Story Assisted suicide

[DontTouchMeImFamous]

Assisted suicide, you guys... I'm wondering about assisted suicide. Is it possible? Have anyone of you tried applying for it? How was your personal experience? Does anyone here know someone who has? I'm specifically curious about cases where a person with a mental illness, not an elderly or terminally ill person, was accepted. Are there any instances where someone was unexpectedly approved against all odds? I'm looking for some hopeful stories, if you have any to share.

It is my absolute dream to get accepted for assisted suicide...

 

[unluckysadness]

First you'll need around 10k or 12k on your bank account... (maybe more with travel fees). Then it's more complicated than you think. If you live in Canada, Switzerland or Belgium, it could be easier but you must be very ill. There is an exception with Pegasus in Switzerland but now they ask another person who validates your suicide. Sadly it's quite impossible. Only new laws that legalize it will be the solution. But we may wait a long time...

 

[matt.7890]

Assisted suicide, you guys... I'm wondering about assisted suicide. Is it possible? Have anyone of you tried applying for it? How was your personal experience? Does anyone here know someone who has? I'm specifically curious about cases where a person with a mental illness, not an elderly or terminally ill person, was accepted. Are there any instances where someone was unexpectedly approved against all odds? I'm looking for some hopeful stories, if you have any to share.

It is my absolute dream to get accepted for assisted suicide...

You have Dignitas, Pegasos and Athanasios in Switzerland that offer VAD for people from across the globe. I am currently in the process but it ain't easy given I am in my early 30s and do not have support from the family. It is also my dream and will be fighting for it like a lion ;) If you are above 40 chances are much higher to get the green light with no family support from what I understand. Anyways you will need to gather all medical docs, translate them if not in eng or german, along with some other admin docs like birth certificate, marital status and biography. Fingers crossed in case you decide to give it a try

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

I'm specifically curious about cases where a person with a mental illness, not an elderly or terminally ill person, was accepted.

Here is an article about an assisted suicide of a person with mental illness

Assisted suicide clinic used by Arizona sisters faces legal threat from other family

Krista Atkins rejected her family’s concerns just before her death by suicide in June 2020

www.independent.co.uk

According to this Pegasos encountered legal threat from the family of the woman who ended her life by assisted suicide, in 2020. It seems they are still accepting mentally ill but physically healthy people, but it's needed to to be accompanied by family members.

Email inquiry to Pegasos

Nothing. I haven't heard anything from either email and I don't think they'll be getting back to me at this point. Since I mentioned having autism (it's not a mental illness it's a developmental condition those are different but most people/doctors don't get that) and requesting financial...

sanctionedsuicide.site

 

[Daphne]

Before abortion was legal, there were back alley clinics that would do the service. If you look on the dark web, you could probably hire someone to take you out.

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

If you look on the dark web, you could probably hire someone to take you out.

It's very likely to get scammed

 

[WrathfulGloom32]

There is an exception with Pegasus in Switzerland but now they ask another person who validates your suicide.

Dystopian world. I could already imagine "Yes, here is my brother, he's been suffering from suicidal thoughts since he was 11. Please accept him into the program, he tried so many times to get peace" . Where is the brother's autonomy? Why should he bring someone to speak for him? And also I'm pretty sure they don't accept anyone besides a certain age which sucks even more.

If I wasn't suicidal and had to do this for someone, I would despise the world in a very pro active way (can't say). Not because they took my friend away but because they don't care, they don't care that I had to go with him for him to be able to get HIS peace, they don't care that he was in pain for his whole life, they don't care that he attempted many times either. They just don't want to hear about it , so much so that besides making the subject taboo and hard to talk about, they are actively going against it so that no one will be able to kill themselves, just to keep their la-la land up and running.

Hell wishes it was earth. And basically if I didn't make it clear since I reread it and it's not that clear; there shouldn't be a need of anyone else coming to validate YOUR experience, the fact that it's like this in some places is terrible and infantilizes us. I don't have anyone to vouch for me, so I'll have to do it the old fashioned way and I'm also not old enough in society's eyes. Fuck this planet, didn't know you had to meet requirements to kill yourself humanely

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

Dutch woman, 29, granted euthanasia approval on grounds of mental suffering

Zoraya ter Beek, who has chronic depression, anxiety, trauma and unspecified personality disorder, expected to end her life soon

www.theguardian.com

 

[TheEmptyVoid]

Dutch woman, 29, granted euthanasia approval on grounds of mental suffering

Zoraya ter Beek, who has chronic depression, anxiety, trauma and unspecified personality disorder, expected to end her life soon

www.theguardian.com

I wish I was her

 

[Daphne]

It's very likely to get scammed

Dark web dude: show me the $
You, throwing him the duffell: it's all there
Dark web dude grabs money bag, shoots client and runs off into the sunset. No scam.

