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Stargazer100

no nonsense
May 25, 2021
144
Say you are getting ready to commit suicide and you've just dissolved your SN in water. But somehow you want or need to back out. Can the SN be recovered by simply heating the water and evaporating it? Is the SN stable enough? Are there any better ways to extract it from water?
 
Lulzacruel

Lulzacruel

Specialist
Jun 13, 2023
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SN is almost always soluble, you could try re-crystalization
 
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Crono

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Jun 1, 2023
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When the water is cold, the crystals are less soluble. This also happens with salt, sugar, etc.. just put the water in the refrigerator or freezer. But I think it's better to discard the SN and use another one if you're going to try again.
 
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Stargazer100

no nonsense
May 25, 2021
144
Thanks, but those are answers I could have guessed. Yes I could try, yes it would be best to just another batch, but what I am asking is what are the odds the SN will lose its purify through the process, especially if I heat the solution to evaporate water.
 
befree

befree

Time to do more enjoyable things _____Goodbye_____
Mar 22, 2022
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I doubt that crystallization is of any use. When you dissolved the SN, it was in contact with oxygen, and water also contains oxygen. The result would probably be pure nitrate.
 
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Stargazer100

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May 25, 2021
144
Could one simply heat the resulting crystals so that if any sodium natrate has formed it will become sodium nitrite due to thermal decomposition?

If this can be done how would it be done? How pure would the resulting sofium nitrite likely be?
 
befree

befree

Time to do more enjoyable things _____Goodbye_____
Mar 22, 2022
2,585
Could one simply heat the resulting crystals so that if any sodium natrate has formed it will become sodium nitrite due to thermal decomposition?

If this can be done how would it be done? How pure would the resulting sofium nitrite likely be?
No.

I don´t understand the sense of this question. If you have dissolved SN in water, I had already given you an answer. If you have dissolved the SN in water and you don´t want to use it for CTB, then just order a new SN.

I also don´t recommend experimenting with heat, because SN is explosive. ‼️
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
12,810
Actually there is a slow reaction with the surrounding air but unless there is a lot of heat involved this reaction is very slow, so you could put the solution in a dry cool place and wait until the water is evaporated slowly. The SN should still be fine. But anyway I do not recommend experimenting with this as the case here may be CTB and there is nothing to be experimented about it because it's a crucial decision and there is no room for experiments to avoide failures.

I don't understand why someone wants to experiment in such a cruicial situation.
 
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Stargazer100

no nonsense
May 25, 2021
144
People do back out, it happens, and why waste hard to obtain SN if there is a way to store it again?
There has to be hard knowlege (calculus) on what method will preserve a high quality SN when seperating it from water.
 
ToTheTwillight

ToTheTwillight

Experienced
May 19, 2023
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You probably don't have any reserved SN for the future or a very limited amount, and that's why you inquiring about it to see if you can somehow still not put that SN to waste, right?
 
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Stargazer100

no nonsense
May 25, 2021
144
Don't waste your time with your guesses about how I am prepared. I am not here to discuss my personal preperations, I am asking how I and others could save some SN if something goes unexpected during a suicide attempt. I'm looking for an intelligent discussion about how that could be done and if the resulting SN is worth it.

Looking for someone with knowledge if chemistry to discuss facts about how dissoving and recrystalization can be preformed with minimal losses, and what amount of loss to theoretically expect.
 

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