Help Anyone have recent experience with SN from BO? (BM brand)

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Hi
I'll try to be brief, apologies. My brain tho
I purchased SN from DMC at the start of the year but am looking into getting a backup source (various reasons, mostly anxiety & storage related). It's "probably" fine & I could reorder from DMC but was looking at alternatives.
I had previously emailed BO about their product & they confirmed they ship to my country but won't lie on the packaging.
I looked & they had BM in stock in 500gram jars (I think, it was a few days ago & have no memory).
I was wondering if anyone knew roughly how big a package that would be, if they've ordered similar? Or if they received the 1 kilo, what half of that would look like?
My big three questions are:
1 - is it likely to fit in a letterbox?
2 - did you have to sign for it?
3 - when you open the outside packaging, do you immediately see the blue lid jar with the label of what it is? Or is the jar wrapped in tissue or concealed in any other way?
I live in not great circumstances (omg that's an understatement , it's really not funny...) & I have to ensure my personal safety before I proceed.
I believe that someone I live with would open the outer packaging if it's easy to reseal or make look like it happened in transit. So if it's there to see, I need to know before ordering. I think (hope) that they wouldn't dig any further than that. I only live with adults, no one's safety is at risk, except mine.
I'm reluctant to contact BO again because re-reading my old emails, I was clearly very desperate & not at all subtle about what I wanted & don't want to rock the boat in any way. For me, for them, for anyone else's future access.
I saw @Wilt-On-High post about their recent success receiving from BO & sent them a DM straight away but their deets say they haven't been back to SaSu & their bus may have come.
Any information appreciated.

Not looking for sources / not giving out sources.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Bump

 

[neenie]

I haven't received mine yet (delivery expected on the 31st apparently), still bumping your thread and wishing you peace. I've seen your posts around a bit and I truly feel for you as you're stuck in a horrendous situation, if you need to vent sometime you can shoot me a DM :)

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

I haven't received mine yet (delivery expected on the 31st apparently), still bumping your thread and wishing you peace. I've seen your posts around a bit and I truly feel for you as you're stuck in a horrendous situation, if you need to vent sometime you can shoot me a DM :)

Thank you so much. It's horrific to me that I'm still here, yet here I am. I thought maybe getting a backup source would help with the anxiety- having a cup from new BO & a cup from old DMC. That that might help me finally do this. But am scared to order for fear of consequences, regarding the living situation. Thanks for the bump & if you get a chance, please update once you receive so I've got some idea of what I'm dealing with. I'm sorry that you're here & whatever has led you here. Best of luck

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Self-bump again
If anyone has any information they wish to send to me privately, please do.
If anyone has a legitimate problem with what I've posted above, please report.
If mods wanna delete because it somehow reveals something other than what is widely available to find on this forum, please do.
But best case scenario, some answers, any answers, would be absolutely heaven sent around about now

 

[Wonhun]

What is BO? I am not sure did I find BM. Is it a Turkey company started at 2006?

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

What is BO? I am not sure did I find BM. Is it a Turkey company started at 2006?

I don't give out sources, I'm sorry. But I am not personally referring to anything Turkish. Best of luck to you.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

OK, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear & I'll try again. This post is ME asking for help because I need it & anyone that can help, please do.
I do not give out sources so please don't ask, I just say no...
I found BO solely from clues here, as I found other sources. Please search as much as you can or ask people who are willing to give out sources.
I have given an outstanding amount of help to an outstanding amount of people, in areas that I feel comfortable or personally experienced enough. I have given back relentlessly, as much as I can, as often as I can to the SaSu community.
That doesn't extend to sources. Never has, never will. I apologise for that but will not change it, either.
So if anyone can help me with my questions, rather than asking me more, that would be super amazing & the entire point of me asking for help in the first place.
Best of luck to all - I understand the frustration & desperation, I really do but persistence will get you the sources, not me personally.
I feel like such an asshole now....

 

[Wonhun]

I think I found BM but no clue what the BO is about. They do match up with how people describe it but it seems to be way too cheap from DMC (around 10-20times?).
But it does not said BM does not offer international shipment directly as other said and what is the refund thing they talk about?

