Anyone with open or available SN - Can you weigh a Tablespoon?

[Living sucks]

If anyone has access to SN, and a scale, can you measure a Tablespoon, as in measuring spoon, not eating spoon and tell us what it weighs in grams?

Specifically if you could weigh a level TBSP and a heaping TBSP and tell us what each weighs, that would be great.

This will help for everyone who does not have a scale. And general helpful knowledge.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

This is a great request!

I was thinking earlier that it would be helpful ,if someone had a reliable kitchen scale and measuring spoons, for them to weigh out 25g of SN and then put it in measuring spoons.

Would it be a level tablespoon? If heaping, how heaping? Maybe a tablespoon plus a teaspoon or more? Tightly packed or no?

 

[Living sucks]

It's harder to weigh 25g and transfer to spoons .. so measuring a full spoon then weighing gives you what that spoon full weighs.
Just scoop, level with a knife scraping the top so it's level and dump on scale to weigh. With heaping .. scoop and keep it rounded and weigh. Use a pc of wax paper or something on the scale to transfer back to jar or bag.

 

[Aap]

It's a useful data point, but keep in mind the answer depends on the crystal size.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

It's a useful data point, but keep in mind the answer depends on the crystal size.

As you just said in another thread, it would be helpful to pulverize it first with something like mortar and pestle.

 

[Aap]

If no one else will I'll do it tomorrow.

 

[Living sucks]

If no one else will I'll do it tomorrow.

The only problem i see is that no one is going to pulverize their SN before ctb. So maybe do both unpulverized snd pulverized? Heaping and leveled?

 

[Aap]

This response is why I dislike this thread. I believe in harm reduction. No where else would anyone advocate taking a "handful" of pills or some of this and some of that. Secondly, as evidenced by the other thread, tbsp and tsp are not commonly understood units of measurements. Many will see any recommendations of amounts as applying to a common spoon and go from there.

there might be come misconception that an expensive scale from the weed shop is required. A very inexpensive kitchen scale works just fine, provided it can measure in single grams. The cost of getting an appropriate scale isn't much more than (or much less than in some parts of the world) the cost of SN and can be purchased online. In short, if one can obtain SN, one can obtain a scale.

Rather than do this right with a mortar and pestle, I used a dinner plate and a spoon. Five minutes of grinding, adding very small amounts (trying to do it all at once is a waste of time) yields about 22g per tbsp. Im not going to go more detailed than that, as crystal size and caking vary, and descriptions like "heaping" or "rounded" are fine for cooking, but have no place when lives matter. If someone else wants to do these, then I can't stop anyone. I will though say again that it is irresponsible to give imprecise measurements of a unit of measurement that many around the world don't use.

 

[Living sucks]

No worries. The point behind the thread was to hopefully get better answers for those who aren't going to get a scale or use one. Most households (US) have measuring spoons but not scales. (Ie harm reduction)

your info is very helpful. Not pulverizing the SN would ultimately yield slightly less g's in a TBSP bcuz it takes up more volume.
So a measured TBSP can be described as being somewhere between 17-25g depending on coarseness and can't be accurately defined and using a scale is obviously ideal.

correct me if I'm backwards on this .. brain is in meltdown

Thanks for doing it.

 

[rhiino]

Most households have measuring spoons but not scales. (Ie harm reduction)

Really? I never heard of measuring spoons and everybody here has a scale, at least a mechanical one but most of the times a digital kitchen scale.

 

[Living sucks]

Really? I never heard of measuring spoons and everybody here has a scale, at least a mechanical one but most of the times a digital kitchen scale.

I'll revise it.. that's US.

 

[Aap]

This is my point, as most users here aren't from Liberia or Myanmar. It is a US centric unit that even many in the US don't appreciate unless they cook or are in a field requiring knowledge of certain units.

I can't really come up with a cogent reason why "get a scale" isn't the response given by default.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I can't really come up with a cogent reason why "get a scale" isn't the response given by default.

Here's a cogent reason. Many members are from the US and don't have a clue how to use a kitchen scale. But they can go to the grocery store and buy a measuring spoon.

US members aren't demanding the rest of the world do as we do, we're trying to work with the tools that we have. Back in the 70s, our government chose to not go metric. But we're not pissing all over the forum like imperial rulers, or like we're traveling the world and expecting everyone to cater to our Americanness. We're just trying to work with what we know and what we have.

Here's what I'm thinking and feeling. I don't expect you to take it on. In my observation, since you first posted on this thread, you made it clear you weren't motivated to do the experiment. No one made you. And you've made it clear since you did that you're not happy about it and don't agree with it, and you dislike the thread period. It just feels like spreading negativity all over when the thread was innocuous and, frankly, I was very interested in it even if you're not. So if it's against your principles, you have the ability to delete the post with the measurements. If no one else steps up to do it, it's no big deal.

