Assisted suicide should be legal to the mentally unwell

[Snake Bridges]

It doesn't make sense. As a person who has no skills low IQ and offer nothing to society I should have the right to kill myself. What are those things in Switzerland with the suicide pods? That should be everywhere in America. Why keep people who are useless like me to exist who does nothing for this world, to live? I'm literally a waste of space and some people want to go peacefully. But obviously in a country like America it's pretty obvious that the Government wants you to live not because it's some highly morally thing to do is to stop someone from suicide.. But they want you to work like a slave. Look at the homeless epidemic in Los Angeles. Half those people would rather die than to live. And Assisted suicide pods would tremendously help because they probably want to go to. What do you think? Do you support suicide pods?

 

[Rational man]

I see suffering in humans at all levels of physical and mental health. If suffering is intractable then how could i not support the choice to live or pursue treatment or other options. I cannot judge.

 

[Zzzzz]

I believe people should be able to choose whether they live or not and not have the choice made for them.

 

[lionetta12]

We are put on earth without our consent and without being asked if this is what we truly want. In my opinion, you should be able to leave it whenever you want to regardless of suffering or not.

This world is not for everyone and it certainly is not for me. For some its not just mental or physical suffering that makes you want to leave it, it can be a philosophical choice as well. Regardless, we should have accessible options to choose this ourselves. But that is just my honest belief and point of view.

 

[befree]

It is possible in some countries. But you would have to be a resident.

 

[TheLastK]

It so hard for me to say. I want it for myself but I can't bear the thought of my loved ones who are also mentally ill doing the same. I feel like ctb is the one thing you have to do on your own, at least for me.
What @Snake Bridges said about IQ and providing to society sounds kind of like eugenics to me and wouldn't end well. Plus, ctb shouldn't be just available to those who are "not intelligent".

 

[FuneralCry]

Assisted suicide should be a human right. All humans should be able to exit peacefully at a time of their own choosing and it shouldn't just be restricted to a certain age and certain criteria of suffering. None of us asked for this life in the first place and it's extremely selfish and cruel to deny someone the option of a peaceful exit. Life is just a pointless experience that we go through for the sake of it and existence is completely unnecessary, therefore there is no purpose or value to being alive. If someone wants to be gone, then they should just be able to exit. Life should only be lived if that's what the person wants.

 

[Rational man]

Assisted suicide should be a human right. All humans should be able to exit peacefully at a time of their own choosing and it shouldn't just be restricted to a certain age and certain criteria of suffering. None of us asked for this life in the first place and it's extremely selfish and cruel to deny someone the option of a peaceful exit. Life is just a pointless experience that we go through for the sake of it and existence is completely unnecessary, therefore there is no purpose or value to being alive. If someone wants to be gone, then they should just be able to exit. Life should only be lived if that's what the person wants.

You are wise.and your words have purposeful meaning.

 

[Unworthyoflove]

well, I do support the Idea of assisted suicide. I dont understand why this evil system kills people in so many ways and does it with the fake reason of overpopulation. but when people want to leave voluntary in peaceful way its a big NO. when you say that you want to leave because of not being intelligent enough to serve society, it sounds like you are just very unhappy about the role you have to play here. because there are many smart or not smart people who also dont serve in any way, but are still loved and welcome here. If serving society is your greatest wish, I can promise you that there are lots of things you can do without a university degree if you know what I mean ;) one doesnt need to be super smart to give company to elders, to work on a farm, collect rubbish from the forest and so on... :)

It is possible in some countries. But you would have to be a resident.

yes, but not only you might have to be a resident. you also have to prove that you suffer from an incurable and highly painful disease. they dont give this to mentally ill persons. no matter how much they suffer. and its very expensive too. be wealthy and have a deadly disease, then residency is not such an big issue. just recently heard of and old woman from Israel who did it in Switzerland. no problem

 

[befree]

I didn´t mean Switzerland, but countries like Belgium or the Netherlands. You don´t have to be a resident of Switzerland to apply for VAD.

 

[Unworthyoflove]

I didn´t mean Switzerland, but countries like Belgium or the Netherlands. You don´t have to be a resident of Switzerland to apply for VAD.

and do the benelux countrys also give it to depressed people ? that would be so awesome i d move there tomorrow ;)

 

[befree]

and do the benelux countrys also give it to depressed people ? that would be so awesome i d move there tomorrow ;)

According to the informations that I read on NL and Belgium websites, yes.

 

[Talvikki]

and do the benelux countrys also give it to depressed people ? that would be so awesome i d move there tomorrow ;)

Only 1 percent of recorded euthanasias in the Netherlands occur on the basis of mental suffering.

 

[Unworthyoflove]

Only 1 percent of recorded euthanasias in the Netherlands occur on the basis of mental suffering.

tnx. for your answer. I guess it means they do, but very rarely. probably its not easy to get it, otherwise more people would have done it this way

According to the informations that I read on NL and Belgium websites, yes.

nice.thanks

 

[want2dienow]

I'm not unwell, i am in pain
know the difference.

 

[Buddy]

Due to all that I have experienced, I have come to this conclusion: The reason people, such as myself, don't qualify for assisted suicide despite mentally suffering/physically suffering in extreme pain (but not "painful enough" to qualify for Physician-Assisted Suicide) is so they have someone to treat like shit/enjoy watching suffer - I haven't seen ANY EVIDENCE to say otherwise. They won't help make someone better, just continue to treat them like shit. I have said this to people in authority who only want to hear that I won't kill myself; they don't care why nor will they do anything to help me:

"I am suicidal. I have been since I was nine years old. I have tried several things but failed and there is nothing left for me to try. You made it clear that the factors as to why I'm suicidal don't matter when I tried to explain one of them. You only care if I will be alive for tomorrow so people can treat me like shit. I am basically an animal in the zoo, behind a cage, waiting for more people to stare, say nasty things to, and about." I have said this numerous times and, instead of proving that I'm wrong, I get the response, "I'm sorry you feel this way/we're sorry we can't do anything".

