Canada is allowing assisted suicide for mentally ill starting 2023. Why is this not available in the USA?

[LeavingEarly]

Assisted suicide available for all Canadians in 2023. Why is this not available in the USA?

Canadian Senate passes bill broadening access to medically assisted death

Canada's Senate on Wednesday passed a bill expanding the scope of medically assisted death, which would make the option accessible to people with a serious medical condition but whose death is not considered imminent.

www.reuters.com

 

[its-about-time]

Huh. So after 2023 they MAY open it up to people with solely mental illness. I wonder what their criteria will be if/once they accept that category of person. And I wonder if foreign nationals will be able to access that service or if it's just for Canadian nationals. Thanks for sharing

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Because there are 50 different states in the US, most of which don't even allow it for terminally ill patients.

Unfortunately that while pro choice extends to abortions and administrating puberty blockers for transgender children, it doesn't to our right to die Yeah, that's too based and progressive even for the US.

 

[Al Cappella]

It won't be by private clinic, so no, you can't pop over and pop off. It's not available in the U.S. because, well, it's just not that progressive. It will come though, in certain states…

 

[Red Scare]

Unfortunately, we allow abortions

Woah, hold up...

....you think that is unfortunate?

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Woah, hold up...

....you think that is unfortunate?

Nah, I just think it's unfortunate that the line is drawn at our right to die. I apologize for the bad wording.

 

[its-about-time]

I misread the initial article - it IS now legal in Canada. I'm going to research qualifying criteria and see if US citizens are also able to qualify.

More info- (from a source that isn't exactly excited about this lol)

First, Do No Harm: New Canadian Law Allows for Assisted Suicide for Patients with Psychiatric Disorders

www.psychiatrictimes.com

 

[LeavingEarly]

I misread the initial article - it IS now legal in Canada. I'm going to research qualifying criteria and see if US citizens are also able to qualify.

More info- (from a source that isn't exactly excited about this lol)

First, Do No Harm: New Canadian Law Allows for Assisted Suicide for Patients with Psychiatric Disorders

www.psychiatrictimes.com

From what I know Canada doesn't allow suicide tourism

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Because of people who think they know better for other people what is best for them.

 

[toxictunes]

Assisted suicide available for all Canadians in 2023. Why is this not available in the USA?

Canadian Senate passes bill broadening access to medically assisted death

Canada's Senate on Wednesday passed a bill expanding the scope of medically assisted death, which would make the option accessible to people with a serious medical condition but whose death is not considered imminent.

www.reuters.com

i guess its time to become Canadian

 

[wljourney]

Huh. So after 2023 they MAY open it up to people with solely mental illness. I wonder what their criteria will be if/once they accept that category of person. And I wonder if foreign nationals will be able to access that service or if it's just for Canadian nationals. Thanks for sharing

Only for Canadians or permanent residents who are covered by provincial healthcare.
Sorry.

 

[LeavingEarly]

Only for Canadians or permanent residents who are covered by provincial healthcare.
Sorry.

If the USA had this program I would apply

 

[Cathy Ames]

Assisted suicide available for all Canadians in 2023. Why is this not available in the USA?

At least partly because there is money to be made off of other people's suffering.

 

[Lafayette1778]

Only for Canadians or permanent residents who are covered by provincial healthcare.
Sorry.

Time to become Canadian.

 

[gottablast888]

not everyone that is mentally ill that applies will get accepted. they will put u on the meds n therapy merrygoround for years if you havent been on it already before they deem you treatment resistant. diy ctb is still the best option for most

 

[Al Cappella]

Time to become Canadian.

We're very picky—bring gifts…

 

[Lullaby]

This would never happen in the US. They make you go through hell if you're just trying to get on disability.

They don't care for anyone whose struggling mentally and trying to get better, mental health programs have horrible and next to no funding to begin with. So I can't see them trying to assist anyone who's unfortunately at a much lower point.

You would think this would be incredibly important stuff to look at and care about, but it's not and it's sucks.

 

[downndone2]

I misread the initial article - it IS now legal in Canada. I'm going to research qualifying criteria and see if US citizens are also able to qualify.

More info- (from a source that isn't exactly excited about this lol)

First, Do No Harm: New Canadian Law Allows for Assisted Suicide for Patients with Psychiatric Disorders

www.psychiatrictimes.com

I think I read somewhere it is only open to Canadian citizens that are part of their medical program. I bet theyll be a vetting process for sure when it comes to "sound mind"

 

[Alex6216]

To be fair, guns are a thing you can get in the USA so americans sort of have assisted suicide. Sure it could be messy but if you put your head in a bag, use a .45 pistol or something and cover your room with sheets it wont be messy

 

[wljourney]

It won't be easy to qualify.
Rules are put in place by March 2023 that will require proof not only that a patient is "suffering irremediably" but also that all treatment options have been tried.