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

I don't have any answers for you, sorry. I am looking at BO specifically so I really don't know anything about what you're looking at. And I won't give out the details I have for BO, sorry.
I'm really still hoping for actual answers for me, for my questions, for this thread.
So I appreciate the bump, but I can't help you with your questions. Best of luck to you.

 

[coffeebeany]

Hi
I'll try to be brief, apologies. My brain tho
I purchased SN from DMC at the start of the year but am looking into getting a backup source (various reasons, mostly anxiety & storage related). It's "probably" fine & I could reorder from DMC but was looking at alternatives.
I had previously emailed BO about their product & they confirmed they ship to my country but won't lie on the packaging.
I looked & they had BM in stock in 500gram jars (I think, it was a few days ago & have no memory).
I was wondering if anyone knew roughly how big a package that would be, if they've ordered similar? Or if they received the 1 kilo, what half of that would look like?
My big three questions are:
1 - is it likely to fit in a letterbox?
2 - did you have to sign for it?
3 - when you open the outside packaging, do you immediately see the blue lid jar with the label of what it is? Or is the jar wrapped in tissue or concealed in any other way?
I live in not great circumstances (omg that's an understatement , it's really not funny...) & I have to ensure my personal safety before I proceed.
I believe that someone I live with would open the outer packaging if it's easy to reseal or make look like it happened in transit. So if it's there to see, I need to know before ordering. I think (hope) that they wouldn't dig any further than that. I only live with adults, no one's safety is at risk, except mine.
I'm reluctant to contact BO again because re-reading my old emails, I was clearly very desperate & not at all subtle about what I wanted & don't want to rock the boat in any way. For me, for them, for anyone else's future access.
I saw @Wilt-On-High post about their recent success receiving from BO & sent them a DM straight away but their deets say they haven't been back to SaSu & their bus may have come.
Any information appreciated.

Not looking for sources / not giving out sources.

I got BM from BO. The package definitely did not fit into a letter box. When I opened the package the bottles and label were instantly visible. I don't know about the customs of your countries postal service. I did not have to sign anything but the postman had to ring the bell to hand it over.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

I got BM from BO. The package definitely did not fit into a letter box. When I opened the package the bottles and label were instantly visible. I don't know about the customs of your countries postal service. I did not have to sign anything but the postman had to ring the bell to hand it over.

Thank you so, so much.
I really appreciate this.
If I thought it wasn't a giant red flag that would endanger the seller, the brand, the method, future bus-catchers in need, I'd ask them to wrap in tissue paper or something. Not lie, not mislabel, just an extra layer of wrapping. But no way of doing that without it being an issue so I've either gotta proceed with giant caution or abandon the idea altogether. It's an unpredictable situation so I have to be smart or stop. I don't have any other backup sources I trust (I have the details of a couple of places that I'm not entirely sure about). I could reorder from DMC. I could use what I have. I could research other sellers but honestly, I found that process so overwhelming, I went with DMC because it was easy & safe. And I almost got burned handing over cash to a fake lab when I first joined here, so I have some trust issues too.
Sorry for ramble, my brain is what it is, not what I want it to be, need it to be.
I appreciate the time & patience you spared for me.

 

[coffeebeany]

Thank you so, so much.
I really appreciate this.
If I thought it wasn't a giant red flag that would endanger the seller, the brand, the method, future bus-catchers in need, I'd ask them to wrap in tissue paper or something. Not lie, not mislabel, just an extra layer of wrapping. But no way of doing that without it being an issue so I've either gotta proceed with giant caution or abandon the idea altogether. It's an unpredictable situation so I have to be smart or stop. I don't have any other backup sources I trust (I have the details of a couple of places that I'm not entirely sure about). I could reorder from DMC. I could use what I have. I could research other sellers but honestly, I found that process so overwhelming, I went with DMC because it was easy & safe. And I almost got burned handing over cash to a fake lab when I first joined here, so I have some trust issues too.
Sorry for ramble, my brain is what it is, not what I want it to be, need it to be.
I appreciate the time & patience you spared for me.

