Can you actually stay forever in the psychiatric hospital?

[Baskol1]

Can you actually stay forever in the psychiatric hospital for an suicide attempt? Or is that not possible? Can you actually stay for years in a psychiatric hospital after a failed suicide attempt? Or what is the longest you can stay if youre not a danger for others? Because staying forever there, or staying for years in the psychiatric hospital would be quite horrible. What was the longest time you stayed in a psychiatric hospital?

 

[Kirkscoobz]

The only way I could anyone staying there all the time would be to commit a crime to which you were declared insane / mad and yo would then be sent to a secure hospital at her Majesty's pleasure until yo are declared fit to re enter society.

 

[Baskol1]

The only way I could anyone staying there all the time would be to commit a crime to which you were declared insane / mad and yo would then be sent to a secure hospital at her Majesty's pleasure until yo are declared fit to re enter society.

But not because of suicide attempts?

 

[itsallover]

I stayed for a few months in a state hospital. I met people there who were there for twenty years and over. Seemed quite normal but who knows what the hell was going in their heads. So yes you can be committed to a mental hospital for a long ass fucking time. If you walk around and act crazy all day they'll keep you in a regular psych ward for a few months and then ship you off to the state ones where everything is based on how they think you are doing. Be careful about state hospitals though because where I was they took inmates with violent behaviors there before they released them once their sentence was up and I had to fight quite a few times for stupid things like cigarettes lol.

 

[Baskol1]

I stayed for a few months in a state hospital. I met people there who were there for twenty years and over. Seemed quite normal but who knows what the hell was going in their heads. So yes you can be committed to a mental hospital for a long ass fucking time. If you walk around and act crazy all day they'll keep you in a regular psych ward for a few months and then ship you off to the state ones where everything is based on how they think you are doing. Be careful about state hospitals though because where I was they took inmates with violent behaviors there before they released them once their sentence was up and I had to fight quite a few times for stupid things like cigarettes lol.

Would be cheaper to execute them.

 

[a.h]

I would assume that if a person who haven't done a serious crime is locked up and he/she looses freedom, privacy and his/her whole life to others and is filled with meds that make them physically and mentally suffer (people have also said here etc. that they were taken off cold turkey from their medicine which cause severe withdrawal and could kill) the effect is same or worse as being kidnapped and locked up to a room. So I believe that the effect of it can make people loose their minds as long as they are there or at least cause panic, anxiety, insomnia, difficulty to think/speak etc. which the docs can list as symptoms of a mental disease. If they weren't given meds they have been taking daily they get withdrawal symptoms and get very sick and that can be seen as symptoms of serious mental disease also. I have heard many saying they got PTSD from it. I would personally rather be kidnapped for ransom etc. than be locked up to psych ward.

I think that to get out one should trust that they will get out and act fine but admit something like depression because otherwise they can be diagnosed with serious mental illness where they think they are fine even they are not.

I think that cops shouldn't be allowed to lock up anyone if they don't harm others.

Why aren't drug addicts using strong drugs and heavy drinkers locked up to mental institution because they are slowly killing themselves. Everyone knows they will most likely die to it.

I stayed for a few months in a state hospital. I met people there who were there for twenty years and over. Seemed quite normal but who knows what the hell was going in their heads. So yes you can be committed to a mental hospital for a long ass fucking time. If you walk around and act crazy all day they'll keep you in a regular psych ward for a few months and then ship you off to the state ones where everything is based on how they think you are doing. Be careful about state hospitals though because where I was they took inmates with violent behaviors there before they released them once their sentence was up and I had to fight quite a few times for stupid things like cigarettes lol.

 

[Rocksandsand]

I think this really depends on where you are from, because different jurisdictions have different rules about how long they can keep people in facilities and on what terms

 

[k3v3r]

If you keep on being a danger to yourself, they can keep you for a very long time. I've had multiple suicide attempts in the hospital, and i'm in for my 6th month, and it doesn't look like i'm gonna be discharged anytime soon

Edit: And for people wondering, yes i'm allowed my computer and phone in here (even though it's a high security unit)

 

[Mbound]

If you keep on being a danger to yourself, they can keep you for a very long time. I've had multiple suicide attempts in the hospital, and i'm in for my 6th month, and it doesn't look like i'm gonna be discharged anytime soon

Edit: And for people wondering, yes i'm allowed my computer and phone in here (even though it's a high security unit)

That's awful. Have they said why they're keeping you so long? I think around me these places are so overcrowded they try to get people out quickly because they just don't have the space, at least that's what people I've known who have gone have told me.

