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cylus46

cylus46

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Jan 28, 2025
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I use to be a believer in karma. Not anymore, I hate when people say bad people are gonna get whats coming to them. It's simply not true.
My step dad was a abusive POS who abused my family and made us homeless when I was just a kid. He's approaching retirement with a handsome pension.
My ex who was so mentally abusive I as a 5'11 man dropped from 140lbs to 90lbs during our relationship. I tried committing because of her, I drank because of her and she's ruined my perspective of love and trust. 2.5 years later? She's going to college abroad in Japan with her rich daddy and scholarships paying it for and her life is great and prosperous.
I don't like to sound bitter honestly I could give a fuck about these two anymore but their existence proves to me one thing.
Bad things happen to good people
Good things happen to bad people.
 
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TransTaxEvader

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Feb 22, 2025
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im reminded of the phrase:

"No good deed goes unpunished."

There are often few consequences for those who do awful things.
 
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Yume Nikki

Yume Nikki

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Dec 8, 2024
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It sucks seeing the people who abused you mentally/physically live out their best lives as if they never harmed you. I would be lying if I said I didn't wish karma on my ex at some point but I understand the frustration. Life really is unfair and no one ever talks about it.
 
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hopeifindmyself

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Dec 4, 2024
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It's what I observed. All of that made me much more numb & dissociated
 
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Michi_Violeta

Michi_Violeta

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Feb 3, 2025
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You and me brother. I'm fucking tired of it, it really angers me. People tell you "that's life", well, life sucks and if there are people who can accept living in a valley of tears full of selfish subhumans incapable of empathy or emotional responsibility then good for them, but I'm not staying.

Both my exes destroyed me. Life rewarded them. I've got 500g of SN under my bed and I'm typing this as I wait for 10mg of zopiclone to kick in. I thought I finally had a chance to be happy, to start over after years of trauma and abandonment, that I finally met a beautiful soul I could be vulnerable with and heal together. And then she replaced me —a published translator and interpreter who used to fucking drag race— for an MMA trainer that got kicked off the army for being a schizo. And you know what? She's happy. Thanks life for showing me being good and decent is worth fucking shit, it just earned me a lifetime of trauma and disappointment.
 
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Mar 19, 2025
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Setting aside the question of whether a person is inherently good or bad, everyone does harm at some point. If you live long enough, it's inevitable - you'll wrong someone in some way. Will you suffer for it? I believe so, though it may not happen during your mortal life. If not, it will happen in the afterlife. Not in the sense of 'burning in Hell forever,' but rather through the principle of 'you reap what you sow.' That is, you'll be made to experience for yourself the harm you've caused others. In this way, life ensures ultimate fairness.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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True and I'm sick of living in a world that values and rewards people like that.
 
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Rymrgand

Rymrgand

From now on, there will be no more darkness
Jan 5, 2025
233
Karma definitely doesn't exist. You only need to see someone who is rich to understand that. There's no god who judges us, and there's no magic energy who cares about our sense of morality. We are just animals, and someone who is powerful enough can avoid consequences.

The best you can expect is that someone who is abusive and has a messed up sense of love won't be able to have a healthy relationship.
 
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LittleNelson

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Dec 18, 2021
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I completely agree - there is no such thing as karma. The world is full of kind, innocent people who suffer. Meanwhile evil people continue to get rich and successful.
 
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Soontocatch

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Feb 20, 2025
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That's the downside of being a good person,you start to worry a lot about the things you do and the people around you.You make sure that your actions don't put others down and as a reason you end up giving up on a lot of things.Karma rarely works out,but unfortunately in the end bad people are the ones who get everything.
 
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moya117

moya117

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Mar 31, 2023
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i very much aggree with you
i dont think there really is a pure good person, anyone will hurt somebody wether its accidental or not, but at least just don't be a horrible person
i really wish something happened to horrible people, i really do wish karma exist but unfurtunately, many of them don't get the punishment from what they have done
my father who is abusive, not even a good father but a horrible husband too gets to die quickly due to random disease, i sometimes envy him
one of my father many mistress is living a luxurious life in china
family on my father's side who support and encourage his behavior is getting a lot of heritage money
my abusive ex who is a necrophilic and said that he might act on it someday get into a nursing school with full scholarship
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
3,170
i worked in a nursing. the bad people, the lucky ones who were lucky while young will end up old suffering in pain for 20 years from ages 70 to 90 . likely probability of this . it's unimaginable hell.

i won't become old or end up in a nursing home for years suffering because i'll be not existing safe from extreme torture. who will be better off?