In 2021 I said this to a man that was supposedly a mental health worker in a Mobile Crisis Unit van that came to my home. Instead of anything being done to show that my statement wasn't true, I was told "we're sorry we can't do anything" (aka "we don't give a fuck") in a nasty tone. I ended the conversation shortly after - I was in this Mobile Crisis Unit van and left.

If there was actual help given/I was listened to and not dismissed I would not feel this way nor would I post this. Unfortunately, this is the response I am given and, since no help is given/they only care that I won't end my life, I would not feel that the reason people such as myself don't qualify is because they need someone to treat like shit/watch suffer.

 

[Euthanza]

Suicide pod is the way to go since it's nothing medical. Liquid Nitrogen is legally available on the market without restriction.

 

[mindcancer]

Doing it Aktion-T4 style

 

[Snake Bridges]

Suicide pod is the way to go since it's nothing medical. Liquid Nitrogen is legally available on the market without restriction.

How do I do it easily at home?

 

[Euthanza]

How do I do it easily at home?

Nitrogen tank, regulator, hose, scuba mask

Thread 'Exit bag and inert gas megathread' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/exit-bag-and-inert-gas-megathread.8393/

 

[befree]

+ adapter

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-inhale-nitrogen-gas-from-clinder.94119/

 

[Banshee]

If I stumb my toe or get Mayo on a burger when I asked for none, I should be able to have assisted ctb

 

[LittleJem]

Am Jewish…erm spent morning reading about Nazi extermination of those with mental illness. Hadamar Euthanasia Centre…At least one of their execution hospitals is still in operation as a psychiatric hospital, just without the execution bit…They also executed the doctors and nurses!

Then I read about Holocaust survivors with horrible mental health issues still alive (do they want to be?)… I also watched a documentary last night on Broadmoor (the UK's highest security mental hospital). It cost £60 million a year to run..

I know that justice makes bad decisions every day, but is keeping a load of dangerous and mentally ill people in solitary confinement actually more humane than quick execution?

I've been two or three months now on psych ward and would rather be exterminated. The only thing keeping me going is the possibility of sex and drugs when I'm out. If I am sectioned again I will keep a suicide kit on me in future.

I have been on this forum now for three or four years. How long does a person need to want to die for it to be respected.

These are my morbid thoughts today…

 

[cherryrumncrack]

We are put on earth without our consent and without being asked if this is what we truly want. In my opinion, you should be able to leave it whenever you want to regardless of suffering or not.

This world is not for everyone and it certainly is not for me. For some its not just mental or physical suffering that makes you want to leave it, it can be a philosophical choice as well. Regardless, we should have accessible options to choose this ourselves. But that is just my honest belief and point of view.

I felt this.

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

I think there should only be two restrictions on assisted suicide.

1) You must be 18yo/the age of majority.

2) You must understand what death is and that it's irreversible.

 

[nys]

I feel like assisted suicide makes a lot of sense and I don't understand why pro-lifers think we shouldn't have it. I agree with @lionetta12 about how we're given life without asking for it. Ideally, before we were born, we could somehow choose whether we wanted to exist or not, but we obviously can't do that. The next-best thing is the right to ctb. We should be able to choose whether we live or not. To me, that feels like such a fundamental human right and such an obvious thing. I really don't understand how some people can be against it. It literally makes no sense

 

[obafgkm]

What are those things in Switzerland with the suicide pods? That should be everywhere in America.

Why don't they make the pod into a refrigerator? Then they can sell it on Amazon. Nitrogen is released to keep food fresh. Ok, the partitions are normally fixed to prevent people from accident or misuse. Nitrogen is optional only if they need super fresh....

 

[Chaos_Contingency]

It doesn't make sense. As a person who has no skills low IQ and offer nothing to society I should have the right to kill myself. What are those things in Switzerland with the suicide pods? That should be everywhere in America. Why keep people who are useless like me to exist who does nothing for this world, to live? I'm literally a waste of space and some people want to go peacefully. But obviously in a country like America it's pretty obvious that the Government wants you to live not because it's some highly morally thing to do is to stop someone from suicide.. But they want you to work like a slave. Look at the homeless epidemic in Los Angeles. Half those people would rather die than to live. And Assisted suicide pods would tremendously help because they probably want to go to. What do you think? Do you support suicide pods?

I 100% agree. I know what it's like having a low IQ. I can barely do basic math and I have very little understanding of how politics or economics work. I'm just not to fit to live in this strange and confusing world and it pisses me off that the government forces people to stay alive just to use them. It's absolute bullshit.

 

[Astral Storm]

Totally agree with you. Assisted suicide should be availabe to everyone. All of us were forced into existence without our consent. Some of us suffer a great price for this. A price that doesn't needed to happen. It's our right to die peacefully if we want without the risk of injuries.

 

[gomenasai]

Assisted suicide should be available to everyone indeed. And what even is a mental disease? It's of a neurological origin therefore it's physical as well. To create these categories mental vs. physical is essentally ridiculous, as it is really the same thing. One can see how mental disease is still stigmatized and this is why the distinction between the two exists.