It's very likely to get scammed

 

[DontTouchMeImFamous]

It is also my dream and will be fighting for it like a lion ;)

Wow. I really admire you're fighting spirit. I really envy you. I'm really glad it's not only me who's dreaming about it. This is reassuring. Seeing that someone else is determined inspired me. Thank you.

Before abortion was legal, there were back alley clinics that would do the service. If you look on the dark web, you could probably hire someone to take you out.

Can you tell me more about this?

 

[DontTouchMeImFamous]

There is an exception with Pegasus in Switzerland but now they ask another person who validates your suicide.

They also require a family member to sign a letter that validates your VAD AND to accompany you to your VAD. Like what the hell is that? That's not fair!

I asked them if it is ok to bring someone from Exit International to accompany me instead, but they said no. What am I supposed to do?

 

[bluebirds]

They also require a family member to sign a letter that validates your VAD AND to accompany you to your VAD. Like what the hell is that? That's not fair!

I asked them if it is ok to bring someone from Exit International to accompany me instead, but they said no. What am I supposed to do?

Where does it say it requires that? Provide the exact verbatim of what they told you because their site clearly says if you have no one to accompany you, we can make arrangements!

Where is that letter sent and is it sent via email prior to VAD - please elaborate on what they said about the parental signature ?

 

[DontTouchMeImFamous]

Where does it say it requires that? Provide the exact verbatim of what they told you because their site clearly says if you have no one to accompany you, we can make arrangements! Where is that letter sent and is it sent via email prior to VAD - please elaborate on what they said about the parental signature ?

"Given your relatively young age, you would need to submit a notarized letter from your family and next of kin, attesting to their support of your application. The other critical component would be seeing support from your family in the form of accompanying you to your VAD, as they would also serve in the critical and necessary role as witness, which is legally required as part of the identification process.

There are a few components that could work together to support your successful future application: if you are closer to the age of 50, if you have been a Pegasos supporter and subscriber for several years, and if you are able to come to your VAD accompanied by a close friend (in lieu of a relative). (Note: Becoming a Pegasos supporter assists in a future application, as that helps establish and demonstrate ongoing inteent and interest in VAD services.)

I hope this helps gives you some guidance regarding your future options."

I replied asking if it would be sufficient if my family signed the letter. I told them I can bring someone from Exit International to accompany me and identify me after my death to meet Swiss regulations. They said this:

"No, that would not be sufficient. I'm sorry" .

 

[honir]

Wow. I really admire you're fighting spirit. I really envy you. I'm really glad it's not only me who's dreaming about it. This is reassuring. Seeing that someone else is determined inspired me. Thank you.

Can you tell me more about this?

way back, a friend of mine sanctioned a hit on herself through one of those online dark web stuff. I would not have known if not for her left items. I have downloaded their app to see if there can still be records or to try to understand how it went.
Apparently, from my understanding, you contact this middleman who finds someone interested in offing you. you make an agreement and there is this escrow thing to ensure both hold on to their part of the bargain. either way, i could only imagine how it could have gone. could she have had second thoughts before getting offed? too late to backout? did they talk before or was it instant? just unanswered questions but gives you the understanding that the world has evolved into how we need them.

 

[1993]

I applied and it's really scary. Exploring it with the psychiatrist that will eventually make it happen is comforting though. It feels very different from ctbing. The thing is that he can force me to do therapies that I don't want to do. That causes friction between us, but that's okay. He questions every part of me/my life/deathwish and that's exhausting, but it also means that when he and two other doctors approve I'll be ready. And so will he, since he's the one who'll kill me. It's a long process and tbh sometimes (like today, planning an attempt now) I think ctb is better than completely giving up control

 

[bluebirds]

"Given your relatively young age, you would need to submit a notarized letter from your family and next of kin, attesting to their support of your application. The other critical component would be seeing support from your family in the form of accompanying you to your VAD, as they would also serve in the critical and necessary role as witness, which is legally required as part of the identification process.

