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except for some models/celebrities, beautiful people rarely do themselves in, imho. check out facesofsuicide. com - you prolly won't find 10/10 people there.
 
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FTL.Wanderer

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except for some models/celebrities, beautiful people rarely do themselves in, imho. check out facesofsuicide. com - you prolly won't find 10/10 people there.


Thanks for the reference! That would be an interesting, but hard to do, study--to find out if there's a higher rate of unattractive people committing suicide than the rate of unattractive people generally in a culture. I'd guess you're right.
 
Glim

Glim

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Jan 28, 2019
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I've written about life determinism in four physics journals. The articles were barely published. And the backlash, including at my own university, was fierce. Even non-traditional-religious people refuse to consider seriously the evidence in support of determinism. It undermines their perception of ethics, justice, and societal day-to-day pragmatism. Hence the persistence of hypocritical vapid platitudes like, "It's what's on the inside that counts" that contrast so clearly with the way we actually behave. And the demonization that's almost inevitable of those of us who present evidence in support of determinism... Humanity's loathing of determinism eclipses even their dislike for suicide.
What do you mean? I could totally will myself to enjoy the sensation of being set on fire.
 
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Xaphous

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Beauty just feeds peoples selfish ego, people in general will care much less about an ugly woman.
 
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A lot of unhappiness stems from being unattractive. We live in a lookism society after all.
 
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One more attempt on life.
Feb 18, 2019
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A lot of unhappiness stems from being unattractive. We live in a lookism society after all.

Yeah, however been pretty is no guarantee... But sure, amazingly good attitude has made not beautiful people be so attractive too..... How to develop that attitude is not well documented
 
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Most famous people who commited suicide that I can think of were quite attractive :
Dalida
Kurt Cobain
Virginia Woolf (was considered beautiful at that time, for the standards of the era)
Models : Ruslana Korshunova
Brian Bianchini ( can someone look even better than that ?!)
and many others

I used to be not attractive, and used to think thats the main source of my misery.(was bullied a lot) Then at cca 18 y old i became attractive and slowly I realized Iwas more unhappy than ever, people started to use me, friendships/relationships were shallow and insincere , unwanted unpleasent attention. Later I started to have serious chronic health problems and I was being dismissed by "oh but you re looking good, you dont look ill at all". etc
I realized that perfect appearence can not heal my traumas, cuz they go far beyond surface. And great apparence only further cover up the broken shattered person inside and thus makes it harder for someone to understand or even believe what I ve been enduring.
 
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Fenty(nal)

Fenty(nal)

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Oct 18, 2018
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When Kate Spade CTB I was rocked. It made me happy knowing successful people are regular people, but also I lost hope. I mean if she CTB what hope is there for me (I really idolized Kate Spade).
 
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Final Escape

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You can be very beautiful but unwise and reckless. Plus beauty fades and if u have not lived your life for the things that really matter? Well u can end up suffering a lot as u get a bit older and realize you have nothing that gives u meaning. Many people don't understand that in the long run all that truly matters is your relationships with others and hopefully u got to achieve some economic security. If you miss out on too many areas that give longterm meaning, it's brutal as u get older.
Handsome just maybe. Hot I don't think so.
I didn't think he was hot, but rick genest the skull face tattoo guy yes :) oh wait he didn't commit suicide he fell off his balcony by accident maybe.
 
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Gdj94

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Being good looking doesn't help, look how many good looking people kill themselves. I was always fat and unattractive, got no attention from women and was bullied for the way I looked. I thought changing the way I look would help, I got in shape, got covered in tattoos, have women falling at my feet, everyone wants to be my friend because they want to be big and get attention from women. It doesn't make things any better, in fact it made it worse for me, I realised people didn't like or want me for who I was, but just for the way I looked, it was all superficial attention and fake love.
 
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ManWithNoName

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Hum what about robin williams, and anthony bourdain?
I think in their cases, Williams and Bourdain were famous so naturally their suicide would make headlines. The fame-factor definitely comes into play.
 
favourite

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I've never been pretty but there was a time in my life when I wasn't overweight, had nice dense hair, straight white teeth and nice style overall. I managed to get a girlfriend (who wasnt attracted me to me anyway but nevermind) and so on.

Then came depression and hit me like a fucking brick. In 3 years I gained 60 pounds, due to hormonal problems my hair thinned to the point of almost bald patches, I started wearing sweatshirts everywhere even my teeth got crooked again lol. In short, I look like ABSOLUTE SHIT.

