Can you imagine non existence?

[AngelGirl]

What I'm scared about the most is having no consciousness for the entirety of the time. Does it scare any of you as well?
Having no consciousness
Having no "I"

No matter what I try to convince myself that it's fine, I'm so scared of absolute nothingness.

You never open your eyes again. You have so "senses"

And you have no consciousness and you will never regain one. Never open your eyes again as another life form.
The end of everything. Even after billions of years, or the end of the world, "I" will not exist.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

I am only scared of the process of actual dying, not the aftermath.

 

[AngelGirl]

I am only scared of the process of actual dying, not the aftermath.

Because of pain?

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Because of pain?

Yes. And I am scared that I would ask for help.

 

[waived]

Sometimes it can be easy to get carried away with the fear of unknown things like this and it makes life suck but something that gives me comfort is watching and reading stuff about history. All the people from all the different eras and places and backgrounds and their experiences of life down to the minutia. I realize that I'm not alone in what I've experienced and that my experience of it sort of validates the experience of the billions of people who are no longer here. "I" isn't all that unique. You are not aware of nothing and you are not conscious of unconsciousness.

 

[AngelGirl]

Yes. And I am scared that I would ask for help.

Interesting. Personally I'm not scared of pain at all. I think it's something you just have to endure and I think I'll just go with it. If I ever call 911 I think it would be because I will remain sane until I faint and be afraid of death. So I'm actually kind of worried about that.

 

[Umbrellaterm]

Yes. And I am scared that I would ask for help.

Why is it scary to ask for help?
Just make sure you will not be interrupted.

 

[AngelGirl]

Sometimes it can be easy to get carried away with the fear of unknown things like this and it makes life suck but something that gives me comfort is watching and reading stuff about history. All the people from all the different eras and places and backgrounds and their experiences of life down to the minutia. I realize that I'm not alone in what I've experienced and that my experience of it sort of validates the experience of the billions of people who are no longer here. "I" isn't all that unique. You are not aware of nothing and you are not conscious of unconsciousness.

I find your perspective very interesting that you see your death as something bigger than just you alone, although your perspective is not relatable to me at a personal level.
Do you mind telling me what exactly you are referring to when you said you are not alone in what you have experienced?

Why is it scary to ask for help?
Just make sure you will not be interrupted.

If you use SN for example, you will remain sane for at least 40 minutes after drinking it. I think there's a good chance that you call 911 in that time frame for many reasons. And a lot of people do call 911 during that time so I don't think it's that easy to just sit there and wait until you lose consciousness. If you have iron will, then maybe.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Why is it scary to ask for help?
Just make sure you will not be interrupted.

Because if I asked for help and ended up in a hospital, I'd probably lose my job, and if not, I'd be ostracized when people find out why I was on a sick leave. I live with other people, so the probability of being interrupted is high.

 

[Umbrellaterm]

Because if I asked for help and ended up in a hospital, I'd probably lose my job, and if not, I'd be ostracized when people find out why I was on a sick leave. I live with other people, so the probability of being interrupted is high.

Rent a hotel?

Do it deep in the woods?

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Rent a hotel?

Do it deep in the woods?

I am not an outdoors-y type. Hotel might be an option.

 

[waived]

Do you mind telling me what exactly you are referring to when you said you are not alone in what you have experienced?

Not everyone experiences life in the same way but there are a lot of others who do experience it in similar ways, and a lot of others who did and are no longer alive. "I" isn't all that unique (imo) even when discussing the minutia of things like the most beautiful summer sunset you've ever experienced, or whatever else that arguably makes up our lived experiences across many places and times, so I don't get an extra anxiety over it. It makes me feel calmer and helps me sleep at night knowing that there is nothing special about "I" and that many before me and many after me have and will experience the same things.

 

[AngelGirl]

Not everyone experiences life in the same way but there are a lot of others who do experience it in similar ways, and a lot of others who did and are no longer alive. "I" isn't all that unique (imo) even when discussing the minutia of things like the most beautiful summer sunset you've ever experienced, or whatever else that arguably makes up our lived experiences across many places and times, so I don't get an extra anxiety over it. It makes me feel calmer and helps me sleep at night knowing that there is nothing special about "I" and that many before me and many after me have and will experience the same things.

