Ivenocare

Ivenocare

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One of my biggest fears is punishment after death or reincarnation; but I also put those two together. I find comfort in nothingness but fear in the moment of dying of such. Even if it seems irrational, one cannot truly know what is after death, so throwing away the idea doesn't work to well for me either.
 
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Jean Améry

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Listen to Nassim Haramein, physicist who talks that's consciousness is the foundation for reality. And look into Pantheism about all mater all atoms being conscious. So no fairy tales, just science bitch.

Regardless of whether you're right or not (I don't think so) leave the insults out of it or you will be reported and possibly banned.
 
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One of my biggest fears is punishment after death or reincarnation; but I also put those two together. I find comfort in nothingness but fear in the moment of dying of such. Even if it seems irrational, one cannot truly know what is after death, so throwing away the idea doesn't work to well for me either.

The thing is that we have absolutely no reason to believe there is a reward or punishment after that, no more that we have any reason to believe that there is a pink cat goddess named ramses who hugs you for eternity once you're dead.

(Also, knowing that free-will is a specious concept, and that it's absurd to suppose justice knowing that we don't even start from the same conditions : some are rich and attractive, some ugly and poor and depressed, how the fuck could there be any justice if they are judged based on the same moral framework ? even if there was a punishment it wouldn't be a moral punishment, but just pure sadism from a god, it makes no sense)

Anyway, we have 0 reason to believe that versus any other affabulation the mind can comes up with.

Now you may ask, why don't you apply this reasoning to your own theory ? Well i'm applying it, that's the thing, and we have EVIDENCE that we can come to life from nothing : for we are alive now, that's the evidence, the only evidence we have and the most sure of all evidences, there is nothing we can be sure about except "I exist" (whatever the "I" is, even if it's just a blip, there is a perspective, something it feels like to be, to experience )
Regardless of whether you're right or not (I don't think so) leave the insults out of it or you will be reported and possibly banned.

I don't think he meant it as an insult, it's a quote from Breaking Bad. (more of a common misquote)
 
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The thing is that we have absolutely no reason to believe there is a reward or punishment after that, no more that we have any reason to believe that there is a pink cat goddess named ramses who hugs you for eternity once you're dead.

(Also, knowing that free-will is a specious concept, and that it's absurd to suppose justice knowing that we don't even start from the same conditions : some are rich and attractive, some ugly and poor and depressed, how the fuck could there be any justice if they are judged based on the same moral framework ? even if there was a punishment it wouldn't be a moral punishment, but just pure sadism from a god, it makes no sense)

Anyway, we have 0 reason to believe that versus any other affabulation the mind can comes up with.

Now you may ask, why don't you apply this reasoning to your own theory ? Well i'm applying it, that's the thing, and we have EVIDENCE that we can come to life from nothing : for we are alive now, that's the evidence, the only evidence we have and the most sure of all evidences, there is nothing we can be sure about except "I exist" (whatever the "I" is, even if it's just a blip, there is a perspective, something it feels like to be, to experience )


I don't think he meant it as an insult, it's a quote from Breaking Bad.
I very much so agree; for the most part it sounds ridiculous to be judged for the same thing not including: enviorment/ culture and genetics/ brain chemicals; I just dont like stating I know; and because of this emotion leads to anxiety of judgement, but honestly if there was an afterlife I dont thing the God would care because IF he is there then he would know how the brain functions and it influences.
 
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