).epub - AnonFiles

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[ATM]

My wife left me partially because I have a controlling mother, who I now resent. My Dad is dead. My sister abused me as a child and now death is my desti

 

[Graytaichi]

Can u share what are your systoms of depression. Im a self taught psychiatrist, i can help u.

 

[ATM]

Thanks befree.
I naively thought it was a straightforward bag on head and turn on the N2.
I will read and consider.
@Graytaichi - From the moment I wake up from restless sleep till I fall asleep again all I think about is "it's time to get off". Butterflies in my stomach, thoughts of the harm done to my family - I've just got to get out.
I'm thinking it's like when I wake myself up from a night mare, I can switch this one off by CTB.

 

[Lebensunwertes]

@Graytaichi - From the moment I wake up from restless sleep till I fall asleep again all I think about is "it's time to get off". Butterflies in my stomach, thoughts of the harm done to my family - I've just got to get out.
I'm thinking it's like when I wake myself up from a night mare, I can switch this one off by CTB.

Get diagnosed by a professional, not a "self-taught psychiatrist" who writes pseudo philosophical musings using grammar of a 12-years-old. If you're willing to improve your state then it won't be done by a serious therapy. This cannot be done through an online forum.

 

[outrider567]

Thanks befree.
I naively thought it was a straightforward bag on head and turn on the N2.
I will read and consider.
@Graytaichi - From the moment I wake up from restless sleep till I fall asleep again all I think about is "it's time to get off". Butterflies in my stomach, thoughts of the harm done to my family - I've just got to get out.
I'm thinking it's like when I wake myself up from a night mare, I can switch this one off by CTB.

Inert Gas Exit Bag Mega Thread here(just scroll down) is what you want for more info--Read the last 20pages, Greenberg is the expert---Nitrogen tank/regulator/flowmeter,clear plastic tubing, turkey plastic bag--Making the Exit Bag is a pain tho--[removed due to sourcing] company has the regulator/flowmeter together(2 in 1)--$300(they alsosell the plastic tubing)--Nitrogen tank $250 but not allowed to name the company

 

[befree]

If you consider the helium or nitrogen method I would rather recommend to do it with the improved method with diving equipment.

 

[FuneralCry]

I wish that suicide is easier more than anything, it hurts me that it is so difficult to leave all the suffering behind. I feel trapped in this world as I have very limited access to methods. I'm sorry that you are in such an unbearable situation. If only there was a way to peacefully pass away without having to go through the process of planning ctb. The fear of failure is also what holds me back, the thought of ending up in a worse condition is so horrifying. I hope that you find what you are looking for.

 

[ATM]

Yep completely agree it's so difficult to leave and horrible to remain in this unbearable situation.
Had a session with my therapist today and it has helped but regression is inevitable,
I also read somewhere that the diving equipment method wasn't safe so again doubts remain.

 

[Seeking_Peace]

Yep completely agree it's so difficult to leave and horrible to remain in this unbearable situation.
Had a session with my therapist today and it has helped but regression is inevitable,
I also read somewhere that the diving equipment method wasn't safe so again doubts remain.

Order n if you're serious. Those other methods aren't efficient. I've failed enough attempts I'm going the professional route this time around.

 

[ATM]

I'm in UK and from what I've read getting hold of N is not so easy.

 

[befree]

Yep completely agree it's so difficult to leave and horrible to remain in this unbearable situation.
Had a session with my therapist today and it has helped but regression is inevitable,
I also read somewhere that the diving equipment method wasn't safe so again doubts remain.

Helium or nitrogen with diving equipment is considered one of the safest and painless methods. And the good thing is, the equipment is easy and affordable to get.

 

[ATM]

Yes am thinking more of the nitrogen route.
Anybody know if this cylinder from ebay would be any good? Nitrogen N2 Disposable Gas Bottle Cylinder Food Grade 2.2L 100 BAR M10 Thread?

 

[befree]

No. That cylinder wont work. You better think about the diving equipment. All you have to do is replace the oxygen bottle with a helium cylinder and buy an adapter. Everything else works automatically.

 

[ATM]

Surely if I connect it to a regulator sold with the cylinder and then to an exit bag it would work?
I'm not sure about how to obtain the diving equipment.

 

[befree]

You can buy the diving equipment everywhere.

This is what I have:

5 liters helium 4.6 (99,996% purity) in a refillable cylinder (you need at least helium 2.6 = 99,8% purity)

adapter for helium: diving cylinder G 5/8" internal thread - Helium W21.8 internal thread

(If you wanna use nitrogen instead: adapter for Nitrogen:
diving cylinder G 5/8" internal thread – Nitrogen W24 internal thread)

full face diving mask Poseidon®

regulator CRESSI® MC9/COMPACT

 

[ATM]

Well this diving stuff is over £1000 here and that's without the cylinder so I'm leaning towards SN now. Seems simpler

 

[befree]

I paid GBP160,- for the regulator, GBP25,- for the adapter, GBP90,- for the fullface diving mask, GBP175,- for a 5 liters helium 4.6 cylinder + shipping to my country = appr. GBP450,- in total.

It´s not simple to exchange an oxygen cylinder for a helium cylinder by using an adpater ? WOW
This is what it basically is.

 

[faunaaaa]

I want to go with N. It's expensive, and probably being seized, but I feel like I don't have any other options. The only thing stopping me is from validating that the email address I have is right, since it shows up as a scam on protonmail. I wish this were all easier

 

[ATM]

Well those prices are OK but I don't know where to source them. As I say the prices I looked at were over the top.
And yes if only it were easy! hah!

 

[befree]

What's not easy about swapping one bottle for another ? Thousands of people worldwide use this equipment for diving every day (with oxygen of course). But you say this epuipment is complicated ?

Sources:

amazon: regulator
diving store (internet): fullface diving mask and adapter
gas retailer: helium

I ordered everything from Germany and got it shipped to my country without any problems.
Let me know if there is anything I can help you with.

 

[ATM]

Thanks for the info.
I'll try and see if I can do better on the sourcing.
I'll let you know if I need further help. From what I have read on the forum helium tends to be mixed with air or some such so I'm a bit concerned it won't be sufficiently pure to do the job.

 

[befree]

Thanks for the info.
I'll try and see if I can do better on the sourcing.
I'll let you know if I need further help. From what I have read on the forum helium tends to be mixed with air or some such so I'm a bit concerned it won't be sufficiently pure to do the job.

As I said, you need at least helium 2.8 = 99,8% purity. I have a 5 liter refillable cylinder helium 4.6 = 99,996% purity. So everything with at least 2.8 or higher is ok.

I can help you with sources and photos. But first you have to post more to be able to receive and send PM´s.

 

[Hope:-)]

Which method is the least painful?