Venting Are you afraid of Death , for you to die?

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Do you fear Death ? Why or why not ? how do people on this website compare with the general population?

i don't mean the process of "dying" but Death after the brain dies. one could be "dying" for months of cancer or alshiemers but still alive.

I don't fear Death for many reasons. I believe Death to be non-existence forever. if i don't exist then i can't suffer a trillion times worse than the worst one can imagine. but while alive i can suffer extremely and so can every human and other sentient animal. eternal non-existence is the only guarantee of not being trapped in a hell a trillion times worse than the worst hell one can imagine.

the brain can suffer unending constant unbearable pain. but not after the brain dies. non-existence forever > life or existence

while alive i can suffer, feel pain, have bad memories , problems , diseases, get old and many other horrible things. permanent non-existence is the only guarantee of never suffering any of these horrors of never suffering. so imo non-existence forever is better than being alive or existing.

furthermore i find no meaning in anything . so life is meaningless suffering and unbearable pain. nothing matters to me except avoiding unbearable pain.

most people fear Death. most people seem to think that Death is the worst thing that can happen. to me it's the best thing that can happen to me because it's the escape from hell into the ultimate perfection of eternal non-existence.

i haven't killed myself because i fear failing and remaining alive with even more brain damage and other physical damage not because i fear Death. Death would be saving me from the worst nightmare so why would i fear it? and i would just be going to the state i was in before i was born for 13.8 billion years i didn't exist and i had no problem with not existing all that time.

i also fear any potential pain from a suicide attempt and of course i fear life because i can suffer unending constant unbearable pain any day i continue living .

also i didn't ask to be brought into this hell. i have to work all day a job and chores only to decay and risk extreme torture.

I don't see a reason for why i have to live another minute even if i didn't have all these problems.

Death will be like it was for 13.8 billion years before they birthed me into this nightmare.

i didn't have any problems for 13.8 billion years before i was born. big problems began for me only after i was born.

huge problems began for me only after i was birthed into this evil world as an always hungry animal that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain . for what to be a slave .

what am i but a bag of trillions of cells, and brain cells that can suffer unlimited extreme pain.

non-existence forever is as good as the unending worst pain the worst torture is bad.

to me Death / eternal non-existence is the escape from a hell that is a trillon times worse than the worst one can imagine , a hell they tell me i have to be grateful for . never i will never surrender. i would never want to life or exist under any cirmcumstances much less in a horrible life.

to me permanent non-existence is the most beautiful thing by a septillion times , the ultimate perfection.

nothing else has zero suffering, zero pain, no problems no bad memories..

The philosophy of avoiding unbearable pain. what should we call it? but also the desire for eternal non-existence to escape life and this world forever . but to me i don't care what other do if they want to live or die goes in with nothing matters except me avoiding torture, pain and suffering. so this is different from complete nihilism , efilism.

edit : 21 members on this site so far 84% don't fear Death

the general population in the US shocked me 52% don't fear Death. i would've thought it was over 95% fear Death for one thing the movies and tV shows i've seen they are always fighting to live and fear Death.

Demystifying death: 7 facts you may not know about death - WellTuned by BCBST

When it comes to death, everyone’s feelings are different. Some people are very afraid. Others aren’t at all.

bcbstwelltuned.com

 

[Anonymousa]

Yea I don't fear death itself at all as the main priority I have for myself is to not suffer and well as I would say after death is nothing, there is nothing to fear from it as I can't suffer if I can't feel or regret anything.

 

[hibikikyuxx]

Scared? No. I'm more curious, if anything.

 

[nuggetfinder]

No. I don't fear death itself. The only thing regarding death I fear is what you touched on, the possibility of brain damage after an attempt. I also fear pain during it. I know it's unrealistic but I just really really hope for a peaceful death.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Yea I don't fear death itself at all as the main priority I have for myself is to not suffer and well as I would say after death is nothing, there is nothing to fear from it as I can't suffer if I can't feel or regret anything.

i agree. My main priority is me avoiding extreme suffering and unbearable pain. then me avoiding any kind of suffering pain or problems. that's my philosophy . it's not complete Nihilism . Nihilism except for me avoiding pain or suffering and then my suicide as soon as possible.

part of my philosophy is nothing matters except avoiding suffering, pain , problems. and then my suicide as soon as possible is also part of my philosophy . these things are the only things that really matter to me. of course if i kill myself then i avoid suffering from then on forever . but i added my suicide asap for many other reasons also some of which i put in the OP.

