Discussion Anyone saw this interview regarding this website?

[Darkhaven]

 

[Daniela]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...ne-committed-suicide.17031/page-6#post-330672

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/a-thorough-story-on-shawn-shatto.19958/page-5#post-379611

 

[Wreck-it-Riley]

first mention of the website is at 6 mins. They really dont seem to understand how it works, a very emotional tale.

They dont want to protect children. its not the websites fault, its the situation she is in. nobody understands that help doesnt help the way they think. like just calling a helpline makes shit better?

 

[TheGoodGuy]

'Suicide prevention' is so fucked up, the reason people want to die is because they are suffering so by preventing their suicide you are really just prolonging their pain and suffering.

 

[CrushedHopes]

It is important to remember that not everyone that signs up on SS ends up dying - that's what the mainstream media doesn't get. Some members have left SS alive, feeling better than before. I'd say that we are doing better than those psychiatrists in that regard. Whether you choose life or death, your words won't fall on deaf ears.

We are pro-choice, and we do not cast judgement over your predicaments. Whether you want to vent or find methods to end it all - we are here for all that.

Sometimes, there's just no way out of a difficult situation - it would be better to just die and get it over with. Not every problem has a solution. "Don't give up" should only be said to those that are experiencing problems that *do* have solutions. There's a big difference.

 

[Neverod]

Very selfish, just wishing to keep someone alive for your pleasure, and not understanding the other's feelings and thoughts, like a close person to you should.

 

[CrushedHopes]

Very selfish, just wishing to keep someone alive for your pleasure, and not understanding the other's feelings and thoughts, like a close person to you should.

INB4 "You're suffering? So what? You should just get over it already!" >_>

 

[Neverod]

INB4 "You're suffering? So what? You should just get over it already!" >_>

Ahh, the classic, a punch in the face would be better lmao

 

[Tired_M]

Thanks to this website I had, yes, more information about the method I chose, but also encouragement and support to try medication and therapy. And here I am, trying. Also I was able to read stories from people who went through similar things than I did. But people always focus on the negative parts of everything.

Anyway, I wish people could understand how life can be unbearable sometimes. Many of us just want peace. And they want to achieve it painlessly. Or just someone to talk to, and that will actually listen to them, understand them. What's wrong with that?

 

[Throwawaysoul]

Anyone have any antiemetics? Vertical video makes me sick.

Two Karen's clucking.

"She was in her room, I text messaged her" Communication was strong in that family.

 

[CrushedHopes]

Anyway, I wish people could understand how life can be unbearable sometimes. Many of us just want peace. And they want to achieve it painlessly. Or just someone to talk to, and that will actually listen to them, understand them. What's wrong with that?

Not only is there nothing wrong with that, but I'd like to think that the fact that people are actually willing to listen is beneficial to SS members as well. In the real world, any mention of "suicide" gets you labeled as "mentally unstable" and "you need help" immediately. You think throwing someone in the psych ward is somehow going to help them? Hell no..... it's more beneficial to talk to like minded people about it. Takes one to know one.

 

[Crystal Labeija]

I don't judge this family for their grief. Anyone who is blaming the Mom for her daughter's suicide is just...wrong.

 

[CrushedHopes]

What I DO find a problem with is the demonization of SS. An adult should have the right to decide when to end their own life. Yes, you *should* exhaust all of your options first, but if your predicament is clearly and undeniably hopeless, or your health problems are so severe that you're literally suffering every day, then you should just end it all. For a lot of us, death is our true salvation. Being forced to live a crappy life that we don't even enjoy..... achieves what, exactly?

 

[Darkhaven]

The biggest problem i see there is how she says that this site took her "baby".
The thing is she wasn't a baby. She was a fully grown woman at the age of 25 and she made a decision.
A painful decision for the family but it still deserves respect.
They seem like decent people and i actually feel bad for them. I don't agree with how they and the media have spinned the facts to their favor and i don't agree with their pro life views, but i don't resent them.

 

[omoidarui]

Sylvia Moss' credibility committed suicide in this interview r.i.p

 

[CrushedHopes]

Life has ups and downs - the mainstream media wants you to believe that you won't always stay down, and that there is always a way...... which is utter bullcrap. Some predicaments are so bad that nobody but other suicidal people would understand. What the hell do they know? You aren't even allowed to freely talk about suicide and your reasons for wanting to do it without the risk of being detained!

Suicide isn't cowardice - it's a release from the torment, pain and suffering.

 

[Wreck-it-Riley]

The whole thing just made me feel like they were the kind of parents who say "We feed you and buy you clothing, you have nothing to be sad about" no objective truth that maybe she was in pain and you were not listening. They all make sure to mention its not her fault at all numerious times. But there is always some fault.

 

[CrushedHopes]

The whole thing just made me feel like they were the kind of parents who say "We feed you and buy you clothing, you have nothing to be sad about" no objective truth that maybe she was in pain and you were not listening. They all make sure to mention its not her fault at all numerious times. But there is always some fault.

