It's better than some other countries with regards to assisted death but as mentioned above, it won't be easy. If you have suffered long enough, you will have to have a good medical/psychiatric records showing that you have tried and failed, numerous attempts at getting better. That will include meds and therapies. I don't believe ECT should be part of a deciding factor because that is a very personal choice in treatment of depression. Maybe rTMS though. I haven't read all the proposals about the bill yet, but I know it is not going to be easy to qualify. If you have worked with a good psychiatrist and therapist and have good rapport with them, especially over years then they may be more inclined to help you with your wishes. But like anything, it'll not be easy for just anybody who has relatively new onset of depression or bipolar depression to simply ask for AD from maid services. This also depends on the MAID team on your province. I think pegasos in Switzerland accepts those with mental illness and maybe Life Circle but I don't know for sure. Probably pegasos does. Dignitas I'm not too sure of.
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Canada was the first to make it complicated/ impossible to get access to SN after the first wave of SN suicide. Canadian authorities are clowns.
LeavingEarly
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- Mar 19, 2022
- 301
They are legalizing assisted suicide for non terminally ill??? Do you have a source?
Dr Iron Arc
Into the Unknown
- Feb 10, 2020
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I don't, sorry. I just remember seeing someone making a thread about that here.
everhopeless
Seeker
- May 2, 2022
- 26
This is what the article says:I misread the initial article - it IS now legal in Canada. I'm going to research qualifying criteria and see if US citizens are also able to qualify.
More info- (from a source that isn't exactly excited about this lol)
A vote was forced, and on March 17, 2021, the C-7 expansion of euthanasia in Canada became law, complete with the last-minute amendment to sunset the mental illness exclusion after 2 years. So it's law, but the law is not yet in effect.
its-about-time
nope
- Mar 19, 2022
- 807
From what I gathered, until the 2 year adjustment period is over, it is legal but every individual clinician can choose to not participate for the time being. So, some are probably practicing under the new law already, while others are using the time to reorient their practice to the new law. I read somewhere that from day 1 of the new law, people with mental illness could access that option and the clinician would be free of any potential legal consequence.
wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
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It already is the law and people are already able to access/use MAID.
It's a legal healthcare option.
Some stories have garnered a lot of attention in the media, especially because some could have potentially improved their symptoms by moving to better suited housing, but couldn't afford or find any. They had substantial allergies and would have required VERY specific chemical-free/scent-free homes which don't really exist, unless newly built specifically for these kind of patients.
The law distinguishes track 1 (terminally ill or death foreseeable) and track 2 (illness would not lead to death within foreseeable timespan, but suffering is substantial and illness is incurable).
Come March 2023 Canada will add track 3 for people with mental illnesses but no other physical impairments.
Canada will soon offer doctor-assisted death to the mentally ill. Who should be eligible?
Canada is still determining who should be eligible for MAID for mental illness, but some experts say it could become the most permissive jurisdiction in the…
LeavingEarly
Specialist
- Mar 19, 2022
- 301
Do you live in Canada?It already is the law and people are already able to access/use MAID.
It's a legal healthcare option.
Some stories have garnered a lot of attention in the media, especially because some could have potentially improved their symptoms by moving to better suited housing, but couldn't afford or find any. They had substantial allergies and would have required VERY specific chemical-free/scent-free homes which don't really exist, unless newly built specifically for these kind of patients.
The law distinguishes track 1 (terminally ill or death foreseeable) and track 2 (illness would not lead to death within foreseeable timespan, but suffering is substantial and illness is incurable).
Come March 2023 Canada will add track 3 for people with mental illnesses but no other physical impairments.
Canada will soon offer doctor-assisted death to the mentally ill. Who should be eligible?
Canada is still determining who should be eligible for MAID for mental illness, but some experts say it could become the most permissive jurisdiction in the…nationalpost.com
wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
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Yes.