And now I can see clearly the shift in people's attitude towards me. A lot of people just treat me like shit or laugh at my face. I moved to the place where no one knew me and thought I'd start a new life. Yeah, I look like shit but I try to be nice and kind and all. But I see people staring at me...sometimes people don't even want to sit beside me on the bus (they prolly think I stink because Im fat and dressed in large hoodie), my coworkers laughed at me because Im ugly and lonely, a complete stranger came to me and said contemptously OUT OF MY WAY, FATASS.

I don't expect people to fall at my feet or fall in love with me, but I start to think that being fat and ugly is the cardinal unforgivable sin in modern world. People won't let you forget your ugliness. No wonder so many of us, uglies, come out only at night and avoid people. But it's not life.

Yes, I wasn't happy when I was prettier (prettier - ; but still not beautiful), but being ugly as fuck is still 100x worse.
 
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Sunlight99

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Sep 20, 2018
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Being good looking doesn't help, look how many good looking people kill themselves. I was always fat and unattractive, got no attention from women and was bullied for the way I looked. I thought changing the way I look would help, I got in shape, got covered in tattoos, have women falling at my feet, everyone wants to be my friend because they want to be big and get attention from women. It doesn't make things any better, in fact it made it worse for me, I realised people didn't like or want me for who I was, but just for the way I looked, it was all superficial attention and fake love.

I'm a man and I used to be very bony, and thus ugly. I've since gained weight and muscle and become better looking. When I was ugly, I would dress in a very unique, artistic way. I felt I couldn't compete in normal appearance. What you said about superficial attention and fake love rings true. I was attracting people who wanted to feel special by being around someone who they thought others perceived as special, like a wacky artist or a rock star. I'm not sure how to describe it.

I definitely prefer having gained muscle, though. I feel a little better in my own skin.
 
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throwaway777

throwaway777

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Oct 3, 2018
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im ugly but even if i was beautiful i would want to die anyway so it really doesnt affect me when people who are considered beautiful kill them selves its always tragic but i get what u mean
 
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marcusuk63

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Mar 24, 2019
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i always think of Evelyn McHale 23 she left a note .....
The note, found by a detective, didn't give much insight into why she had done it but asked that her body be cremated.
"I don't want anyone in or out of my family to see any part of me," the note read. "Could you destroy my body by cremation? I beg of you and my family – don't have any service for me or remembrance for me. My fiance asked me to marry him in June. I don't think I would make a good wife for anybody. He is much better off without me. Tell my father, I have too many of my mother's tendencies."
Keeping with her wishes, her body was cremated, and she had no funeral.
The photo, however, has lived on for 70 years.

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Raggas

Raggas

Suicide is self expression
Dec 31, 2018
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It doesn't matter, the inner turmoil makes everything else worthless.

See picture related who was 'good looking and talented' but ended his life.
 
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hegesias

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Apr 4, 2019
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I'm interested in this subject too. One of the reasons I want to kill myself is because I'm ugly.
 
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Midnight

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Jun 30, 2018
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I alway's assumed i'm mediocre looking and i'm told i'm not bad looking at all. However my experience tends to say i'm more on the butt-ugly side so yeah idk. As to why beautifull people also commit suicide? Well life can be hard on them aswell i guess .. rich/poor/ugly/beautifull when your mind is fucked up for whatever reason it all doesn't matter.
 
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Not necessarily about beauty, but I'm always surprised when very professionally successful people commit suicide. Not because I think career success and money alleviates depression, but because I can't imagine how someone can have so much competence to succeed in a competitive field while having suicidal depression. I can barely do anything. A good example is Ned Vizzini who was a successful computer programmer turned author who had a feature film made out of one of his works, David Foster Wallace, and Alan Krueger, a high-status economist under Obama.
 
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r0_

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people we consider beautiful might not think they actually are.

also, i dated a girl who was model material gorgeous but she had also been physically abused by her dad since age 4 and was and still is in therapy and taking a ton of meds for depression/anxiety/bipolar.

successful people probably deal with a lot of stress.
 
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Mar 19, 2019
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This should be enlightening for all the people who want to commit suicide because they think they're ugly. If it's not your looks, then what is it? Why do people commit suicide? That's rhetorical because I ask myself similar questions.
 
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Sunlight99

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Sep 20, 2018
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Short and ugly face.

Have you tried "looks maxing?" It's where you change what you can, like losing weight if you are overweight, gaining muscle, getting a better haircut, dressing better. It doesn't solve all your problems, but it can give you more confidence. Lifting weights especially for men helps.
 