Interesting. I personally hold the exact opposite perspective about life. I personally feel that "I" is the center of the universe and the universe, whether it's people or things, is only there to be interpreted subjectively through one's own senses. So a drastically different perspective from yours.
Then how does it make you feel not so bad about dying? Because many other people also suffered like you did and many others also killed themselves, if I'm understanding you correctly?
Then I kind of get what you are saying. Hearing about people commiting suicide does make it feel easier to me.

 

[sadworld]

I don't have a problem with that. I don't want to exist so that's fine.

 

[waived]

Interesting. I personally hold the exact opposite perspective about life. I personally feel that "I" is the center of the universe and the universe, whether it's people or things, is only there to be interpreted subjectively through one's own senses.

I'm not sure there's a contradiction. It's the same universe being experienced by the same species with the same senses on the same planet across various periods of time. The immediate individual does to not inherently experience the world subjectively as a catastrophic alienation from other's experiences because our species wouldn't exist if that's how things worked. We are a social species it is how we have survived, despite the world. It is by no means homogeneous across us all but there are a lot of others who have, and who do share a similar enough subjective experience to make an "I" less relevant than the big lonely thing in the universe. I understand I because of my voluntary association with other I's and their subjective experience of the universe and I understand I because of the tension between myself and involuntary associations. History of all I's is calming because these associations existed then and they will continue to so basically watching old movies, historical stuff, reading about it puts the subjective experiences of "I" into perspective.

So a drastically different perspective from yours.
Then how does it make you feel not so bad about dying? Because many other people also suffered like you did and many others also killed themselves, if I'm understanding you correctly?
Then I kind of get what you are saying. Hearing about people commiting suicide does make it feel easier to me.

I was responding to your thread title "can you imagine non existence" and "can you imagine no 'I'", and "no consciousness".

 

[woxihuanni]

The brain is incapable of understanding its own death, so there is the scary and misguided impression that nothingness is something you will 'experience'. You won't experience any more things. You won't be there to mourn yourself.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

No.
Edit: obviously.

 

[AngelGirl]

I'm quite fascinated about how no one on this forum besides me seems to be afraid of death. Fear of death is something ingrained in your DNA and in all life forms. Yet it is so uncommon here?
Wanting to end a miserable life is one thing but fear of death is another.
I'm just honestly quite surprised.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

I'm quite fascinated about how no one on this forum besides me seems to be afraid of death. Fear of death is something ingrained in your DNA and in all life forms. Yet it is so uncommon here?
Wanting to end a miserable life is one thing but fear of death is another.
I'm just honestly quite surprised.

Oh no, everyone on this forum is afraid of death. If they weren't, most of the posts wouldn't have been posted. Anyone that gives the impression that they don't fear death is almost certainly a delusional fool.

 

[Lupgevif]

If you have no conscience, you won't notice you don't have a conscience.

 

[greebo6]

Utter 'nothingness'/ 'non existence' (no pain ,no loneliness ,no depression ,anxiety ,fear ,ugliness, etc...) sounds good to me .

 

[AngelGirl]

The brain is incapable of understanding its own death, so there is the scary and misguided impression that nothingness is something you will 'experience'. You won't experience any more things. You won't be there to mourn yourself.

I don't think it's something you experience. Honestly if it was something I get to experience cause I had "consciousness" I would rather be happy because it's like being a ghost or a spirit so that would be interesting to me honestly. As in the bible where God existed in absolute nothingness in the beginning.
Once you are dead it's all over. So I'm not worried about being worried in the future once I'm dead but now as a living person I'm aftaid of becoming nonexistence. Honestly I don't know if I'm explaining what I mean by it properly. And it's eternal. When I think about the time of the universe and think about the beginning and the end, it feels quite scary to me.
I'm not talking about suicide but death in general.
You were dead for more then 4.6 billion years and you will be dead for even longer after living at most 100 years. You only exist for a very short period of time but you will not exist most of the time and there's no existence and consciousness. No "I".

