Are there any countries that allow euthanasia/aid in dying for people who don't have a fatal disease?

[pup-pup]

Are there any countries that allow euthanasia/aid in dying for people who don't have a fatal disease?

 

[MeowTheFlemishCat]

I'm close to gaining approval for euthanasia for mental illness in Belgium

 

[Octavia]

Canada was close to doing that, but pro-life plebeians throwing a fit resulted in the bill that would have made it possible to be pushed back until March 2024. So close, yet so far.

 

[une vie grotesque]

canada recently passed legistation for maid (medical assistance in dying), you can read the whole thing here

Spoiler: here are some details

To qualify, a person must satisfy all the following criteria

• Be eligible for government-funded health insurance in Canada
• Be 18 years of age or older and have decision-making capacity
• Have a grievous and irremediable condition*
• Have made a voluntary request for MAID that was not a result of external pressure
• Give informed consent to receive MAID after having received all information needed to make this decision, including a medical diagnosis, available forms of treatment, and options to relieve suffering (including palliative care).

* To have a "grievous and irremediable medical condition," a person must:

• Have a serious illness, disease, or disability (excluding a mental illness until March 17, 2023)
• Be in an advanced state of decline that cannot be reversed
• Experience unbearable physical or mental suffering from an illness, disease, disability, or state of decline that cannot be relieved under conditions that the person considers acceptable.

also, you can read the bullet point version with questions and answers here

 

[outrider567]

Are there any countries that allow euthanasia/aid in dying for people who don't have a fatal disease?

Belgium--A woman who murdered her little kids asked to be euthanized and the state agreed, carried out recently

 

[hungry_ghost]

Canada was close to doing that, but pro-life plebeians throwing a fit resulted in the bill that would have made it possible to be pushed back until March 2024. So close, yet so far.

And it's like what is pushing it back going to do?

It's not going to change the fact that people want to die.

These people are so fucking annoying.

They're the first people to tell their ideological opponents to kill themselves, yet when a peaceful method becomes state sanctioned suddenly it's "satanic and barbaric", as opposed to people dying alone in their homes to gruesome methods.

 

[Shadowlord900]

Pegasos Association from Switzerland is said to have more lenient requirements to the point they say on their website you don't even need to have any diagnosed physical illness to be approved... But them saying and actually following up on that statement are two different things. I've heard before of a couple of people here trying to get approval from Pegasos but unfortunately got rejected. So your chances of getting approved at Pegasos are still not very good unless if you're either 50+ or have a terminal illness.

 

[Octavia]

Pegasos Association from Switzerland is said to have more lenient requirements to the point they say on their website you don't even need to have any diagnosed physical illness to be approved... But them saying and actually following up on that statement are two different things. I've heard before of a couple of people here trying to get approval from Pegasos but unfortunately got rejected. So your chances of getting approved at Pegasos are still not very good unless if you're either 50+ or have a terminal illness.

Significant financial resources would probably work too, the Swiss love money.

 

[Shadowlord900]

Significant financial resources would probably work too, the Swiss love money.

I know they ask a lot for the service, but do you think you could bribe them even more into getting them to accept anyone 18+ who's healthy? /jk XD

 

[Octavia]

I know they ask a lot for the service, but do you think you could bribe them even more into getting them to accept anyone 18+ who's healthy? /jk XD

If said 18+ has a lot of money, sure! They turned a blind eye in exchange for Nazi gold in the past, I am certain that they would be happy to make exceptions provided that a little bit of incentive is given.

 

[WaitingToGo]

The Netherlands also allows it, but it's not so easy to have it granted. I'm still going to request it however

 

[ThisIsLife]

I'm close to gaining approval for euthanasia for mental illness in Belgium

Which method would be used if you get approval ?

 

[pup-pup]

Thank you all. I reached out to Pegasos and got hard no. Probably not going to put a bribe in email form.
I hope that the legislation in Canada works out. That would be great.

 

[grvsniper]

Switzerland has a right-to-die organization

 

[RUPA]

Pegasos Association from Switzerland is said to have more lenient requirements to the point they say on their website you don't even need to have any diagnosed physical illness to be approved... But them saying and actually following up on that statement are two different things. I've heard before of a couple of people here trying to get approval from Pegasos but unfortunately got rejected. So your chances of getting approved at Pegasos are still not very good unless if you're either 50+ or have a terminal illness.

I really don't know what their standards are even if Pegasos seems to be more lenient than any other assisted dying organizations,
and applications seem to be handled on a case by case basis.
Especially for the case of two Arizona sisters, it's a mystery how they got approved for VAD as there is no indication of severe medical conditions that are either physical or mental. Basically, it just says they had endured a "troubled" period (they didn't elaborate) and were "tired of life", decided it was "time to go". I'm still baffled. Don't these apply to virtually all SS members?

 

[Shadowlord900]

I really don't know what their standards are even if Pegasos seems to be more lenient than any other assisted dying organizations,
and applications seem to be handled on a case by case basis.
Especially for the case of two Arizona sisters, it's a mystery how they got approved for VAD as there is no indication of severe medical conditions that are either physical or mental. Basically, it just says they had endured a "troubled" period (they didn't elaborate) and were "tired of life", decided it was "time to go". I'm still baffled. Don't these apply to virtually all SS members?

One of the Arizona sisters was 54, the other 49. So yeah seems like over 50 is the magic number. They probably decided to overlook the age of the younger sister because she was only 1 year off from 50 and wanted to CTB alongside with her older sister.

 

[RUPA]

One of the Arizona sisters was 54, the other 49. So yeah seems like over 50 is the magic number. They probably decided to overlook the age of the younger sister because she was only 1 year off from 50 and wanted to CTB alongside with her older sister.

Yeah, I thought their ages had an influence on approval. Then, once one reaches near 50, without any significant conditions or basis there is a high probability of getting approved for VAD?

 

[Shadowlord900]

Yeah, I thought their ages had an influence on approval. Then, once one reaches near 50, without any significant conditions or basis there is a high probability of getting approved for VAD?

Sounds like it.

 

[RichardFirst]

Canada is soon to allow euthanasia for those with mental illness. I believe that it's possible in the Netherlands and in Switzerland, but it's not easy. Normally, it's only offered to terminally ill persons.

 

[death song]

Pretty sure Canada has a residency clause in their law. Most of the states with Euthanasia laws in the U.S. also have residency requirements. Oregon apparently recently dropped their residency requirement but kept the clause that says one must be terminally ill with a diagnosis of six months to live. It seems that many other countries with Euthanasia laws may only cater to their citizens. Switzerland is one obvious exception that I am aware of. Countries such as Colombia, Spain and Australia have right to die laws but I am not sure about their residency requirements.

 

[MeowTheFlemishCat]

Canada was close to doing that, but pro-life plebeians throwing a fit resulted in the bill that would have made it possible to be pushed back until March 2024. So close, yet so far.

Which method would be used if you get approval ?

Some sort of injection. I haven't looked into it as long as it makes the suffering stop forever ...

 

[orca87]

Some sort of injection. I haven't looked into it as long as it makes the suffering stop forever ...

They use N — according to their FAQ

I'm close to gaining approval for euthanasia for mental illness in Belgium

Could you share some details about the process?