 

[k3v3r]

That's awful. Have they said why they're keeping you so long? I think around me these places are so overcrowded they try to get people out quickly because they just don't have the space, at least that's what people I've known who have gone have told me.

because i keep trying to ctb impulsively and i self harm

 

[Baskol1]

because i keep trying to ctb impulsively and i self harm

You should stop that.

 

[Letmego. Please]

No not in the Uk, we have long stay units for people who are a danger to others, but other than sectioning you for 6mths, which for the most part round here they discharge you off the section long before the 6mths has ended, unless you are like the person above who continues to attempt & self harm, in which case i would from experience suggest you stop if you wanna be let free. It (with no offence intended to the person who posted, or intended to reflect your circumstances) tends to be younger female punters with a personality disorder diagnosis who's moods can change from one second to the next, that then leaves the people who legally have an obligation to keep a vulnerable person safe with a dilemma of do we risk it or not.

The longest i have spent locked up was back in 1992 when asylums were still up an running and that lasted for just over 2 whole years.
In the more modern era the longest was 9mths back in 06 (they now have half the number of bed locally now)

So no @Baskol1 you don't have to worry about them keeping you for a year or more from the information you have provided.

 

[Baskol1]

No not in the Uk, we have long stay units for people who are a danger to others, but other than sectioning you for 6mths, which for the most part round here they discharge you off the section long before the 6mths has ended, unless you are like the person above who continues to attempt & self harm, in which case i would from experience suggest you stop if you wanna be let free. It (with no offence intended to the person who posted, or intended to reflect your circumstances) tends to be younger female punters with a personality disorder diagnosis who's moods can change from one second to the next, that then leaves the people who legally have an obligation to keep a vulnerable person safe with a dilemma of do we risk it or not.

The longest i have spent locked up was back in 1992 when asylums were still up an running and that lasted for just over 2 whole years.
In the more modern era the longest was 9mths back in 06 (they now have half the number of bed locally now)

So no @Baskol1 you don't have to worry about them keeping you for a year or more from the information you have provided.

I guess old asylums were worse, right? Or maybe not?

 

[k3v3r]

You should stop that.

if it was that easy i would have done it...

 

[Shamana]

Depends on the country. But if you are in hospital and keep attempting suicide and threatening suicide they have legal grounds to hold you as long as you pose a danger to yourself.

 

[Letmego. Please]

I guess old asylums were worse, right? Or maybe not?

They were certainly different, way, way worse in so many ways, some of the people i met in there were in their 70's having been put there by their families for various now stupid reasons, like anxiety or god forbid getting pregnant before marriage, or just plain depression that 40/50yrs of being pumped with old style anti psychotic meds now met they looked every inch like a nutter even though their only symptoms were the side effects of the meds. It was hard getting to know them as a 21yr old & imagining the life they had led in this place cut off for the outside world completely for their entire adult lives, that was some heavy shit.

The place was massive, in it's heyday it had it's own farm, orchard, industrial gardening set up, the place was a self sufficient world away from the world as envisioned by the victorian do-gooders who built it, had its own theatre, cafe on the green, surreal really when i think back on it.

As a 21yr old who could still run it was an amazing place with which to play merry hell on the staff that were keeping me there again my will, but thats a whole other story lol

What was better about it isn't anything that couldn't have been recreated in the units that replaced it. i.e enough staff that gave a toss, enough beds to cover the many hundreds that were lost, actually having groups, things to help pass the time of day, and actual support from staff that wanted to find a way to help even if you didn't think there was any way.
I dunno, almost all the staff I've met who have cared have long since left the profession out of disillusionment.

It was 2 years of hell, but there was also a lot of fun & laughter mixed in. And just to carry on being a pain in their arse before i left the last time (moved out of area) i umm relocated & completed my collection of every ward sigh i had been locked up in. (they were already used to visiting me to be greeted by their ward sigh on my wall) so they really didn't want me to complete my set, Hahaha got ya, and they are still hanging on my walls.