 

[Surgeon]

I have experienced this without death and i don't think it should be scary. It's a beautiful thing.
Breaking down the sense of self is not what scares me.
Personally i am happy to backflip into the unknown. could be fun.

 

[AngelGirl]

Oh no, everyone on this forum is afraid of death. If they weren't, most of the posts wouldn't have been posted. Anyone that gives the impression that they don't fear death is almost certainly a delusional fool.

Honestly that's what I'm thinking. If you were truely not afraid of death at all how are they still alive being on a forum like this posting hundreds ans thousands of posts abour how bad they want to die. I'm just a bit disappointed that the vast majority of people here are unwilling to talk about fear of death of which is the only one reason I can't end my life yet.

 

[Lordsudbury]

Honestly that's what I'm thinking. If you were truely not afraid of death at all how are they still alive being on a forum like this posting hundreds ans thousands of posts abour how bad they want to die. I'm just a bit disappointed that the vast majority of people here are unwilling to talk about fear of death of which is the only one reason I can't end my life yet.

I'm totally with you. The end of the human experience, never being you ever again. It's a hard pill to swallow and think about.

 

[Surgeon]

Honestly that's what I'm thinking. If you were truely not afraid of death at all how are they still alive being on a forum like this posting hundreds ans thousands of posts abour how bad they want to die. I'm just a bit disappointed that the vast majority of people here are unwilling to talk about fear of death of which is the only one reason I can't end my life yet.

Not everyone here is planning to CTB.
Some have recovered, some are curious, some are roleplaying, some are malicious, some want to make money etc

Survival instinct is a real thing but generally i don't think people want to die, especially if they're posting walls of text and seeking help/attention (which is by no means a bad thing)
There is plenty of resources for those who wish to do it without speaking to do it.

Men in my country generally just do it. It's a problem here. It would be alot cooler if they spoke out about it before hand even on a forum like this, knowing somebody would listen to them so i try not to judge anyones reasons for posting here but if you want to die, you will die. I agree.
There is plenty of ways to fool your mind if that really is your block. Others subconsciously find a need to stay for their pets or whatever, we come up with a reason it seems.

sorry for babble

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Honestly that's what I'm thinking. If you were truely not afraid of death at all how are they still alive being on a forum like this posting hundreds ans thousands of posts abour how bad they want to die. I'm just a bit disappointed that the vast majority of people here are unwilling to talk about fear of death of which is the only one reason I can't end my life yet.

If you are not afraid of death, then you are either enlightened to the point where you have ascended beyond the point where any human interaction can benefit you in any way...or you are indeed a delusional fool. Death comes to us all without exception. The vast majority of us suffer as we die. If you don't fear that...then you are really in the wrong place as no amount of input will be of relevance to you.

However, many stay here for support. To give and receive that support from the only people who have a chance of understanding. Most come here to die. Some stay here to try and live. That's the funny thing about choice: it cuts both ways.

 

[Weary Soul]

What I'm scared about the most is having no consciousness for the entirety of the time. Does it scare any of you as well?
Having no consciousness
Having no "I"

No matter what I try to convince myself that it's fine, I'm so scared of absolute nothingness.

You never open your eyes again. You have so "senses"

And you have no consciousness and you will never regain one. Never open your eyes again as another life form.
The end of everything. Even after billions of years, or the end of the world, "I" will not exist.

I am frightened of the process of dying; however, I am not scared of death and/or not existing/having no conscious.

I have had many surgeries and at one point was comatose. I had no consciousness in these states - "I" was not there to fear or feel anything and I only remembered what it was like once "I" was brought back.

*hugs to you*

 

[Kat!]

Our brains aren't made to understand what this is like. Every time you think of it you feel weird, we all feel that.

The end is the end, it's hard to explain. Don't be afraid, because you won't be once you die.

"I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it." ― Mark Twain

 

[Gnip]

By undergoing ECT several times in 2014 and 2015, I experienced going under anesthesia routinely. The first few times I went under with the thought I might never wake up. Sine then, I imagine that's what non existence is like, that I simply do not wake up.

I had no thoughts or any awareness at all when I was under anesthesia. I went under, then I was usually seemingly abruptly awake again. (Actually, going under is the best thing about anesthesia, waking up is the most disappointing.)