it's an onion and I hope this isn't sourcing, but find him at the place he's usually at and it should list an address. N seems expensive but I've been talking to him and he says almost 100% of orders land, often after custom checks, so his stealth is great or he's lying. With his record I have no reason to believe the latter
He does seem reliable according to the reviews. I'm very tempted by a gold standard death from him. My biggest worry is wasting it somehow.
Same but I think it'll be my last resort, I'll just max out my credit and hope! He does seem legit and sells a whole load of RCs, his feedback is good and I think he promises a reship (to a diff addy obviously) so I think he looks good. I'm just waiting and saving lol
Busdriver
Mage
- Feb 11, 2020
- 513
Thanks for mentioning. So after customs checks it goes to buyer. So customs investigate package and then allow sending to buyer? Shouldn't they become angry and stuff?
Just because they check the package, that doesn't mean they necessarily find anything. Some of these darknet dealers have pretty creative stealth methods where they can get their product through a customs check.
I've had a lot of packages arrive from sus countries, searched and found nothing, even I had to root around for like 10 mins. Not saying this is the case with c but his packs are getting through somehow, vendors often have amazing stealth and with all the other RCs he's shipping in kilo amounts I would not be surprised if he had it together
Busdriver
Mage
- Feb 11, 2020
- 513
But this means there is almost a 100% chance you won't get a visit by LE then, right?
A lot of packages, wow, nice, but did these packages contain forbidden substances (just like N)?
Regarding what C said: did he literally mean if a package is investigated by customs, it still gets through?
I yearn for N, sorry for sounding so paranoid.
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I wouldn't say 100% as that's what c said when I asked about packs landing, but he also offers to reship, so.....idk
It wasn't C who said that the package was opened and got through customs, it was me and a few others on dreddit (goto darkfail, find dread, search his vendorname)
Yes one was a lb of weed from canada in a vacuum pack, inside a kleenex box. My most recent orders haven't smelt like much (I did get H from Germany last month actually, came through fine no searches[yeah I relapsed])
I have also have several other packages arrive, get searched and still get through. My point is, this guys either got stealth like my other vendors (incredibly good) or he and others are lying about it. I just doubt that's true, if word got out that his orders get seized its bad for business. Most of his profits don't come from N but other RCs, which seem to arrive just fine.
I get your paranoia, I had it when I started on the DN but it passes, is it possible to send a test order of something cheap to a friends house? That'd be a good way of testing for sure lol
edit: the phenobarbs I tried to OD on were literally spilling out the cardboard envelope and the mail guy just said "Hope nothing was lost sorry we taped it up best we could". Similar thing with clonidine, soma and tramadol, literally falling out the pack. Mail guy just gave me a head-hod and we smiled at each other, nothing happened. I've got 3 'love letters' basically saying "your drugs are seized if your stupid enough to come get em we'll see what happens". Nothing has ever happened.
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Busdriver
Mage
- Feb 11, 2020
- 513
Good to read. So you never got LE to visit you?
I thought love letters contains message like: "your drugs are seized and we won't take legal steps. Please don't this again or this will have legal consequences". I got this from a DN bible lingering somewhere on SS. But you had a message like "you can come get it, but that would not be smart". Where would you have to get it.. customs?
Apart from the weed, it seems you ordered for above 30g of the substances. Do you think phenobarb, tramadol, clonidine were checked by customs and they still let it through, because of terrific stealth? You cannot know that, I think..
If they let phenobarb pass, they would let N pass too then..
I can't send to a friend's place, they would give me a full ban LOL
Oh no it was the same as in the dnm bible, basically come claim it or stop doing this, I just assumed the "that wouldn't be smart" part. I did it multiple times after though to the same address, I guess they forgot or didn't record it but I have 3 now! Yeah same place they gave me an address and a number to claim it if I wanted. It was labelled as illegal in the bloody letter though. Yes well above 30g of many many substances since 2012ish?
I don't know that they were checked, I know the patterns of packers and a slit in the tape being replaced by other tape, I know if they've looked in it, they never put the right packing material back in etc. And it straight up says on the tracking "Customs check" and sits for nearly a week.