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ScorpiusDragon

Mage
Mar 25, 2019
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Not necessarily about beauty, but I'm always surprised when very professionally successful people commit suicide. Not because I think career success and money alleviates depression, but because I can't imagine how someone can have so much competence to succeed in a competitive field while having suicidal depression. I can barely do anything. A good example is Ned Vizzini who was a successful computer programmer turned author who had a feature film made out of one of his works, David Foster Wallace, and Alan Krueger, a high-status economist under Obama.
I'm one of those people who "seems to have it all." Ivy League graduate, prospective law school student, and physically attractive (I have had strangers stop me on the street or strike up conversations with me at coffee shops to tell me that I'm beautiful).
I still think about killing myself everyday. I experienced a significant amount of physical and emotional abuse when I was a child, and it's colored how I interact with people. I struggle to form meaningful relationships, and I feel empty and isolated everyday.
 
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couragetodie

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Jan 2, 2019
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more incredible than an attractive person CTB is someone who did not suffer trauma as a child suffering from suicidal depression. From my research, it's incredibly rare for someone with a trauma-free childhood, with stable, loving parents coming from a stable home to want to CTB. That's not to say if you grew up with trauma you necessarily want to CTB. Plenty of very successful people (e.g. Oprah Winfrey, Leon Black, etc.) grew up with terrible traumas as children but appear to have no desire to CTB and were able to channel that pain into productivity. I would venture to guess all of the SS members who say the world sucks, life sucks, they hate everyone, and so on had shitty childhoods and they can't disconnect their pain as adults from that trauma. Then when a loss happens like losing a spouse, gf, bf, etc. then the loss hits them 10x harder than for those who didn't have such trauma. Usually this is because they lost a parent as a child — either to death or abandonment. So it's basically incredible to me to learn of people who experienced horrible childhoods being stable adults. Inverse is also true — those with super stable childhoods wanting to CTB makes no sense to me and I would assume that in those cases for whatever reason the child was prescribed meds that messed his/her head up somehow.
 
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accidentaldeath

Student
May 29, 2018
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I know enough about suicide to know all kinds of people do it. Im fascinated by beautiful people who commit suicide. I think because it makes me feel better to know all kinds of people are messed up, even those who outwardly seem good. It's weird, I know.
I've been always told to be handsome by girls, even made some modeling when younger, I'm in a good physical shape and I still have depression, I think it has nothing to do with it.
 
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Sunlight99

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I'm one of those people who "seems to have it all." Ivy League graduate, prospective law school student, and physically attractive (I have had strangers stop me on the street or strike up conversations with me at coffee shops to tell me that I'm beautiful).
I still think about killing myself everyday. I experienced a significant amount of physical and emotional abuse when I was a child, and it's colored how I interact with people. I struggle to form meaningful relationships, and I feel empty and isolated everyday.
Are you male or female? I ask because of people coming up to you. I expect that to happen with women more than men.
 
accidentaldeath

accidentaldeath

Student
May 29, 2018
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more incredible than an attractive person CTB is someone who did not suffer trauma as a child suffering from suicidal depression. From my research, it's incredibly rare for someone with a trauma-free childhood, with stable, loving parents coming from a stable home to want to CTB. That's not to say if you grew up with trauma you necessarily want to CTB. Plenty of very successful people (e.g. Oprah Winfrey, Leon Black, etc.) grew up with terrible traumas as children but appear to have no desire to CTB and were able to channel that pain into productivity. I would venture to guess all of the SS members who say the world sucks, life sucks, they hate everyone, and so on had shitty childhoods and they can't disconnect their pain as adults from that trauma. Then when a loss happens like losing a spouse, gf, bf, etc. then the loss hits them 10x harder than for those who didn't have such trauma. Usually this is because they lost a parent as a child — either to death or abandonment. So it's basically incredible to me to learn of people who experienced horrible childhoods being stable adults. Inverse is also true — those with super stable childhoods wanting to CTB makes no sense to me and I would assume that in those cases for whatever reason the child was prescribed meds that messed his/her head up somehow.
I'm still here because of my family they are super supportive and love me, I can't mention a single problem with my family. I don't have any trauma my childhood was fabolous, I've told this a couple times in the forum, but depression and mental health issues have nothing to do with it, you can be a succesfull person and still mess up your life, get depression or a major mental disease like bipolar disorder or something like that.
 

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