 

[Aap]

I vigorously disagree that someone who can write as eloquently as yourself cannot master a kitchen scale that works the same as a digital bathroom scale. You turn it on and pour something in a container on it until the number reads 25g. If I could give a round answer that was precise using the measuring spoons (that you can grab in the same aisle at the grocery store as the digital scale itself) I would. Unfortunately, it can't be done in a manner that encompasses any potential SN quality that is obtained.

I believe you may have been the one, and I apologize if not, who mentioned that 1 tbsp gave varying readings on different scales. This is my point exactly. Your experience in the US may be different than mine, but asking most people to convert tsp or tbsp to ounces (or especially weights) is usually met with less than certain responses.

Asking how many teaspoons do I use is the same as asking "how many mls of liquid pentobarbital do I drink" or "how many pills of unknown amount an opiate do I take." I also am not sure why you are being testy; I gave an answer to the 1 tbsp and how I arrived there. I said I didn't like the thread due to a specific response that said the user wouldn't follow a manner described to normalize the results and add reliability and repeatability. I gave an answer because you asked for it; I'm surprised at the hostility.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I believe you may have been the one, and I apologize if not, who mentioned that 1 tbsp gave varying readings on different scales.

That was not me.

 

[Aap]

The point still holds. A tablespoon of different SN will weigh different amounts. When people are concerned about consuming at least 20 grams but not 30, then accuracy counts. You can get there by getting a scale or, less optimally, by making it a fine powder. Even with a powder electrostatic interactions and humidity will screw with the results.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I vigorously disagree that someone who can write as eloquently as yourself cannot master a kitchen scale that works the same as a digital bathroom scale.

I didn't say that I couldn't.

 

[Walilamdzi]

Kind of possible to work out from Google I think, 1 tablespoon (tbsp) of granulated sugar equals to 12.5998 grams (g) in granulated sugar mass. Salt is same kind of weight as sugar, so 2 tbsp would be 25g.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Kind of possible to work out from Google I think, 1 tablespoon (tbsp) of granulated sugar equals to 12.5998 grams (g) in granulated sugar mass. Salt is same kind of weight as sugar, so 2 tbsp would be 24g.

I get what you're saying, but SN doesn't have the same weight as salt. There's been a lot of speculation on the forum about this, and so the point of the thread was to try to end the speculation.

 

[Aap]

you have just estimated the volume of granulated table sugar needed to make 25g. your answer is off by 50-70% for a particular batch of SN.

 

[Walilamdzi]

I get what you're saying, but SN doesn't have the same weight as salt. There's been a lot of speculation on the forum about this, and so the point of the thread was to try to end the speculation.

Really? Does it have the same consistency as something like bicarb? It looks like a salt from pictures.

 

[Living sucks]

Really? Does it have the same consistency as something like bicarb? It looks like a salt from pictures.

But even a tbsp table salt can weigh different grams than a tbsp of sea salt which is why i asked for SN specifically to be weighed. I understand that not all SN is identical in coarseness so it can vary as well. The point of the thread was to get an idea... however, I know that most likely no one is going to pulverize SN prior to weighing since it will just be dissolved, so I wanted an estimate for unpulverized SN.

I wanted to see how far off or how close a measured TBSP was to 25g. That's all

in my situation I don't have access to a scale and will also most likely have to use an eating spoon however I'm very good at estimating based on eyesight. And understanding the volumes of the spoons
This was helpful .

 

[Aap]

Eh Justin Wilson could do it with his hand. Go luck with the eating spoons.

 

[Walilamdzi]

Ahhh okay. I'm no chemist so just presumed they were a similar enough mass. No idea then.

 

[Living sucks]

Eh Justin Wilson could do it with his hand. Go luck with the eating spoons.

Thanks . You don't understand the horrific situation I'm in.. so I hope that's not meant to be sarcastic and make fun of me.
Im 90% bedridden so I also have to ask someone to bring me the spoon and glass to mix it with. If I ask for a measuring spoon in my bed, the caregiver will ask, why.

 

[Aap]

Not at all. I assumed someone in this thread knew who that was. He could easily measure salt in his hand. I wish you the best.

 

[garbagemonkey]

 

[autumnal]

@Aap, agree with your points wholeheartedly. Perhaps you/we should create an SN measurement/weighing guide and get it added to the Resource Compilation?

 

[Aap]

I don't know what there is to add other than to say the amount is likely between 3 and 4 teaspoons if you are shooting for close to 20 and less than 30. That would put you in the range usually, provided a teaspoon is used and not a generic spoon. Estimating using table salt is about as good as one will do if the SN has similar crystal size. I don't have a clue what a Generic spoon holds; maybe others do. I do know many of the impulsive SN posters don't seem to either.

 

[Living sucks]

The thread helped ... I knew it would not be definitive and exact. It was a question I could not answer myself because of the reasons i already mentioned.