I do believe it coz it took me over ten mins to find the steathier ones, I doubt customs are spending that long on normal packs (smell checked, x-rayed, bomb detectors etc), then it gets to them. Most of the time it doesn't if the post address can be read by a computer anyway. And finally, 25g of powder (N) can be flattened into a plain envelope/postcard/b-day card, these are rarely checked and in the past year (I just checked) I've had 47 intl deliveries arrive of diff size/shape
oh wait, I did get a visit for the tramadol. But I knew it was coming from the tracking info, cleaned house, invited them in for a cup of tea and played it calm. Like a "I'm an honorable man how dare you accuse me!" type of speech, they said it happens all the time and wouldn't bother me any more.
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Busdriver
Mage
- Feb 11, 2020
- 513
Interesting and informative to read, really. You are a true DN veteran!
But you did receive the Tramadol, so LE knew you were 'guilty'. How can you talk yourself out of that?
I think C is a reliable seller.
Although he claimed N to be around 98% (not sure) purity, but test results amount to 65-74% (not sure exact nr), which is still enough to CTB peacefully.
But you did receive the Tramadol, so LE knew you were 'guilty'. How can you talk yourself out of that?
I think C is a reliable seller.
Although he claimed N to be around 98% (not sure) purity, but test results amount to 65-74% (not sure exact nr), which is still enough to CTB peacefully.
You say
"Huh? What are you talking about?"
"Can we come in?"
"Of course, would you like tea/coffee"
"No"
"What's this about then?"
"A large amount of xyz has been seized, you are culpable"
"Huh? What are you talking about? Am I being arrested?"
".......no but we would like to see your devices (pc etc)"
"Sure *gives passes etc, I know everything is clean house*"
*they click on some stuff*
"Do you have a warrant for this?"
"We shouldn't need one just give us a minute"
"I'd like you to leave please"
"okay....*still clicking*"
"now please"
"alright I was just checking sir" *leaves*
"I'd like your name, ID and police station numbers, all of you please. Thank you"
"That really isnt nec-"
"Please, what is your name, the station too. Thanks"
*gives ID*
Never comes back. Foolproof. I live in a small town, I know the police(edit3: literally I know them in person, they're wife used to babysit/childsit me til I was like 11, so he took me on ridealongs and all the cool stuff), they don't want any paperwork either!
edit: yeah from what I can see it's 65%+ pure, I think that's why it's 25g and not 10, not sure tho
edit2: yes my name and address was on the pack, but what does that have to do with me? I asked if anybody had it out for me and would try to set me up, they didn't know how to respond and said they would look into it as they couldn't prove any illegal activity (computers scrubbed, house cleaned of weed etc)
"Huh? What are you talking about?"
"Can we come in?"
"Of course, would you like tea/coffee"
"No"
"What's this about then?"
"A large amount of xyz has been seized, you are culpable"
"Huh? What are you talking about? Am I being arrested?"
".......no but we would like to see your devices (pc etc)"
"Sure *gives passes etc, I know everything is clean house*"
*they click on some stuff*
"Do you have a warrant for this?"
"We shouldn't need one just give us a minute"
"I'd like you to leave please"
"okay....*still clicking*"
"now please"
"alright I was just checking sir" *leaves*
"I'd like your name, ID and police station numbers, all of you please. Thank you"
"That really isnt nec-"
"Please, what is your name, the station too. Thanks"
*gives ID*
Never comes back. Foolproof. I live in a small town, I know the police(edit3: literally I know them in person, they're wife used to babysit/childsit me til I was like 11, so he took me on ridealongs and all the cool stuff), they don't want any paperwork either!