Basic necessities do not guarantee happiness. Heck, even materialistic wealth does not guarantee happiness. From what I could see in Shawn's post history, she wanted to die because she was sick of it all - she hated her job, she hated life, and she hated the world.

So, she terminated herself so she wouldn't have to continue suffering. It was her choice. A hurtful choice that damaged her parents, but a personal choice she made as an adult, nonetheless.

 

[SuicidalSymphonies]

Yup, we target the depressed, we don't care about kids and we don't even have a recovery section!

I do feel bad for the family, of course. They lost their daughter. However, lying through your teeth about how SS operates is not okay at all. No matter how upset you are, your daughter found this website on her own, for a REASON.

Bet you'd have found her hanging or OD'd on pills if she never used SN. At least she didn't suffer. She wanted to die. It doesn't sound like her parents really understood her and why she chose that path.

 

[CrushedHopes]

Bet you'd have found her hanging or OD'd on pills if she never used SN. At least she didn't suffer. She wanted to die. It doesn't sound like her parents really understood her and why she chose that path.

They really don't. Shawn hated her life. So she ended it. She made that choice all on her own. I highly doubt my parents would understand why I am choosing to CTB, too.

 

[Realist101]

If someone cares about another person, why would they want to force that person to continue living when life is causing them so much suffering? If you really love someone, you have to be willing to let them go... I don't understand the obsession with having ownership over other people. That's not love.

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

Sylvia Moss' credibility committed suicide in this interview r.i.p

Who is Sylvia Moss?

 

[SuicidalSymphonies]

They really don't. Shawn hated her life. So she ended it. She made that choice all on her own. I highly doubt my parents would understand why I am choosing to CTB, too.

The whole thing about how the site bans them from existence... Oh my god. What? A lot self ban and some are banned because they DIED. It's so nobody can replace them and take their name. They aren't completely and utterly removed. Just a name with a line through it and greyed out. And if they fail an attempt, or would like to come back for other reasons, they're free to ask for a ban release.

You'd think they'd actually really look into how SS is if they were that upset over her. They didn't even mention what's good about it. Too bad, I suppose.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

I'm close to being homeless so if they want to arrest me and throw me in prison for the crimes of being in pain and wanting out of life, and agreeing with others who assert their decision-making autonomy, so be it. Let them clothe and feed and house me 'til I drop dead. Hopefully much sooner than later. Otherwise, to h-e-doublehockeysticks with these hypocrites who can't guarantee an end to others' pain, who vote for policies that make others' lives far harder, but who nonetheless want to prevent people from doing with our own lives as we see fit. There is nothing I feel more strongly than that every (adult) person should be entitled to an affordable, painless, medically competent, peaceful exit when we choose. We aren't the property of the state and certainly don't belong to other humans. If they can't understand that, that's not my problem.

 

[Are you lost too?]

I'm close to being homeless so if they want to arrest me and throw me in prison for the crimes of being in pain and wanting out of life, and agreeing with others who assert their decision-making autonomy, so be it. Let them clothe and feed and house me 'til I drop dead. Hopefully much sooner than later. Otherwise, to h-e-doublehockeysticks with these hypocrites who can't guarantee an end to others' pain, who vote for policies that make others' lives far harder, but who nonetheless want to prevent people from doing with our own lives as we see fit. There is nothing I feel more strongly than that every (adult) person should be entitled to an affordable, painless, medically competent, peaceful exit when we choose. We aren't the property of the state and certainly don't belong to other humans. If they can't understand that, that's not my problem.

im really sorry you are going through this.

And your words really touched me, very truthful. Especially the part of us not being property of the state nor of others humans. I'm even thinking of using that in my note, if you don't mind ofc.

 

[MeltingHeart]

INB4 "You're suffering? So what? You should just get over it already!" >_>

What INB4?

 

[justwhy?]

The media lies, as a matter of course. Proper investigation and impartial reporting hasn't existed in decades, particularly since media ownership is now so concentrated. Most of the online communities and movements i've been involved with (or just followed) have been slandered and defamed.

Truth doesn't even exist as far as the people in charge are concerned, only agenda serving perspectives. The world at large (at least the west) is increasingly built on stacks of lies. Those who tell the truth are marginalised at best, persecuted at worst. So I'm unsurprised that SS gets treated this way.

 

[Reyki6667]

Most of these people never went to hospital wings with dying people tortured by their illness and forced to stay alive crying they want it to end while knowing there is no hope.
All these because people are so freaking damn selfish to not let these people Die in peace and dignity.
None want a wretched agonizing death w
Filled with meaningless suffering.
Selfish perverted obnoxious fucktards self entitled good people doing justice.
And this is a reminder. We are all mortals.


Add to that the "help services" "are filled with hypocrites denying suicide as a solution while not giving any proper one nor guiding you through it during your life, or being responsibized for their madness.

Self entitled good Samaritans.....

Geez this world is mad.

 

[itistimetoleave]

What is the Shawn story? I am new here, can anyone shed some light?

 

[C_F]

What is the Shawn story? I am new here, can anyone shed some light?

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/a-thorough-story-on-shawn-shatto.19958/