i will be in non-existence the supreme perfection, the ultimate bliss

luck runs out for almost all. the law of probability is immutable

if you think the law of probability is not real then put 30 coins or quarters in a bucket and shake them up throw them on a table. they will never be all heads or all tails never , you could do it all day thousands of times today and never get all tails . and that's with only 30 , as the numbers go up say 50 it's exponentially less probable.

this points to that the law of probability is real , and also to everything tends to disorder the law of Entropy

the probability of getting 30 straight heads in a row is around 1 in one billion :


50 straight heads is over 1 quadrillion an unimaginably large number :

1,125,899,906,842,624
 
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EvisceratedJester

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Oct 21, 2023
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That's because bad people and good people don't even exist. It would not surprise me if your ex and those close to her saw her as a good person because good and bad are subjective concepts and whether or not you see someone as good or bad can depend on many factors, from age to relationship to personal experiences to culture and so on. Good and bad don't exist outside of the mind. The universe isn't going to punish those who you perceive as bad nor will it reward them because those values are just opinions that you happen to hold, not objective qualities interwoven within the fabric of the universe.

Your ex is living a good life (at least on the surface. We aren't her so we don't actually know what she is going through, especially mental health-wise) because she lucked out. Not because the universe is rewarding her for being a bad person. My stepmother isn't living a great life and she is someone who I used to see as being a bad person.

I find categorizing people as good or bad to just be unproductive at this point. It usually ends with people who see themselves as good not bothering to reflect more on their past actions and how they may have impacted others, while also leading to people who see themselves as bad not changing because they view it as an inherent aspect of their character. To add insult to injury, this type of black-and-white thinking has been used to harm and oppress people.

One of the best examples I can think of is when talking about the treatment of criminals. By promoting the view that criminals as just bad people, unlike us non-criminals, the government is able to get away with taking away their rights, subjecting them to terrible living conditions and using them for what is basically modern-day slavery. To make matters even worse, by stripping criminals of their rights it makes it easier for the government to target certain groups that it does not like by just labelling them as criminals. They are able to more easily get away with this because people view criminals as bad people and thus deserving of this.

While I also find myself sometimes defaulting to this facile view of others, it's better to try and fight against it. People are complex and this type of thinking is just regressive in my opinion.
 
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Jdieiejdjaow

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Nov 10, 2021
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If we grew up in dysfunction, we're very likely to choose people in our lives that don't serve us. Unhealthy/downright toxic people get away with it because of current legislation (complex trauma not being recognized as it'll revolutionize our societies and sociopathic/psychopathic/narcissistic/dark triad politicians know they'll be ejected from office). Heal your complex trauma and you'll start embodying a healthier lifestyle which will lead to better behaviors and decisions and ultimately quality of life. 🙂
 
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cylus46

cylus46

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That's because bad people and good people don't even exist. It would not surprise me if your ex and those close to her saw her as a good person because good and bad are subjective concepts and whether or not you see someone as good or bad can depend on many factors, from age to relationship to personal experiences to culture and so on. Good and bad don't exist outside of the mind. The universe isn't going to punish those who you perceive as bad nor will it reward them because those values are just opinions that you happen to hold, not objective qualities interwoven within the fabric of the universe.

Your ex is living a good life (at least on the surface. We aren't her so we don't actually know what she is going through, especially mental health-wise) because she lucked out. Not because the universe is rewarding her for being a bad person. My stepmother isn't living a great life and she is someone who I used to see as being a bad person.

I find categorizing people as good or bad to just be unproductive at this point. It usually ends with people who see themselves as good not bothering to reflect more on their past actions and how they may have impacted others, while also leading to people who see themselves as bad not changing because they view it as an inherent aspect of their character. To add insult to injury, this type of black-and-white thinking has been used to harm and oppress people.

One of the best examples I can think of is when talking about the treatment of criminals. By promoting the view that criminals as just bad people, unlike us non-criminals, the government is able to get away with taking away their rights, subjecting them to terrible living conditions and using them for what is basically modern-day slavery. To make matters even worse, by stripping criminals of their rights it makes it easier for the government to target certain groups that it does not like by just labelling them as criminals. They are able to more easily get away with this because people view criminals as bad people and thus deserving of this.

While I also find myself sometimes defaulting to this facile view of others, it's better to try and fight against it. People are complex and this type of thinking is just regressive in my opinion.
I get what youre saying but I think you're misinterpreting my perception of good and bad. I don't think of good and bad as subjective, or based off emotion. Atleast i try my best to keep emotions out (in reality no human can be completely objective but you can get close by trying). I look at good and bad objectively based off what aligns with me and my society definition of what is classified as good and what is bad behavior and use that to pass judgement and classification.

