Benzo's + alcohol + ???

[Popopo]

Hey there people, I know it is possible (not 100% certain tho) to die from respiratory depression or get into a deep coma even from a high dose of benzo's alone and mixing alcohol into the mix increases those odds. Maybe there are other easily accessible drugs or tools (like a plastic bag over the head and hand restrictions) that increase those odds further. I also know that you can die from benzo withdrawal as well so even if an attempt fails, you might die after taking a huge dose and then not taking anything at all. So why is it that you do hear people die from this while others survive? I wonder why and how it happens. My guess is that most of the problem is that people get found before they die since it will probably take a long time before you are actually dead, but it does seem like a relatively peacefull death. So if one were to go for this method, what are things to consider? I mean, what kind of benzo's would work best? At what doses will the chance of death (or at least coma) be likely? How much alcohol would we be talking and what kind of liqor? What are other factors (tolerance for example or individual differences) that make this deadly or not. I am not implying this is a reliable method, but it does seem possible especially considering some people died from alcohol or benzo's alone. Does anybody have more info on this?

 

[WornOutLife]

I did that last year and ended up in a 2-day coma and with a fuck*d up stomach for months.
The doctors said I was extremely lucky not to have ended up with permanent brain damage and they had even told my dad beforehand that once I woke up, I might not have been the same person he once knew.

I wouldn't do it again. (unless I'm desperate and have a panic attack one more time)

 

[Popopo]

I did that last year and ended up in a 2-day coma and with a fuck*d up stomach for months.
The doctors said I was extremely lucky not to have ended up with permanent brain damage and they had even told my dad beforehand that once I woke up, I might not have been the same person he once knew.

I wouldn't do it again. (unless I'm desperate and have a panic attack one more time)

Sounds bad... May I ask what you took and how much?

 

[WornOutLife]

Sounds bad... May I ask what you took and how much?

Well, I took lots of different pills and some of them were benzos.

They were lorazepam, clonazepam, aripiprazol, risperidone, setraline and lamotrigine. I took about 100 pills (yes, I just gulped them while drinking beer and vodka super duper fast) ans was planning to hang myself but I ended up passing out way too fast.

Then, my life was hell for 6 months. Can't fail next time!

 

[Popopo]

Well, I took lots of different pills and some of them were benzos.

They were lorazepam, clonazepam, aripiprazol, risperidone, setraline and lamotrigine. I took about 100 pills (yes, I just gulped them while drinking beer and vodka super duper fast) ans was planning to hang myself but I ended up passing out way too fast.

Then, my life was hell for 6 months. Can't fail next time!

Omg. As someone who just went trough his first ctb attempt and actually flew from the hospital cause I was going MAD in there I can imagine how fcked up that must have felt. Do you know if the research chemical benzo's (like for example clonazolam) are any stronger, weaker or similair? And how about mixing in amphetamines or coke?

 

[thats_a_wrap]

I've been considering this as a method but always get talked out of it here due to how likely it is to fail. Mine would be 2 boxes of oxycodone, 2 boxes of valium, some mdma, maybe 3 lsd tabs, some codeine, 240 st John's wort tablets, some mushrooms, and any other pharmaceutical laying around. 8 boxes of metformin, a bunch a bunch of thyroid meds, and a fuck tonne of anabolic steroids. Just throw the whole kitchen sink at it and hope something is enough to kill me. Wish I kept those boxes of amitriptyline, tramadol and gabapentin to throw into the mix. Would probably need something to stop the vomiting too. Wash it down with as much vodka as I can, or maybe a vodka suppository. I'd worry that it's still not enough so I'd want an insurance policy of either hanging, cutting, stabbing, jumping or drowning/suffocating. Would be a lot easier and less traumatic if I could get a gun.

 

[motel rooms]

Hey there people, I know it is possible (not 100% certain tho) to die from respiratory depression or get into a deep coma even from a high dose of benzo's alone and mixing alcohol into the mix increases those odds.

Unfortunately, benzos are extremely safe even in outrageous doses & even if mixed with alcohol. You'd have to drink a LOT of hard liquor, at least a liter, in a VERY short period of time & not throw up (antiemetics help with that a bit) to die from respiratory depression. Maybe you'd be able to drown if you did it in a bathtub or a body of water. Drowning probably isn't unbearably painful if you suddenly regain consciousness but you're drunk & benzoed as a skunk

 

[KiloCharlieBravo]

I tried this.. I mixed in some tramadol as well. Clearly it didn't work for me. Problem was I blacked out but continued semi-functioning and messaged a few friends about what I did. I took all the clonazepam I had and downed about 3/4 of a 750ml bottle of hard liquor (43% alcohol).

 

[Popopo]

I tried this.. I mixed in some tramadol as well. Clearly it didn't work for me. Problem was I blacked out but continued semi-functioning and messaged a few friends about what I did. I took all the clonazepam I had and downed about 3/4 of a 750ml bottle of hard liquor (43% alcohol).

So your friends found out and saved you or..?

