Are we sure SN is painless?

[Placo]

What information do we have on this matter? Can anyone link survivor threads? Sure there will be some but it would be interesting to address this discussion here once and for all.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

address this discussion here once and for all.

You would think....

Yes, we are sure it is not painless. Honestly there are so many threads on the matter already. I know the sheer amount of information and discussion can be overwhelming and I cannot link any outstanding threads off the top of the head but just type SN in the search bar and see what you find to start with.

 

[andreamysk]

What information do we have on this matter? Can anyone link survivor threads? Sure there will be some but it would be interesting to address this discussion here once and for all.

This thread on the same topic seems quite recent and informative https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/thoughts-on-sn-being-painful.170468/

 

[kinderbueno]

What information do we have on this matter? Can anyone link survivor threads? Sure there will be some but it would be interesting to address this discussion here once and for all.

Well you can vomit which is painful not only physically but also mentally, especially if you have emetophobia (fear of vomiting)

 

[Agon321]

Let everyone know that SN is definitely not painless.
SN is not a substance that guarantees a good night's sleep for everyone.

CTB is the art of compromise.

SN does not usually cause (probably) very much pain, but everyone must expect at least some discomfort.

In some cases, SN is more unpleasant than in others.

It is difficult to answer clearly.

I chose SN because it probably won't be very painful and in my case it's easier to drink the "poison" than, for example, hang yourself.
Of course, other people may consider hanging themselves a better option.

Everyone must also decide what their pain limit is.

For example, I don't consider headaches, nausea, tachycardia, etc. to be a big problem.
If this is a problem for someone, they should think about whether they really want CTB using SN.

There is no golden grail.

SN IS NOT A METHOD THAT GUARANTEES COMPLETE PEACE.

 

[Placo]

Let everyone know that SN is definitely not painless.
SN is not a substance that guarantees a good night's sleep for everyone.

CTB is the art of compromise.

SN does not usually cause (probably) very much pain, but everyone must expect at least some discomfort.

In some cases, SN is more unpleasant than in others.

It is difficult to answer clearly.

I chose SN because it probably won't be very painful and in my case it's easier to drink the "poison" than, for example, hang yourself.
Of course, other people may consider hanging themselves a better option.

Everyone must also decide what their pain limit is.

For example, I don't consider headaches, nausea, tachycardia, etc. to be a big problem.
If this is a problem for someone, they should think about whether they really want CTB using SN.

There is no golden grail.

SN IS NOT A METHOD THAT GUARANTEES COMPLETE PEACE.

Maybe Nembutal is the golden grail.

 

[Agon321]

Maybe Nembutal is the golden grail.

It's definitely better than SN, but getting Nembutal is complicated.

I prefer inert gas, but the configuration is problematic for me.

 

[Someone123]

Based on posts people did while going through the process, when some people get it right it is quite peaceful, but for some people it is very painful, and for some they damage themselves pretty badly without leaving this world, so it is a mix or responses, it takes a lot of research to improve your odds but even then the results seem pretty unpredictable.

 

[Jarni]

Based on posts people did while going through the process, when some people get it right it is quite peaceful, but for some people it is very painful, and for some they damage themselves pretty badly without leaving this world, so it is a mix or responses, it takes a lot of research to improve your odds but even then the results seem pretty unpredictable.

Same conclusions after reading hundreds of posts on SN since 2021. Not my method anymore, unfortunately, only because of this...

 

[yellowjester]

Hell yeah, nother SN fear-mongering thread is EXACTLY what this forum needs right now!

I'm sorry to say this but if 2 minutes of nausea is too much for someone, I have to question how badly they want to leave this world.

 

[AmberianDawn]

I am very concerned about tachycardia and high blood pressure, vomiting and nausea not so much, but the issue related to the heart. Although I have access to benzos, even ketamine (although this also affects the heart, I had some bad episodes with it, so I don't know if I would use it), I am still worried about things related to the heart and tachycardia :(

 

[yellowjester]

and for some they damage themselves pretty badly without leaving this world,

And if you read to the bottom of the thread it always says "I panicked and called the ambulance" or "I used OTC antiemetics" or something along those lines -- can you show me an example where someone executed the method properly and still survived? I have yet to see a single one.

 

[ferrie]

I am very concerned about tachycardia and high blood pressure, vomiting and nausea not so much, but the issue related to the heart. Although I have access to benzos, even ketamine (although this also affects the heart, I had some bad episodes with it, so I don't know if I would use it), I am still worried about things related to the heart and tachycardia :(

Tachycardia isn't painful. I routinely have my heart rate spike to the 180s, and it can cause you to feel panicked if you're not used to it but nothing I would consider actual physical pain. There is a difference between discomfort and pain that seems to be ignored in a lot of threads like this. High blood pressure also isn't normally painful. It can cause headaches and tightness in the chest, but those are less common side effects

 

[Cress]

The truth of the matter is is CTB is a complicated process And people have varying degrees of how much they prepare. The difference in the amount of suffering that we see between the cases is dependent on how much the individual prepared. Not everyone has access to the same level of medication to make Passing away as easy as possible.

With all of that in mind even if you prepare Diligently For a SN CTB Fasting for a long Amount of time and you have every single medication available to you death is still painful it's a very unpleasant experience. I say this with full compassion as a human being from one to another but if you want to leave you do need to accept that you need to endure some amount of discomfort and pain.

One thing that brings me some amount of comfort is everyone is trying to ban SN from being sold to consumers. No one is trying to ban ropes from being sold and that's been a common trending way to take yourself out for many many decades. So I kind of hope that there is something to sn being more effective And a peaceful way to take yourself out.

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

Hell yeah, nother SN fear-mongering thread is EXACTLY what this forum needs right now!

I'm sorry to say this but if 2 minutes of nausea is too much for someone, I have to question how badly they want to leave this world.

2 minutes? Where did you get that info?

 

[yellowjester]

2 minutes? Where did you get that info?

Sorry... 5, 6, 7 minutes... what does it matter?

 

[ijustwishtodie]

In my opinion based from what I've seen on here, I think that SN isn't completely painless but SN is definitely significantly less painful than other suicide methods (excluding nembutal). Vomiting for a few minutes and dealing with the hypoxia effect is extremely nice compared to jumping, drowning etc

 

[Placo]

Hell yeah, nother SN fear-mongering thread is EXACTLY what this forum needs right now!

I'm sorry to say this but if 2 minutes of nausea is too much for someone, I have to question how badly they want to leave this world.

It happens with nearly all methods, even mine was criticized for being too painful.

 

[AmberianDawn]

Tachycardia isn't painful. I routinely have my heart rate spike to the 180s, and it can cause you to feel panicked if you're not used to it but nothing I would consider actual physical pain. There is a difference between discomfort and pain that seems to be ignored in a lot of threads like this. High blood pressure also isn't normally painful. It can cause headaches and tightness in the chest, but those are less common side effects

Yes, it's true, it's not painful but it is very uncomfortable. I usually have high blood pressure and tachycardia, I am used to the symptoms, but I am worried that this same issue will cause me a lot of panic and I will want to abandon the process, I imagine that I will have to be completely sedated to avoid this