Yeah I get that. Not an ideal situation. Maybe just to add, I tested the SN for purity (both aquarium test and blood test) and it looked fine. Both tests seemed to show its high purity.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Yeah I get that. Not an ideal situation. Maybe just to add, I tested the SN for purity (both aquarium test and blood test) and it looked fine. Both tests seemed to show its high purity.

Thanks so much.
I tested my DMC with both aquarium & blood & was happy with it. I had planned to use it ASAP & didn't store as well as I should've, plus under ordered in the first place (I think their minimum quantity has changed since I ordered). And if i get from BO, I'll test that too. And probably retest the DMC at the same time. My original aquarium test & blood test was exactly like all the photos. I know in the resources, it says SN degrades over time with exposure to the elements & that that degradation isn't visible to the eye - I can't remember if they just meant looking at the SN or if they meant that it wouldn't show up on the tests as well????? I was confident with it when I got it & tested it, just not the best storage...
If the degradation shows up on the aquarium test, that would be an easy solution - just test to see if still good. But I've forgotten more than I remembered here & have all my stuff hidden away so ridiculously, it's actually hard to get to & look at. And no time or privacy. But I'll have to look into that & make a decision about BO. I cannot believe I'm seeing in the new year, that is just so, so wrong to me. I really fucked this up...
Happy new year to you, (if it is a happy new year to you...) & thanks again.

 

[coffeebeany]

Thanks so much.
I tested my DMC with both aquarium & blood & was happy with it. I had planned to use it ASAP & didn't store as well as I should've, plus under ordered in the first place (I think their minimum quantity has changed since I ordered). And if i get from BO, I'll test that too. And probably retest the DMC at the same time. My original aquarium test & blood test was exactly like all the photos. I know in the resources, it says SN degrades over time with exposure to the elements & that that degradation isn't visible to the eye - I can't remember if they just meant looking at the SN or if they meant that it wouldn't show up on the tests as well????? I was confident with it when I got it & tested it, just not the best storage...
If the degradation shows up on the aquarium test, that would be an easy solution - just test to see if still good. But I've forgotten more than I remembered here & have all my stuff hidden away so ridiculously, it's actually hard to get to & look at. And no time or privacy. But I'll have to look into that & make a decision about BO. I cannot believe I'm seeing in the new year, that is just so, so wrong to me. I really fucked this up...
Happy new year to you, (if it is a happy new year to you...) & thanks again.

Yeah, that must cause insecurity about the dmc product. Sometimes plans are messy or we do things that turn out to have complicated a situation or plan. But we all do that. I m just sorry that you are in such an unsafe environment and struggle so much. I'd say if you go through with ordering something new like BO, order 2 bottles, test one of them and then just use the sealed product for your actual plan. I m no chemist so I don't know about the degradation of the product or what tests can show. But with the new product (if pure) you should be safe.
Again, I know about your living situation and hope you can get a way to get what you want.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Yeah, that must cause insecurity about the dmc product. Sometimes plans are messy or we do things that turn out to have complicated a situation or plan. But we all do that. I m just sorry that you are in such an unsafe environment and struggle so much. I'd say if you go through with ordering something new like BO, order 2 bottles, test one of them and then just use the sealed product for your actual plan. I m no chemist so I don't know about the degradation of the product or what tests can show. But with the new product (if pure) you should be safe.
Again, I know about your living situation and hope you can get a way to get what you want.

Thank you so much.
I wanted to CTB before life is what it's like now & it's really only a part of the problem - I'm mostly unfazed by it, I just hate how it's interfering with this process. I've said it before, sorry, but if he didn't exist at all & I won lotto, I still want & need a bus outta here. Just one shitty reason in a sea of shitty reasons. I'm also quite unfazed by that. I wish I was gone already though, that's the one thing that just fucks with me, to my core. I've gotta accept it though & make plans to change it & just move forward with what I can, when I can.
I envy the people who are quicker at this & better at this & that's a really strange feeling. Thanks so much for your help. I don't know what I'd do without SaSu....