 

[KiloCharlieBravo]

So your friends found out and saved you or..?

They just stopped me from continuing drinking and probably taking more random pills. They poured all the alcohol in the house down the drain and took away any pills they could find. At that stage I didnt know amitriptyline was more deadly than the benzos, so I still had a full bottle of amitriptyline that I am sure I would have taken if they hadn't stepped in. It was just very poorly planned (wasnt planned at all). I dont have any friends anymore, so I dont have to worry about that in future.

But I do think you need to take an insane amount of benzos to die. It was the second time I took a shit load of clonazepam. I'm now planning to use an exit bag with nitrogen.
I should probably add that one of my friends was a MD and he treated me at home. I don't remember much but he did put me on an IV drip.

 

[Popopo]

They just stopped me from continuing drinking and probably taking more random pills. They poured all the alcohol in the house down the drain and took away any pills they could find. At that stage I didnt know amitriptyline was more deadly than the benzos, so I still had a full bottle of amitriptyline that I am sure I would have taken if they hadn't stepped in. It was just very poorly planned (wasnt planned at all). I dont have any friends anymore, so I dont have to worry about that in future.

But I do think you need to take an insane amount of benzos to die. It was the second time I took a shit load of clonazepam. I'm now planning to use an exit bag with nitrogen.
I should probably add that one of my friends was a MD and he treated me at home. I don't remember much but he did put me on an IV drip.

Ah shit that sucks. And I know how it feels to fail. I also know how it feels better not to have any fcking friends at all when you feel this way. I think nitrogen with an exit bag is a good way if you are technical enough to make it properly.

 

[RedHarlequin]

This won't work. Benzos are created to be safe in comparison to the older barbiturates that caused respiratory depression and that were easy to die from. There are older psychiatric medication that can be lethal though like amitriptyline. Please do your research.

 

[SadGirl32]

I don't believe you could die in this way. It would be too easy. CTB is not as easy as in the movies :/

 

[Popopo]

Weird suggestion... But what if someone would starve him/herself before taking the benzo's and alcohol?

 

[motel rooms]

Weird suggestion... But what if someone would starve him/herself before taking the benzo's and alcohol?

That would just increase the likelihood of vomiting. Benzos are ridiculously safe &, unless you're in your early 20s or younger, it's very hard to drink enough alcohol quickly enough to die of respiratory depression. Adolescent brains are still developing not just psychologically, but also physiologically, so they're more vulnerable to alcohol poisoning

 

[mindcancer]

Flurazepam and Temazepam are the most toxic benzodiazepines whilst Oxazepam is considered the least toxic and least sedative. To up the sedative effect and lethality, consuming strong alcohol, barbiturates, TCAs, opioids, sedative antipsychotics, anticonvulsants & antihistamines (basically CNS depressants) have been proven to work. The thing is that it won't work if you're looking to ctb.

 

[motel rooms]

Flurazepam and Temazepam are the most toxic benzodiazepines whilst Oxazepam is considered the least toxic and least sedative. To up the sedative effect and lethality, consuming strong alcohol, barbiturates, TCAs, opioids, sedative antipsychotics, anticonvulsants & antihistamines (basically CNS depressants) have been proven to work. The thing is that it won't work if you're looking to ctb.

Why wouldn't an AE + a lot of hard liquor + enough opioids + benzos work?

 

[Foogs]

It would be so nice if pills were more effective, I have so many different sedatives sitting around

 

[Dear Agony]

Nah that doesn't kill you. If you do them though and choose another method like jumping, hanging or guns, that really does decrease your survival instinct and anxiety, and makes it easier to go through it. This comes from someone that tried this exact method, xanax and vodka. I overdosed on both, I was in a coma for two days but felt pretty much ok when I woke up lol and far from dead.

 

[mindcancer]

Why wouldn't an AE + a lot of hard liquor + enough opioids + benzos work?

"A lot" and "enough" would do the trick. But in that case the focus isn't on the benzodiazepines anymore.

 

[motel rooms]

"A lot" and "enough" would do the trick. But in that case the focus isn't on the benzodiazepines anymore.

I know. You should've made that clearer though

 

[primavera1956]

L'ho fatto l'anno scorso e sono finito in coma di 2 giorni e con lo stomaco fottuto per mesi.
I dottori dissero che ero estremamente fortunato a non essere finito con danni cerebrali permanenti e avevano persino detto a mio padre in anticipo che una volta che mi fossi svegliato, avrei potuto non essere la stessa persona che conosceva una volta.

Non lo rifarei. (a meno che non sia disperato e abbia un attacco di panico ancora una volta)

It depends on the quantity, maybe

 

[mindcancer]

I know. You should've made that clearer though

You can die by eating enough broccoli.

 

[motel rooms]

You can die by eating enough broccoli.

Are you comparing fentanyl to broccoli?

 

[mindcancer]

Are you comparing fentanyl to broccoli?

You're right. It wasn't a fair comparison. I'll make sure to make it clearer in the future.