This last week we also received the latest report from the advisory committee on how people with mental health illnesses should be assessed starting next March.
How to distinguish suicidality vs rational decision to request MAID.
Very interesting points and very curious to see how they will train assessors going forward.
Final Report of the Expert Panel on MAiD and Mental Illness - Canada.ca
The final report of the Expert Panel on MAiD and Mental Illness
LeavingEarly
Specialist
- Mar 19, 2022
- 301
I wish I was Canadian this program seems promising.Yes.
This last week we also received the latest report from the advisory committee on how people with mental health illnesses should be assessed starting next March.
How to distinguish suicidality vs rational decision to request MAID.
Very interesting points and very curious to see how they will train assessors going forward.
Final Report of the Expert Panel on MAiD and Mental Illness - Canada.ca
The final report of the Expert Panel on MAiD and Mental Illnesswww.canada.ca
Can't collect taxes on a dead person. U.S. is all about prolonging life which keeps mandatory debts paid.Assisted suicide available for all Canadians in 2023. Why is this not available in the USA?
Canadian Senate passes bill broadening access to medically assisted death
Canada's Senate on Wednesday passed a bill expanding the scope of medically assisted death, which would make the option accessible to people with a serious medical condition but whose death is not considered imminent.www.reuters.com
ayb
"I'd feel trapped if I couldn't CTB at any time."
- Feb 15, 2019
- 291
Because of the scourge that is Christianity, and bible-humping Republicans. The US cannot even guarantee a right to abortion.Assisted suicide available for all Canadians in 2023. Why is this not available in the USA?
Canadian Senate passes bill broadening access to medically assisted death
Canada's Senate on Wednesday passed a bill expanding the scope of medically assisted death, which would make the option accessible to people with a serious medical condition but whose death is not considered imminent.
ayb
"I'd feel trapped if I couldn't CTB at any time."
- Feb 15, 2019
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Donk
Useless since day 1
- Jan 3, 2020
- 1,128
depends on your doctor as well. I mentioned MAID to my psychiatrist and he claims he didn't "believe" in assisted suicide.
wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
- 1,419
It can be. Yes.
Though the recommendations they just came out with show that it will be VERY difficult to prove eligibility.
The whole process from application to receiving MAID is expected to take 10 months or longer (including a 90 day cool off period to allow the patient to change their mind).
It will require proof that one has tried nearly every treatment over years without improvement.
If treatments are rejected it will require rational explanations why the patient won't try them.
Previous suicide attempts and involuntary hospitalizations will count against your case, because "it's the illness that makes you suicidal" and "you don't really want to die, you just think you do".
Most of these assessment criteria are highly subjective and - based on my experience - it will be extremely difficult to find 2 or 3 doctors who will agree on the same assessment.
Heck, most often a nee doctor will just throw out another slightly different diagnosis and force you to start at zero.
IMO this is an important and really great step, but DIY still seems much, much easier.
If your doctor is in Canada they have the right to object but will also be legally required to transfer your care to a colleague who is not a conscientious objector.
If not now (since you may not be eligible yet) then by March 2023.
It can be helpful to start the transfer now since waitlists are extremely long and your psychiatrist will be requested to give their opinion once you apply for MAID.
Your GP should be able to help and refer you, though it will be challenging to find a "non-objector". Right now only 1 in 4 psychiatrist believe MAID should be accessible to their patients.
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ayb
"I'd feel trapped if I couldn't CTB at any time."
- Feb 15, 2019
- 291
Keep in mind that if the conservatives take power in the future they said they'd make MAID for severe refractory mental illnesses illegal again, and work on repealing C-7. I really hope this is taken to the Supreme Court as well because excluding such patients is clearly unconstitutional. Once the court rules in favor of us the bible-humpers wouldn't be able to do anything besides pound sand.
Try to change psychiatrist early if you wish to take advantage of this option. Psychiatrists who try to "save" the lives of people who do not want to live are jailers. not doctors!
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