The philosophy of avoiding unbearable pain. what should we call it? but also the desire for eternal non-existence to escape life and this world forever .

to me nothing is worth 1 second of the worst pain. what is worth 10 hours straight of the constant worst pain every second for 10 hours? , 10 days? 10 years? nothing.

but to me i don't care what other do if they want to live or die goes in with nothing matters except me avoiding torture, pain and suffering. so this is different from complete nihilism , efilism.

i agree with pro-mortalism that any sentient being will be better of not existing because they can't suffer extremely but can suffer extremely while alive. but i'm not for me doing anything about to like trying to get gov to mandate mass extinction or trying to convince anyone to kill themselves . so i guess i would be pro-choice because to me it doesn't matter if others want to live for a while or want to die sooner because we all will die anyway and the universe will also die

the problem is any time someone says some reality like 'life is bad" then many people assume that is encouraging suicide

 

[Mr. Snrub]

Yes. I fear the unkown. I can't be 100% sure death is non-existence but I agree that's the most likely scenario from what we know. Unfortunately we don't know everything. Our brains work in a particular way for a particular purpose. We have figured out a lot about a lot but there's some things we'll never be able to say for certain.

 

[jinmaopoison]

I just want it to be over but I'll miss my friends. I don't believe in an afterlife so I'm not worried about punishment or whatever. But the bad outweighs the good

 

[deletedaccount30982]

I fear the act of dying. Having had many close attempts, I know the physical pain and inevitable fear (no matter how ready you are, there will still be fear, humans are hard wired to fear death, suicide does against our very instincts) that accompany the act of death. I don't fear what comes next. I have come close, like I said, and it has always been oblivion. Nothing at all. You simply cease to be. It is very comforting to me. But to get there had proven to be far more difficult than I know what to do about.

 

[Metro]

I've for long agreed with you on the idea of the lack of suffering in death - it's impossible to suffer or feel pain or care about anything at all if you're dead. But conversely it's impossible to feel happiness or joy, too - though at a certain point in time I would've said that that doesn't matter because you only desire those things by virtue of being alive, and you won't actually care about missing them once you're dead, the same can be said for suffering. So I'm not promortalist, and not strictly antinatalist either - theoretically, you could very well create life that feels more happiness than suffering, and that would be a net positive. But I don't feel so good about making that risk.

Excluding the process of dying, I wouldn't say I'm scared of death but it does provoke somewhat of a reaction when trying to conceptualise it.

I have at various points tried to imagine second by second step by step what death would be like - pulling the trigger at earlier attempts, fading into unconsciousness in others. But each time I get to the actual death I have this feeling of utter overwhelm and incomprehension, then this weird snap back into reality.

It's probably because it's entirely impossible for me to imagine not being. The human brain can't think about not thinking or conceive not conceiving. Despite having done exactly that for billions of years, I am incapable of ever knowing what it's like. I can't imagine not being conscious, and it's trippy. I am admittedly scared of that because it's incredibly overwhelming to me.

Souls obviously don't exist, all we are are brain cells firing around a bunch, but I feel like it's hardwired in us to think of ourselves as something external.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I've for long agreed with you on the idea of the lack of suffering in death - it's impossible to suffer or feel pain or care about anything at all if you're dead. But conversely it's impossible to feel happiness or joy, too - though at a certain point in time I would've said that that doesn't matter because you only desire those things by virtue of being alive, and you won't actually care about missing them once you're dead, the same can be said for suffering. So I'm not promortalist, and not strictly antinatalist either - theoretically, you could very well create life that feels more happiness than suffering, and that would be a net positive. But I don't feel so good about making that risk.

Excluding the process of dying, I wouldn't say I'm scared of death but it does provoke somewhat of a reaction when trying to conceptualise it.

I have at various points tried to imagine second by second step by step what death would be like - pulling the trigger at earlier attempts, fading into unconsciousness in others. But each time I get to the actual death I have this feeling of utter overwhelm and incomprehension, then this weird snap back into reality.

It's probably because it's entirely impossible for me to imagine not being. The human brain can't think about not thinking or conceive not conceiving. Despite having done exactly that for billions of years, I am incapable of ever knowing what it's like. I can't imagine not being conscious, and it's trippy. I am admittedly scared of that because it's incredibly overwhelming to me.

Souls obviously don't exist, all we are are brain cells firing around a bunch, but I feel like it's hardwired in us to think of ourselves as something external.

to me i see Death / non-existence forever as the escape from hell. if i'm in hell why would i not think getting out of that is the best thing, imo i should think of the main thing that saving me from extreme torture nothing else should matter to me. and that in eternal non-existence i will be safe from unbearable pain and horrors. imo the pleasure addictions or any sense of "me" or "myself" are just things that would keep me here in hell to suffer extreme torture.

77% so far are not afraid of Death on this website. and as i showed in the OP 52% of U.S. humans are not scared of Death. so imo these polls show there is no inborn fear of Death. also because there is no even talk of Death . imo all we see is people in movies and tV shoes fighting to live and being afraid of Death well the movies and TV shoes that i've seen .