My step dad was objectively a abuser, who abused my autistic siblings, and forcibly took my mom's money and left her and her 4 kids (which included me) homeless, cheated on her 4 times, yells and degrades her to this day over the Phone, has harassed her, and pretends to feel bad about it but then repeats it over and over again and tells everyone around him she's at fault for x-y and z reasons which are bs.

My ex used me for the simple title of having a boyfriend. I dropped everything for her if she asked and made sure I did everything I should have as a partner all the while she took advantage of me, constantly ghosted me then gaslighted me when confronted, she would make me feel bad for wanting her to show me more love, she would purposely be touchy with other guys and tell her friends she does it just make me feel worse, because it was "fun" even after I got to the point of starving myself down to 94lbs I finally put my foot down and told her no to things like buying her this or taking her here and she broke up with me. And that sounds like a lot of me but no. She also told her friends deep things and problems I have that I vented to her about and we're very private to me.

Her "friends" told me to break up with her because of how bad she treated me and the things she tell them about me and I didn't listen. In the school she was known as a problem not because there's no concept of good and bad but because objectively she just treats the people around her like tools for entertainment and nothing more.

These two people I see as objectively bad people that even if it didn't effect me personally and I was just a outsider looking in I could still safely say "oh yeah this guy/girl is just a piece of shit".

I stand by that but I was foolish in believing in karma and now as a adult I have now learned from life experience and maturity that those ideas and the premise of bad or good people getting what they deserve is a lie and a fairy tail.
 
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bipolar22

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Bad selfish behavior is encouraged in society. You wanna make it high gotta be cut throat. Cause narcissistic leaders made this system. Average People are dumb and made dumber by the school system and follow along. And that's why we are fucked.
 
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tiredoflife2

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Jan 21, 2025
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Yes it's nonsense, I see lots of bad people become successful, look at all these psychopaths in banking that crash economies for their own selfish ends. This world is horrible. I think when you accept that it's quite freeing, I'm not going to try anymore.
 
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divinemistress36

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its made me so cynical of the world.Theres no real justice
 
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NikolaiK

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Sep 25, 2024
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That's because bad people and good people don't even exist. It would not surprise me if your ex and those close to her saw her as a good person because good and bad are subjective concepts and whether or not you see someone as good or bad can depend on many factors, from age to relationship to personal experiences to culture and so on. Good and bad don't exist outside of the mind. The universe isn't going to punish those who you perceive as bad nor will it reward them because those values are just opinions that you happen to hold, not objective qualities interwoven within the fabric of the universe.

Your ex is living a good life (at least on the surface. We aren't her so we don't actually know what she is going through, especially mental health-wise) because she lucked out. Not because the universe is rewarding her for being a bad person. My stepmother isn't living a great life and she is someone who I used to see as being a bad person.

I find categorizing people as good or bad to just be unproductive at this point. It usually ends with people who see themselves as good not bothering to reflect more on their past actions and how they may have impacted others, while also leading to people who see themselves as bad not changing because they view it as an inherent aspect of their character. To add insult to injury, this type of black-and-white thinking has been used to harm and oppress people.

One of the best examples I can think of is when talking about the treatment of criminals. By promoting the view that criminals as just bad people, unlike us non-criminals, the government is able to get away with taking away their rights, subjecting them to terrible living conditions and using them for what is basically modern-day slavery. To make matters even worse, by stripping criminals of their rights it makes it easier for the government to target certain groups that it does not like by just labelling them as criminals. They are able to more easily get away with this because people view criminals as bad people and thus deserving of this.

While I also find myself sometimes defaulting to this facile view of others, it's better to try and fight against it. People are complex and this type of thinking is just regressive in my opinion.
I feel like there are some things that are objectively wrong though. Like it is objectively wrong to lie and cheat, it's just wrong in a legalistic sense there is no way around it.
 
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Alo the obvi alien

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I use to be a believer in karma. Not anymore, I hate when people say bad people are gonna get whats coming to them. It's simply not true.
I truly hope that you get to find you peace and happiness in life before you go. What would you want for her?
 
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cylus46

cylus46

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I truly hope that you get to find you peace and happiness in life before you go. What would you want for her?
Nothing really. I sound really sadly about it but I'm mostly just traumatized. I can say I want this bad thing to happen to her and this bad thing but in my heart? I really just want her to feel what I felt and hopefully an apology. Instead I'm just watching her get everything she ever wanted in life despite her abuse, despite the shitty person she is deep down. But I can't keep wishing bad things upon her, I know those wishes will most likely be unfulfilled and it'll just rebound on me and further damage my already fragile mental.
 
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