Are any of y'all anarchist?

[Not_A_Seagull]

Title, it can be any kind of anarchism from Ancom, ancap, striner, etc

 

[BreakBone2BreakBond]

Yes, I would also argue that unless you're a masochist or you're living in some enlightened Shangri-la where you haven't been detained or had run-ins with the lawman for your suicidality, you must -by virtue of your suicidality- be an anarchist/libertarian too.

 

[Pessimist]

No. Anarchism is an extremist position, and I am not an extremist.

Yes, I would also argue that unless you're a masochist or you're living in some enlightened Shangri-la where you haven't been detained or had run-ins with the lawman for your suicidality, you must -by virtue of your suicidality- be an anarchist/libertarian too.

You're conflating a psychological issue with a political ideology.

 

[MMOSTHATED]

Ancom ig

 

[stopMotionSickness]

I'm kinda confused how so many people agree with it, I keep think I'm just missing something. But I find it pretty difficult to believe that no law enforcement, armies, or rich people would suddenly erase the vices of egoism, violence or greed from the human condition. Furthermore, if we ever did achieve an anarchist state, I have to ask what would stop anyone from conglomerating into a hierarchical society again? Like how do you suppose we got here in the first place, if anarchism is so superior to everything else? Wouldn't we all just be vulnerable to enslavement to the most ruthless accumulator of power?
idk I feel like it ignores some pretty basic realities about people and power.

 

[Pluto]

 

[left0vers]

I'm kinda confused how so many people agree with it, I keep think I'm just missing something. But I find it pretty difficult to believe that no law enforcement, armies, or rich people would suddenly erase the vices of egoism, violence or greed from the human condition. Furthermore, if we ever did achieve an anarchist state, I have to ask what would stop anyone from conglomerating into a hierarchical society again? Like how do you suppose we got here in the first place, if anarchism is so superior to everything else? Wouldn't we all just be vulnerable to enslavement to the most ruthless accumulator of power?
idk I feel like it ignores some pretty basic realities about people and power.

I agree. Who would be preventing violence? Or is everyone supposed to fend for themselves? If not, wouldn't the group in charge of protecting others be indistinguishable from a government?

 

[Hvergelmir]

If not, wouldn't the group in charge of protecting others be indistinguishable from a government?

That's how I think about it. We've always had anarchy, and we built systems on top. Those systems rely on peoples continued participation. In theory, everything the anarchists oppose, exists within the framework of anarchism itself.

 

[yotaka]

Title, it can be any kind of anarchism from Ancom, ancap, striner, etc

I don't like to define myself (or anyone else) in relation to any ideology since people are constantly changing, and I definitely don't know which (if any) ideology is "best." But yeah. If I could choose what kind of society I lived in, I'd choose an anarchist one (excluding anarcho-capitalist, which I think is inherently contradictory).

I'm kinda confused how so many people agree with it, I keep think I'm just missing something. But I find it pretty difficult to believe that no law enforcement, armies, or rich people would suddenly erase the vices of egoism, violence or greed from the human condition. Furthermore, if we ever did achieve an anarchist state, I have to ask what would stop anyone from conglomerating into a hierarchical society again? Like how do you suppose we got here in the first place, if anarchism is so superior to everything else? Wouldn't we all just be vulnerable to enslavement to the most ruthless accumulator of power?
idk I feel like it ignores some pretty basic realities about people and power.

I agree. Who would be preventing violence? Or is everyone supposed to fend for themselves? If not, wouldn't the group in charge of protecting others be indistinguishable from a government?

That's how I think about it. We've always had anarchy, and we built systems on top. Those systems rely on peoples continued participation. In theory, everything the anarchists oppose, exists within the framework of anarchism itself.

I don't want to presume what you are thinking, but it seems to me like the three of you might be conflating anarchy with a state of nature or complete lack of structure/order. I mean, I'm definitely not the spokesperson for anarchism, and I'm not nearly as knowledgeable on the subject as many people, so take this for what it's worth:

My understanding is that anarchism encompasses a diverse school of thought with the common thread of opposing hierarchy. There are lots of proposed ways (some of which have seen real-world implementation) of approaching issues like violence and security. Anarchism doesn't mean lack of organization. The main thing is avoiding the creation of power structures which can (and inevitably will) be taken advantage of.

If you don't mind a bit of reading, this essay puts it better than I can.

(Also, sorry for all the parenthesis).