"Souls obviously don't exist, all we are are brain cells firing around a bunch"

i agree with that.
none of us existed in the year 1859 when Darwin wrote the book showed evolution is true. so ceasing to exist forever is like going back in time to when before you were born.

if you think about dreamless sleep every night , you don't exist during all that time . we only exist when we are thinking about ourselves or about consciousness when we ask a question like " what am i conscious of right now? : what was i conscious of a moment ago or an hour ago? a lof of times we are just reacting like an animal or doing habits like zoning out watching youtube tv videos or on autopilot or working on some problem. we become some reaction to whatever is going on as in a video. or we are thininking of a detail of solving a problem are we thinking that's me soliving a problem or are all into the details . we can think about only one thing at a time.

there are multiple processes going on in the brain but you can think of only one thing at a time. it's whatever wins the competition for attention at that moment. i think only when we think about ourselves then the brain brings up a model of the self to conscousness to attention. and when we think about conscioussness the brain brings up a model of consciousness and the self .

the attention schema theory of consciousness says that consciousness is only a model of the brain's attention. gives a false feeling of a magic like quality to consciousness.

 

[Irisse]

No, I only fear the dying process because of possible pain. Why would I be afraid of nothingness where I am safe and sound and protected from evils of this world? I at least hope that it's nothingness. I already was Nothing and I never had any problems at the time.

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

I'm afraid of dying a bad person estranged from God and being sent to hell.

At times like these I want to be extra sure it's not true. Noah's Ark?! Bread (invisibly) turning into the man-God? Priests saying a few words and making magical water? It seems impossible. Yet for some reason I can't really be sure.

 

[itsgone2]

I ask for death so I can't fear it. But I do fear how it may actually happen, even though I want it to.
And I would say we cannot be certain of non existence. No way to know. Why even be sentient? Why anything? There must be something grand behind it all but then why are some of us so pained? Why must life be so difficult?

 

[LackOfDetermination]

I only fear dying in any way or time other than by my own terms, such as being killed by a spider, getting run over, or being beat to death.

 

[snooperdooper]

Yes, I have grown incredibly afraid of death. My main problems with life are pretty insignificant compared to the lot of you. I just hate my body, separate from the mind (or whatever you consider the mind). I love my consciousness and the way that it operates but I just wish I had a better body. Something that I could feel comfortable in. The idea of not being in this body is very joyful. The idea of not being in this body and this mind is terrifying. I don't want to stop braining around. I want to do so many beautiful things that this body/world limits my mind from experiencing. Non existence would limit me from the most simplest of my desires. I am very scared of that.

 

[eternalpace]

I selected 'other' because the answer is probably somewhere between yes and no. When I tried partial hanging many years ago, the survival instinct seemed to work against me at one stage or another. Now that I'll be using a gun, I won't have time to work against myself. If I can countdown from 3 to 1 and pull the damn trigger, then it's mission accomplished... No time for the survival instinct to fight back.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Not afraid whatsoever - I'm actually looking forward to my consciousness not being confined and imprisoned in to an imperfect physical body.

The idea that death is the end of existence is preposterous to me, however I did go through some bizarre experiences right after my wife died that could not be chalked up to coincidence.

Personally, I believe that we all are co-creators of this reality we inhabit, however there is a delay between your beliefs and the realization of those beliefs. In the afterlife, your beliefs become your environment. If you study NDE testimonials, you will notice that Christians often see Jesus, Catholics see St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, others who believe they are going to hell may indeed find themselves in a hellish environment, and yet others who think nothing follows death might find themselves in a void of sorts.

I believe one of the early purposes of religion was to provide an understandable framework in the after death environment, where your beliefs become reality. The crossing of the River Styx is another example. These are all temporary illusions though they are no more illusions than what we think of as physical existence. They are temporary until you realize the true power of consciousness, and that all form is a product of consciousness.

For me, there is no moment of "death" - you don't get switched off like a light bulb. You are still you. It's just you instantly realize that a body is nothing more than a role you were playing. What happens is your perspective changes, and you are no longer hyper focused in physical existence. We have purposely chosen to forget this while focused in physical reality so as not to cheapen the experience.

I believe that birth is much more of a shock to the system than death. Birth implies putting limits on something that is always expanding and creating - your consciousness. It's confining yourself in to a very limited vehicle. You have probably already experienced "death" many, many times - you simply, and purposely, have chosen to deceive yourself. It's like being immersed in a really good movie, when everything else in your life is drowned out and your complete undivided attention is on the movie. So much so that you forget about everything else. However, once the movie is over, no matter how beautiful the scenery or characters were in that movie, you step out of the theater and realize it was just a movie.