Anyone who hasn't gone through years of meds and therapies won't be eligible.

They are also looking into rules to exclude people with depression, since their decision to want to die is considered "irrational" and due to the illness itself (as in depression causing suicidality).

Requirements will likely be similar to what is now in place in Benelux countries.

And then there are simply not enough doctors who are willing to even assess MAID applicants.

Canada will soon offer doctor-assisted death to the mentally ill. Who should be eligible?

Canada is still determining who should be eligible for MAID for mental illness, but some experts say it could become the most permissive jurisdiction in the…

nationalpost.com

 

[DyingMiND]

It won't be easy to qualify.
Rules are put in place by March 2023 that will require proof not only that a patient is "suffering irremediably" but also that all treatment options have been tried.

Anyone who hasn't gone through years of meds and therapies won't be eligible.

They are also looking into rules to exclude people with depression, since their decision to want to die is considered "irrational" and due to the illness itself (as in depression causing suicidality).

Requirements will likely be similar to what is now in place in Benelux countries.

And then there are simply not enough doctors who are willing to even assess MAID applicants.

Canada will soon offer doctor-assisted death to the mentally ill. Who should be eligible?

Canada is still determining who should be eligible for MAID for mental illness, but some experts say it could become the most permissive jurisdiction in the…

nationalpost.com

I do hate all the specific rules and regulations surrounding maid services in Canada. There are so many Ts to cross and I's to dot. What frustrates me the most is how others who don't share your decision not to want to live may jeopardize getting proper access to MAID.

 

[tanglyy]

To be fair, guns are a thing you can get in the USA so americans sort of have assisted suicide. Sure it could be messy but if you put your head in a bag, use a .45 pistol or something and cover your room with sheets it wont be messy

depends on if you've been institutionalized at a psych ward, they can waive your right to buy one.

 

[DyingMiND]

depends on if you've been institutionalized at a psych ward, they can waive your right to buy one.

Access to guns in Canada is not impossible, just more difficult than the US. Too many regulations once again! Also, for individuals without firearm training, that could mean blowing their head off but still surviving albeit without half of their face/head. Of course that can also happen to those with training.

 

[Alex6216]

mean blowing their head off but still surviving albeit without half of their face/head. Of course that can also happen to those with training.

That only happens if you shoot yourself from the chin like in movies, to actually die via a gun you need to put the gun up to your brainstem

If you use .45 acp or greater your chance of surviving a bullet to the brain stem is 1%, you're better off wining the lottery

 

[outrider567]

i guess its time to become Canadian

Too cold :) Winters too long

It won't be easy to qualify.
Rules are put in place by March 2023 that will require proof not only that a patient is "suffering irremediably" but also that all treatment options have been tried.

Anyone who hasn't gone through years of meds and therapies won't be eligible.

They are also looking into rules to exclude people with depression, since their decision to want to die is considered "irrational" and due to the illness itself (as in depression causing suicidality).

Requirements will likely be similar to what is now in place in Benelux countries.

And then there are simply not enough doctors who are willing to even assess MAID applicants.

Canada will soon offer doctor-assisted death to the mentally ill. Who should be eligible?

Canada is still determining who should be eligible for MAID for mental illness, but some experts say it could become the most permissive jurisdiction in the…

nationalpost.com

Yep, its not gonna be easy to qualify and actually get it done

 

[Funeralprincess]

Assisted suicide available for all Canadians in 2023. Why is this not available in the USA?

Canadian Senate passes bill broadening access to medically assisted death

Canada's Senate on Wednesday passed a bill expanding the scope of medically assisted death, which would make the option accessible to people with a serious medical condition but whose death is not considered imminent.

www.reuters.com

Because the USA makes too much money off of suicidal people. The cash out for locking up a person for being suicidal, having failed attempts, then shoving medications and therapy down their throat is astronomical. If america allowed assisted suicide for mentally ill people, they'd lose a lot of profits in forcing the severely mentally ill to do treatments that don't work over and over again.

 

[wanttodie]

good to know as im in Canada

 

[art355]

I do hate all the specific rules and regulations surrounding maid services in Canada. There are so many Ts to cross and I's to dot. What frustrates me the most is how others who don't share your decision not to want to live may jeopardize getting proper access to MAID.

I think it will get easier over time. Just like at first a panel of doctors was required to allow abortion and now it's not required.

 

[Slimetae]

Money

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I read a while ago that they're trying to get it legalized in Oregon but that was supposed to happen this year so no idea if that's gonna be a thing.