Anyone you know that would be happy to hear you’ve died?

[Weebster]

Does that make you want to do it less?

 

[lizwuhan]

Maybe! When I was still in school I had a lot of enemies. No, it doesn't make me want to do it less. I'd rather people be happy I'm gone.

 

[Weebster]

Maybe! When I was still in school I had a lot of enemies. No, it doesn't make me want to do it less. I'd rather people be happy I'm gone.

Why would you want people to cheer your death? The thought makes me furious.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

I wish it could be my family. That way they wouldn't have to grieve after I'm gone.
As to your actual question, I don't think anyone would notice.

 

[lizwuhan]

Why would you want people to cheer your death? The thought makes me furious.

Because the alternative would be for them to be very sad. I'd prefer to bring joy to others with my suicide.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

Why would you want people to cheer your death? The thought makes me furious.

They can throw a fuckin party when I'm gone. I will throw one wherever I am that my misery is finally over.

 

[Symbiote]

Fixthe26 lol

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

Fixthe26 lol

I'm sure they wish we all would die. I will stand there and let them put a bullet right through my skull.

 

[Weebster]

Fixthe26 lol

I thought they were against suicide.

 

[JCR]

"For all to be accomplished, for me to feel less lonely, all that remained to hope was that on the day of my execution there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should greet me with cries of hatred" - The Stranger, Albert Camus.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Yeah, I definitely know someone who'd be very happy to hear I've died. He's me.

I'm sure there's also lots of people I've interacted with in real life and maybe even here who wish I was dead and there are also millions of strangers who would be glad I'm dead if they knew what I was really like. Even if they don't know that they would, they still should.

 

[yeh it's all gucci]

I'm sure there's a multitude of people. And no, it doesn't make me want to do it any less.

 

[Weebster]

"For all to be accomplished, for me to feel less lonely, all that remained to hope was that on the day of my execution there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should greet me with cries of hatred" - The Stranger, Albert Camus.

I quoted that here once lol. Are cries of hatred really the same as cries of joy?

I'm sure there's a multitude of people. And no, it doesn't make me want to do it any less.

A multitude? Wow.

Why doesn't it bother you?

 

[its-about-time]

"For all to be accomplished, for me to feel less lonely, all that remained to hope was that on the day of my execution there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should greet me with cries of hatred" - The Stranger, Albert Camus.

I like Camus, and there are some really interesting (and contesting) beliefs about suicide in philosophy. I know the character in The Stranger was executed, but now I'm thinking about Camus lol.

Camus was an absurdist. He believed that the pointless misery of life should be embraced passionately, not run from. Religion, illusions, and yes, suicide, count for him as running from reality. So, he was actually opposed to suicide. For those who aren't familiar, the character in The Stranger is an ultimate example of life happening to you when you have no emotion for life, and trying to come to terms with external entities enacting authority over you. It's neat.

 

[Al_stargate]

Yes, I have quite a few enemies, the result of my dysfunctional upbringing. People that saw me as someone who they can practice their ego on. And they got burned. I know for a fact my demise would be their joy. A reason why I don't want an obituary nor a funeral for that matter. To make em feel like I'm still around. Sad, but that's life.

 

[JCR]

I quoted that here once lol. Are cries of hatred really the same as cries of joy?

I think it's the same idea though I can see how you think there is a distinction. To me happiness due to an individuals death is really just being glad due to a hatred of them.

I like Camus, and there are some really interesting (and contesting) beliefs about suicide in philosophy. I know the character in The Stranger was executed, but now I'm thinking about Camus lol.

Camus was an absurdist. He believed that the pointless misery of life should be embraced passionately, not run from. Religion, illusions, and yes, suicide, count for him as running from reality. So, he was actually opposed to suicide. For those who aren't familiar, the character in The Stranger is an ultimate example of life happening to you when you have no emotion for life, and trying to come to terms with external entities enacting authority over you. It's neat.

I never finished The Myth of Sysiphus despite it's relevence to my situation. I'm not sure what about it exactly but I didn't like the writing style. It might be worth another look. On embracing the absurd: that seems like a bit of a weak, catch all conclusion which is little more sophisticated than hedonism. I don't really take issue with that but it cannot be universally applied to all cases of suicidal inclinations.

 

[Weebster]

Yes, I have quite a few enemies, the result of my dysfunctional upbringing. People that saw me as someone who they can practice their ego on. And they got burned. I know for a fact my demise would be their joy. A reason why I don't want an obituary nor a funeral for that matter. To make em feel like I'm still around. Sad, but that's life.

What did you do or is it just due to how you are?

I think it's the same idea though I can see how you think there is a distinction. To me happiness due to an individuals death is really just being glad due to a hatred of them.