If you watch or read a lot of NDE testimonials, it is pretty much a universal understanding that at the moment their consciousness leaves their body, they all talk about a distinct feeling of life being so trivial, and are amazed that they took it so seriously. They often can't understand why people are grieving or saddened by the state of their body. Many attempt to communicate with the family/friends/mourners, saying things like "why are you guys so sad? I'm still here and I'm perfectly fine!". There is no more pain or mental issues because those are all the result of a physical body and tissue.

Death is like finally being able to breathe after holding your breath for a really long time. Or like taking off a really thick set of winter clothing that you mistakenly thought were a part of "you". Death, in my belief, is one of the most natural things we can experience.

Birth and death are doorways, not a beginning and ending.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

i'm shocked that 52% of the normies are not afraid of Death . i thought at least 95% of the normies are terrified of Death. i guess the poll of the normies in OP might be wrong as 52% of normies in the U.S. don't fear Death? or could it be right? i'm thinking it's right.

but here 64% don't fear Death so far. that's only 12 points higher than the normies. i thought the margin would be greater . guess not.

i will never fear Death but want my Death by a septillion times more than anything , Death can save me from the worst hell and a book of other reasons, non-existence forever is the most beautiful thing

 

[Santana Idaho]

I'm deathly afraid.

I'm in fear of the unknown which is a huge cause of my 16 year function freeze. I read about the ligature method and all the variations months ago, and I decided to lightly test my placement on my arteries. When I tightened the shoelace, I cried. I was scared, but more than that, I was sad.

It's so sad.

I say to myself, millions of people who lived lives of suffering, died suffering just today. Millions of people are damn unlucky. Today. Then tomorrow, there'll be more.

I'm just one of those people.

I really wanted differently for myself.

 

[PI3.14]

I don't know, if SI is fear of death, then yes.

I'm more worried about my method though. I would have been way less anxious if I were to go via euthanasia.

 

[Nightfoot]

I fear the process of dying and the pain and trauma of the experience. As death is a state of nonexistence, that's kind of scary, too, to try and imagine what it's like to go from life to death.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I fear the process of dying and the pain and trauma of the experience. As death is a state of nonexistence, that's kind of scary, too, to try and imagine what it's like to go from life to death.

Yes Death is non-existence forever . but when you don't exist you can't have any experience ever as before you were born. fear is an anticipation of future suffering. one can only fear or suffer unbearable pain or any suffering while alive and with a working consiuos brain.

plus we all will die anyway . and soon because how fast did this year 2025 pass by , 2 months and it's over 2026. how fast did the last 5 years pass by. i have some kind of renewal i have to do every 2 years and now it's coming up again in jan 2026. i couldn't remember if it had been 2 or 1 year and had to check the date. then i remmeber the exact same thing 2 years ago but it seemed like it had just happened so 4 years seemed like a few week or even days or even a few eye blinks to me

 

[dead dav]

Death what is there to fear you don't remember before you were born only thing that bothers me is a slow death were you slowly loose your facilities

 

[drkptrn]

Death is just a doorway, a transition. We are so much more than these meat suits.

 

[Pfysch]

I'm extremely afraid to die any other way than the one I want; I get intense intrusive thoughts about accidental death. If I die the way I intend to, I have no fear of it.

 

[nullsoul]

저는 죽음이라는 행위가 두렵습니다. 여러 번 죽음 직전까지 갔던 경험이 있기에, 죽음이라는 행위에 수반되는 육체적 고통과 피할 수 없는 두려움(아무리 준비가 되어 있더라도 두려움은 여전히 존재합니다. 인간은 죽음을 두려워하도록 만들어졌고, 자살은 본능에 반하는 행위입니다)을 잘 알고 있습니다. 하지만 저는 다음에 무슨 일이 일어날지 두려워하지 않습니다. 앞서 말했듯이, 죽음 직전까지 갔지만, 그 모든 것은 항상 잊힌 채였습니다. 아무것도 아닙니다. 그저 더 이상 존재하지 않게 되는 것입니다. 제게는 큰 위안이 됩니다. 하지만 죽음에 도달하는 과정은 제가 어떻게 해야 할지 아는 것보다 훨씬 더 어려웠습니다.

the instinctive fear of ctb
What should I do?
I took medication a few months ago to ctb.
I took medication to ctb but my instinctive fear of death came and I was waiting for the ambulance to arrive quickly.
I took medicine because I wanted to die, but I was terrified of ctb.
Even now, when I think about that time, my heart is pounding and my fear at that time feels like it.
Do you have a fear right before ctb?
What can I do to get over it?
I'd like to hear your serious opinions