edit: yeah from what I can see it's 65%+ pure, I think that's why it's 25g and not 10, not sure tho
edit2: yes my name and address was on the pack, but what does that have to do with me? I asked if anybody had it out for me and would try to set me up, they didn't know how to respond and said they would look into it as they couldn't prove any illegal activity (computers scrubbed, house cleaned of weed etc)
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C is reliable as it seems
May pack arrived as from others
Purity we can just assume from the labtests of others
Stealth, well if I was custom and i had opened the pack, be sure even an amatuer would ve found it, cause there was no real stealth
But it was well declared, so that it came through
May pack arrived as from others
Purity we can just assume from the labtests of others
Stealth, well if I was custom and i had opened the pack, be sure even an amatuer would ve found it, cause there was no real stealth
But it was well declared, so that it came through
Good info, I figured if his packs are getting through he must be doing something right
rhiino
Arcanist
- May 13, 2020
- 462
Yes, he has his own site. It's all in the Megathread: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/megathread-n-from-c-alternative-n-sources.28554/
Incorrigible77777
I was born human and I'm sorry for that. ——太宰 治
- Jul 9, 2020
- 229
Incorrigible77777
I was born human and I'm sorry for that. ——太宰 治
- Jul 9, 2020
- 229
Incorrigible77777
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- Jul 9, 2020
- 229
Yes I did I said that they don't ship domestically in mainland China as I got responded in e-mail... but I'm still not giving up. I still wanna try to see if there're alternatives buying N with them... As after all they're the probably the most reliable source for N at the moment.
Busdriver
Mage
- Feb 11, 2020
- 513
Thank you for the example of a conversation.
I know now what I am up against. I really cannot have that them entering my house. I thought they would just stand outside and asking to hand over the drugs.
But they didn't ask you for a hand over of drugs? And they didn't search your house?
Unfortunately, I am not friends with LE haha.
Weird thing is I was super confident of ordering Tramadol before yesterday.. to use as pain killer in SN regimen. I would order just 1 package. But you got LE visit because of Tramadol, how much approximately did you order?
They do often stand outside and without a warrant you don't have to let them in, I just prefer it if my house is clean (if I have packs in there or my bongs around I would never invite the police in. It just gives me the "But the police were here just last week and found nothing" excuse lol)
over 100x 150mg pills. I think they were from india actually, just poor stealth I think, vendor dissapeared under a pile of 1 star reviews. He was using a new packer and everyone got fucked. I never saw the pack, I just got a customs letter for 10 grams of illegal 'material' (which I actually got refunded for lol, I love the darknet), if you order it domestically you'll have a way better chance of it arriving, I've never had an issue domestically it's always internationals.
I knew something might happen so cleaned house and luckily I was moving out like 2 weeks later, just missed the police for that one. They already had the drugs, just needed to look at my pc for darknet stuff, pgp keys etc, but since I use TAILS that's on a usb stick inside my microwave there is no trace to find.
I never access the site on my phone and if you comply and be nice they'll find it harder to be a complete dick (offer coffee, appear 'normal' and like you have nothing to hide).
If they do want tea/coffee I would have nuked the usb and used my backup, (buried somewhere, I know I'm paranoid af lmao), since that often means they'll be here a while and searching if they can. Also just ask if you're being arrested and why/what for. My routine of answering any door while on the site is the reboot everything and put the usb (sometimes phone too) in the mic. Answer the door and don't look scared or shocked, look confused and ask if you can help them get the bad guy or whatever works.
Even if they do catch the drugs, they have to also prove you knowingly arranged that to happen, IP no's are spoofed often. TAILS makes it a lot harder on top leaving nothing on the hardrive of whatever pc you use
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Busdriver
Mage
- Feb 11, 2020
- 513
So much useful information!
Thank you.
You say "they already had the drugs, just needed to look at my pc for darknet stuff".
So you didn't have the tramadol, they had it?
Tails is super important, judging from your story.
But after darknet transaction, one should remove all darknet-related stuff on computer, like TOR, possible stored PGP keys, and wallet like Electrum to appear innocent if LE comes over?
Can LE actively look for the drugs in your home? Like checking drawers, closets, under bed? If they find the drugs then you might be busted as your names were on drugs packages intercepted at customs, the reason why LE visits you.
Thank you.
You say "they already had the drugs, just needed to look at my pc for darknet stuff".
So you didn't have the tramadol, they had it?
Tails is super important, judging from your story.
But after darknet transaction, one should remove all darknet-related stuff on computer, like TOR, possible stored PGP keys, and wallet like Electrum to appear innocent if LE comes over?
Can LE actively look for the drugs in your home? Like checking drawers, closets, under bed? If they find the drugs then you might be busted as your names were on drugs packages intercepted at customs, the reason why LE visits you.