There are a few components that could work together to support your successful future application: if you are closer to the age of 50, if you have been a Pegasos supporter and subscriber for several years, and if you are able to come to your VAD accompanied by a close friend (in lieu of a relative). (Note: Becoming a Pegasos supporter assists in a future application, as that helps establish and demonstrate ongoing inteent and interest in VAD services.)

I hope this helps gives you some guidance regarding your future options."

I replied asking if it would be sufficient if my family signed the letter. I told them I can bring someone from Exit International to accompany me and identify me after my death to meet Swiss regulations. They said this:

"No, that would not be sufficient. I'm sorry" .

It doesnt let me start conversation or Private message you, can you message me ?

 

[tulero]

as if a relative of your family supports your decision of taking your own life

lol, its completly stupid to ask such thing

 

[Artemus]

way back, a friend of mine sanctioned a hit on herself through one of those online dark web stuff. I would not have known if not for her left items. I have downloaded their app to see if there can still be records or to try to understand how it went.
Apparently, from my understanding, you contact this middleman who finds someone interested in offing you. you make an agreement and there is this escrow thing to ensure both hold on to their part of the bargain. either way, i could only imagine how it could have gone. could she have had second thoughts before getting offed? too late to backout? did they talk before or was it instant? just unanswered questions but gives you the understanding that the world has evolved into how we need them.

Can u send me the app

 

[DontTouchMeImFamous]

It doesnt let me start conversation or Private message you, can you message me ?

done

 

[eve2004]

Dark web dude: show me the $
You, throwing him the duffell: it's all there
Dark web dude grabs money bag, shoots client and runs off into the sunset. No scam.

Fatal overdose would be a better method with almost zero likelihood that the DWD would get caught.

 

[DontTouchMeImFamous]

Dark web dude: show me the $
You, throwing him the duffell: it's all there
Dark web dude grabs money bag, shoots client and runs off into the sunset. No scam.

Lol, it took me a long time to get that joke! Haha, but holy cow, thanks for the laugh.

 

[shampoo sniffer]

I wish I was her

I know you shouldn't compare your life to other people's. But I'm reading this article and feeling envious. She was young, pretty and had a partner. I have none of those things. Makes me feel even more of a failure. If she couldn't stick around, why should I?

 

[DontTouchMeImFamous]

I know you shouldn't compare your life to other people's. But I'm reading this article and feeling envious. She was young, pretty and had a partner. I have none of those things.

Yea, she's so lucky.

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

First you'll need around 10k or 12k on your bank account... (maybe more with travel fees). Then it's more complicated than you think. If you live in Canada, Switzerland or Belgium, it could be easier but you must be very ill. There is an exception with Pegasus in Switzerland but now they ask another person who validates your suicide. Sadly it's quite impossible. Only new laws that legalize it will be the solution. But we may wait a long time...

Belgium doesn't do assisted suicide. We have euthanasia. And in case of a mental illness foreigners won't be approved. Euthanasia because of 'ondraaglijk psychisch lijden' (unbearable mental suffering) is reserved for Belgains only.

 

[honir]

Can u send me the app

Didnt I send you the link already?

 

[Artemus]

Didnt I send you the link already?

These replies were before you send me the link

 

[Amarajoy]

They also require a family member to sign a letter that validates your VAD AND to accompany you to your VAD. Like what the hell is that? That's not fair!

I asked them if it is ok to bring someone from Exit International to accompany me instead, but they said no. What am I supposed to do?

Are you serious? What about the lady that was in the news recently that did it because her daughter died and the family didn't know until they received her ashes?

 

[DontTouchMeImFamous]

Are you serious? What about the lady that was in the news recently that did it because her daughter died and the family didn't know until they received her ashes?

I didn't hear about it tbh but I'm interested. Can you tell me more about it?
Anyways, the guys at Pegasus were very rude to me and didn't answer my questions sufficiently. They were like: "I already told you that you need to be 50, ok?"
So I guess you need to be 50 yrs of age, otherwise you will need to have a family member to sign a letter of them consenting to your suicide AND also to accompany you to your VAD.

And as if that is not enough, you will also need to submit tons and tons of medical docs (which will have to be more the younger you are) to prove that your suffering is really unbearable (according to them) and that you are sane which will be harder to prove if you're applying for mental illness. Only to have their psychologists assess you to check if you are actually honest and that you're suffering enough and these psychologists will have the final saying on your approval.

 

[tretion]

Before abortion was legal, there were back alley clinics that would do the service. If you look on the dark web, you could probably hire someone to take you out.

its very likely to be a scam or expensive though i wish i could find someone whod do it for me though