 

[Baskol1]

They were certainly different, way, way worse in so many ways, some of the people i met in there were in their 70's having been put there by their families for various now stupid reasons, like anxiety or god forbid getting pregnant before marriage, or just plain depression that 40/50yrs of being pumped with old style anti psychotic meds now met they looked every inch like a nutter even though their only symptoms were the side effects of the meds. It was hard getting to know them as a 21yr old & imagining the life they had led in this place cut off for the outside world completely for their entire adult lives, that was some heavy shit.

The place was massive, in it's heyday it had it's own farm, orchard, industrial gardening set up, the place was a self sufficient world away from the world as envisioned by the victorian do-gooders who built it, had its own theatre, cafe on the green, surreal really when i think back on it.

As a 21yr old who could still run it was an amazing place with which to play merry hell on the staff that were keeping me there again my will, but thats a whole other story lol

What was better about it isn't anything that couldn't have been recreated in the units that replaced it. i.e enough staff that gave a toss, enough beds to cover the many hundreds that were lost, actually having groups, things to help pass the time of day, and actual support from staff that wanted to find a way to help even if you didn't think there was any way.
I dunno, almost all the staff I've met who have cared have long since left the profession out of disillusionment.

It was 2 years of hell, but there was also a lot of fun & laughter mixed in. And just to carry on being a pain in their arse before i left the last time (moved out of area) i umm relocated & completed my collection of every ward sigh i had been locked up in. (they were already used to visiting me to be greeted by their ward sigh on my wall) so they really didn't want me to complete my set, Hahaha got ya, and they are still hanging on my walls.

i was 1 month in the psychiatric hospital.

They were certainly different, way, way worse in so many ways, some of the people i met in there were in their 70's having been put there by their families for various now stupid reasons, like anxiety or god forbid getting pregnant before marriage, or just plain depression that 40/50yrs of being pumped with old style anti psychotic meds now met they looked every inch like a nutter even though their only symptoms were the side effects of the meds. It was hard getting to know them as a 21yr old & imagining the life they had led in this place cut off for the outside world completely for their entire adult lives, that was some heavy shit.

The place was massive, in it's heyday it had it's own farm, orchard, industrial gardening set up, the place was a self sufficient world away from the world as envisioned by the victorian do-gooders who built it, had its own theatre, cafe on the green, surreal really when i think back on it.

As a 21yr old who could still run it was an amazing place with which to play merry hell on the staff that were keeping me there again my will, but thats a whole other story lol

What was better about it isn't anything that couldn't have been recreated in the units that replaced it. i.e enough staff that gave a toss, enough beds to cover the many hundreds that were lost, actually having groups, things to help pass the time of day, and actual support from staff that wanted to find a way to help even if you didn't think there was any way.
I dunno, almost all the staff I've met who have cared have long since left the profession out of disillusionment.

It was 2 years of hell, but there was also a lot of fun & laughter mixed in. And just to carry on being a pain in their arse before i left the last time (moved out of area) i umm relocated & completed my collection of every ward sigh i had been locked up in. (they were already used to visiting me to be greeted by their ward sigh on my wall) so they really didn't want me to complete my set, Hahaha got ya, and they are still hanging on my walls.

Still, they were actually an improvement from before, because the mentally ill were simply chained.

 

[BridgeJumper]

I have a friend who suffers from severe depression with psychosis and anorexia, she is currently so underweirght she risks organ failure and she has been kept in the mental ward for 2 years now because shes not improving.
My longest stays were about 3 months. Some people stay over 4 - 5 months but its rare.
Apparently in old psych wards you stayed as long as during an uk 'section' - 6 months no matter what you did to land there. Now they mostly discharge people after 1 - 1,5 a month assuming you dont behave in a way that causes them to think youre a danger to yourself or to others.

 

[Baskol1]

I have a friend who suffers from severe depression with psychosis and anorexia, she is currently so underweirght she risks organ failure and she has been kept in the mental ward for 2 years now because shes not improving.
My longest stays were about 3 months. Some people stay over 4 - 5 months but its rare.
Apparently in old psych wards you stayed as long as during an uk 'section' - 6 months no matter what you did to land there. Now they mostly discharge people after 1 - 1,5 a month assuming you dont behave in a way that causes them to think youre a danger to yourself or to others.

2 years is relatively long.