I sent you a long reply to your pm.. did you get it? Very quick delivery to A*i* from c
TheEndIsNigh31
Madness is like gravity all you need is a lil push
- Jul 13, 2020
- 65
You have some balls on you lol.
You should start being a seller here in the UK of N id buy and collect it as you seem to have all the luck lol
Yeah they had the tramadol, I thought it'd arrive before moving out but the inspection probably caused a delay. I like Tails tbh it's very user friendly and once you get used to it super convenient too.
It depends on the security risk, if you are importing a load of tramadol poorley packed from india they will have to get a warrant, again if my house is clean I just let them in, if my PC has any tor browser, crypto-wallets or search history related to that it's bad news bears. Otherwise if it's a one time order I wouldn't let them in since they have to have a warrant (in most places)
But once you let them in they do not have to leave, they can make up any story so make sure it's clean before, or just keep em on the doorstep.
I'd say if not using tails, after the transaction is finished scrub everything on the PC, this unfortunately means a whole HDD scrub and re-install of windows. Only if your really worried about it though, they still need a warrant which most judges will not grant on just the basis of your name and addy being on a package, you'll likely just get a letter if it is found (probably won't be).
The issue is for people who may be put in the box of surveillance, most personal users won't have this issue as LE mainly make cases against large fish (buying/selling 1000s of tablets a week/month), your probably a small fish and will just get a warning via mail if at all.
If you do get a 'love letter', I'd (I'm abnormally paranoid remember lol) remove all tor browser, crypto stuff, clear history etc (but there will still be that first thing you searched that you didn't hide (in my case anyway), that can be followed up by subpoenas [unlikely for personal use they will go that far, that for wholesale dealers] to google and lead to tracing). So the only option there is to shread the whole HDD or drill it and mic it (if you wanna be really careful)
Ideally use Tails for this site and dnm's, when searching use duckduckgo, not google. Look at dread not reddit (goto dark fail [ideally the .onion] and find the long dread onion site. Goto /d/darknetmarketnoobs ( I think, just search on dread for noobs or something it should come up).
Never follow any .onion link anyone gives you, (including me, trust no-one) they should all be on darkfail anyway or dread. Dread is Reddit for the DN, very good info place. Darkfail is reliable and checks the sites against their PGP.
I honestly wish I could! It would require 2 other people for proper erm, I forget the word, where you can claim no knowledge of what was really going on.
1 to accept money and launder (they don't know what the money is for), 2 to place orders and trace them (this separates the money from the order and customer), handle refunds, then the 3rd to receive the packages and redistribute. It's 2 more people than I can trust (and even know lol)
edit: I think I'm thinking of 'probable cause', less than 3 require at least 1 to know what's really going on. With all 3 they could all have probable cause of knowing nothing about whats really happening, which would slow and give all 3 a chance to move on. If caught it'd have to be over, probable cause won't work twice.
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Meditation guide
Always was, is, and always shall be.
- Jun 22, 2020
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Busdriver
Mage
- Feb 11, 2020
- 513
This should all be added to the DN Bible!
Very useful.
It sucks that they got your Tramadol.
So you are saying that ordering just 1 time 25g of N (one time order ever) is worth to try, because worst case is you get a love letter only and they leave you alone?
Or can they actually visit you without having sent love letter?
If you get a love letter does this mean they could visit you?
Meditation guide
Always was, is, and always shall be.
- Jun 22, 2020
- 6,089
Tramadol is the one drug every doctor is happy to write me a prescription for and I hate the way it makes me feel. It also does zero for my back pain. I'm always surprised when people seem to like it so much. Why not just ask a doctor for it?
As for drugs from India, the few times I've had prescriptions for drugs that made me sick I checked and they came from India. Even the loratadine (Claritin) for allergies that I got that came from India made my stomach hurt.
What is the reason people want to buy Tramadol this way? I read it's supposed to be like a mild opiate but it sure doesn't feel like one to me. It was very unpleasant for me.
As for drugs from India, the few times I've had prescriptions for drugs that made me sick I checked and they came from India. Even the loratadine (Claritin) for allergies that I got that came from India made my stomach hurt.
What is the reason people want to buy Tramadol this way? I read it's supposed to be like a mild opiate but it sure doesn't feel like one to me. It was very unpleasant for me.
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