I never finished The Myth of Sysiphus despite it's relevence to my situation. I'm not sure what about it exactly but I didn't like the writing style. It might be worth another look. On embracing the absurd: that seems like a bit of a weak, catch all conclusion which is little more sophisticated than hedonism. I don't really take issue with that but it cannot be universally applied to all cases of suicidal inclinations.

Do you want to be hated in death?

 

[Lost Magic]

In all fairness I couldn't give two fucks about people who will be happy that I'm dead. They will still be miserable fools and I will be dead. I win!

 

[Weebster]

In all fairness I couldn't give two fucks about people who will be happy that I'm dead. They will still be miserable fools and I will be dead. I win!

Great words of wisdom! To celebrate our suicides would say a lot about them.

 

[Al_stargate]

What did you do or is it just due to how you are?

Due to how I was as a kid and teenager. Some saw me as an easy picking for messing with. Most of that I let go and don't hold any grudges, but several people really tried causing damage to my life which didn't go their way, how their ego thought. That I can't forgive. And they will be happy if they found out I'm dead, that way they can feel like they're better then me. But that's life I guess. I haven't harmed anyone or had bad intentions toward anyone in my life.

 

[Ashu]

One ex-girlfriend of long ago. Distant acquaintances wouldn't give much of a shit. My circle of intimates would be devastated.

 

[NormaJeane]

I wish someone wanted me dead so much that he or she would kill me because it is easier to kill someone else than to kill yourself - the body is not created to kill itself.

 

[Lost Magic]

I wish someone wanted me dead so much that he or she would kill me because it is easier to kill someone else than to kill yourself - the body is not created to kill itself.

I thought about that a while ago as well, but if that person killed you very slowly and painfully then that's no good.

 

[ClownMe]

Potentially my mum, especially if she could get her hands on my money. It won't stop me from ctb though, the reality is that I won't be around to see which people do/don't care about my suicide and even if she did get my money she would still be miserable because deep down she is a miserable person, money can't change who you are deep inside.

 

[its-about-time]

I never finished The Myth of Sysiphus despite it's relevence to my situation. I'm not sure what about it exactly but I didn't like the writing style. It might be worth another look. On embracing the absurd: that seems like a bit of a weak, catch all conclusion which is little more sophisticated than hedonism. I don't really take issue with that but it cannot be universally applied to all cases of suicidal inclinations.

I prefer to read or listen to analyses of these works by modern philosophers and lecturers than read the works themselves, in most cases. I would miss out on a lot of the meaning otherwise I think. I relate hard to The Myth of Sysiphus, I'd guess many of us here do. The last lecture on it I listened to, he asked his students if Sysiphus was happy. And you got to think. He's doomed for eternity to repeat this, he could choose to be miserable and hate every moment, or he could choose to be engrossed in the work without paying mind to the outcome, and have "happiness." That's pretty much society in a nutshell, wouldn't you say? But there is something to be said for loving the action without caring for the result. It's the only reliable way to achieve momentary happiness, in my opinion.

I myself don't totally agree with Camus' ideas on suicide, though I see where he's coming from. I spend a lot of time thinking my suffering is quite amusing and even humorous, and it keeps me going. It's close to embracing passionately life's pointless misery. But eventually it stops being funny, the heaviness of reality crashes in, and that's when my death wish really speeds up. I think I'd say the humor in life's misery is just as much an illusion as other things, so Camus kind of is hypocritical there.

 

[fatefulstillness]

I can think of a few, it doesn't change my mind at all. They are neither a part of my life or the reason why I'm ending it. They can think whatever they please.

 

[FuneralCry]

I do not believe so, as I do not know that many people in the first place. I do not care about how others react after I die, as I will not be there to see it. Other peoples opinions do not matter to me. I would hope to be completely forgotten about, I want it to be like I never existed in the first place.

 

[lobster salad]

Does that make you want to do it less?

No it does not make me want to do it less, to know people will be happy that I pass. It only makes me feel sad and useless. No one has made it clear that they will outright celebrate my death but I suspect a lot of people around me, my daily circle I feel most of them will be secretly happy/ relieved because I am truly a rotting burden to everyone . i constantly have the feeling from them that they hate me, they're responses to me, their pitying and complaints towards me.

 

[UselessBeing]

Does that make you want to do it less?

I know for a fact my brother and his wife along with my rapist will jump for joy, which is fine doesnt make me want to not do it.
Ill also be happy so.

 

[guest_0428]

i don't think anyone other than my ex would be happy that i'm gone.
but instead of bringing me comfort that i'm cared for and loved,
it makes me more miserable and guilty that i am this selfish for wanting death for myself.
but ultimately i hope to one day gain that courage and act selfishly and irrationally for once and just do it.
I'd also see myself as a coward, taking the easy way out, as living is harder than dying.