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Ta555

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Hello! Just wondering if anyone has any experience with passing out or at least getting very drowsy using benzos or sleeping pills. I've got Klonopin/Clonazepam, a few Ativan/lorazepam and some zopiclone. I want to have my set up ready and then take something that will make me pass out or at least make me drowsy enough so that I'm not fully aware of the process as it's happening. I don't have tolerance for any of these meds. Have only taken minimal doses occasionally. Does anyone have any experience of how long it takes to pass out or get sleepy and with how much? If you've had success with other substances please let me know.
disclaimer: Not looking for ctb instructions just personal experience stories :)
 
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I take temazepam every now and then for sleeping. Sometimes 20 mg does almost nothing, just a little bit drowsy and lightheaded. This is when I'm very anxious and stressed. Other times it works really well, when my anxiety and stress isn't too bad. It takes about 30 minutes for the effects to start. I wouldn't say 20 mgs 'knocks me out'.

When I was super anxious I took 4x20 mg once. I guess that knocked me out relatively quickly. Don't know how long before I was asleep. It was necessary because I wasn't sleeping at all. Just a complete mess. But in that state I managed to sleep for three hours on the 80mg of temazepam. After which I woke up in a panic and couldn't sleep anymore.

The medications you have are better for getting to sleep than temazepam. I found this chart on reddit;

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Ta555

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I take temazepam every now and then for sleeping. Sometimes 20 mg does almost nothing, just a little bit drowsy and lightheaded. This is when I'm very anxious and stressed. Other times it works really well, when my anxiety and stress isn't too bad. It takes about 30 minutes for the effects to start. I wouldn't say 20 mgs 'knocks me out'.

When I was super anxious I took 4x20 mg once. I guess that knocked me out relatively quickly. Don't know how long before I was asleep. It was necessary because I wasn't sleeping at all. Just a complete mess. But in that state I managed to sleep for three hours on the 80mg of temazepam. After which I woke up in a panic and couldn't sleep anymore.

The medications you have are better for getting to sleep than temazepam. I found this chart on reddit;

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Hope this helps.
Thanks! That is a useful chart!
 
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TooConscious

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I am a benzo addict, I am alcoholic and since quitting alcohol and having a difficult time I consciously allowed myself to use benzos knowing the massive addiction potential.

So I have plenty of experience with them....
I will first say we are all different.

Its pretty common knowledge that for most people combining downers with downers alcohol benzo, opium- Benzo.

I have taken upward of 200mg (yes legitimate blue 10mg tablets 20 of them or 40 5mg yellows) of diazepam. On many occasions and its they most definitely make me sleep but it's still been possible for other people to bring me round to a state of 'awake'.
Unless you combine them with anti psycotics or hypnotics (in my experience) etc they don't just knock you out even in massive doses.
 
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Cetirizine is basically my 'sleeping pills'. So i expect drowsiness for hours with benzos and the likes.
 
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I take a combination of tablets at night to make me sleep.

350mg Quetiapine
225mg pregabalin
40mg amitriptiline

Most nights works good, sometimes an off day where I'm really anxious I have to take 50mg more pregabalin and 40mg propranolol
 
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Ta555

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I am a benzo addict, I am alcoholic and since quitting alcohol and having a difficult time I consciously allowed myself to use benzos knowing the massive addiction potential.

So I have plenty of experience with them....
I will first say we are all different.

Its pretty common knowledge that for most people combining downers with downers alcohol benzo, opium- Benzo.

I have taken upward of 200mg (yes legitimate blue 10mg tablets 20 of them or 40 5mg yellows) of diazepam. On many occasions and its they most definitely make me sleep but it's still been possible for other people to bring me round to a state of 'awake'.
Unless you combine them with anti psycotics or hypnotics (in my experience) etc they don't just knock you out even in massive doses.
So probably best to go for the zopiclone then for being knocked out 🤔
I take a combination of tablets at night to make me sleep.

350mg Quetiapine
225mg pregabalin
40mg amitriptiline

Most nights works good, sometimes an off day where I'm really anxious I have to take 50mg more pregabalin and 40mg propranolol
Ah I don't have any of those...except amitriptyline but I'm terrified of that stuff. I guess maybe taking one along with zopiclone or something might be ok...
 
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Apathy's Girl

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I take 6mg Lunesta and 4mg of lorazepam for sleep but I still wake up constantly during the night. When I really want to blackout I up my lorazepam to 8mg.
 
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TooConscious

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So probably best to go for the zopiclone then for being knocked out 🤔

Ah I don't have any of those...except amitriptyline but I'm terrified of that stuff. I guess maybe taking one along with zopiclone or something might be ok...
Actually in high doses zopiclone can provide a stimulating effect.
They are a very commonly abused drug in the UK people, mainly heavy drug abusers, often taking 10+ in one. It's bizarre how these thing work.
Take for example a basic drug most ofua with depression know... Mirtazapine... If you say you struggle with sleep they'll lower your dose to 15mg which for some reason has the highest sedating properties when it converts with all the enzymes proteins and others stuff I don't understand.
Finding what sits with your body for the least effort. So you can not be woken for a few hours and when done properly you feel like you've had a really good sleep. Not groggy or craving another drink to kill the hangover. Good luck.
 
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Jul 22, 2021
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Hello! Just wondering if anyone has any experience with passing out or at least getting very drowsy using benzos or sleeping pills. I've got Klonopin/Clonazepam, a few Ativan/lorazepam and some zopiclone. I want to have my set up ready and then take something that will make me pass out or at least make me drowsy enough so that I'm not fully aware of the process as it's happening. I don't have tolerance for any of these meds. Have only taken minimal doses occasionally. Does anyone have any experience of how long it takes to pass out or get sleepy and with how much? If you've had success with other substances please let me know.
disclaimer: Not looking for ctb instructions just personal experience stories :)
Not passing out. Just falling asleep with Zopiclone.
Klonopin has a weird effect on me. Not passing out with those either - just going into a weird Zombie state.
 
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whywere

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I take Hydroxyzine as a sleep aid if I need it. It works better for me than klonopin or Ambien and it is not habit forming.

Walter
 
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Ta555

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Actually in high doses zopiclone can provide a stimulating effect.
They are a very commonly abused drug in the UK people, mainly heavy drug abusers, often taking 10+ in one. It's bizarre how these thing work.
Take for example a basic drug most ofua with depression know... Mirtazapine... If you say you struggle with sleep they'll lower your dose to 15mg which for some reason has the highest sedating properties when it converts with all the enzymes proteins and others stuff I don't understand.
Finding what sits with your body for the least effort. So you can not be woken for a few hours and when done properly you feel like you've had a really good sleep. Not groggy or craving another drink to kill the hangover. Good luck.
Well...I'm hoping to not wake up at all 😅 ok, so too many zopiclone are out then. I can't really experiment beforehand because my brain is already kinda messed up and I don't want to mess it up even further. So good to know that too many zopiclone are a no go. Might just have to combine with a Klonopin or a lorazepam. Thanks for the heads up!
 
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TooConscious

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Well...I'm hoping to not wake up at all 😅 ok, so too many zopiclone are out then. I can't really experiment beforehand because my brain is already kinda messed up and I don't want to mess it up even further. So good to know that too many zopiclone are a no go. Might just have to combine with a Klonopin or a lorazepam. Thanks for the heads up!
Ketamine, that's not been cut I think is great, but again, unfortunately it's getting the dosage right. As you don't want to k-hole and mess up. I myself will be making sure I get some for my way out to relieve anxiety, (train)
Its been over a year because no one will help me learn to use bitcoin, but I was using daily at one point. It's my favorite drug. So a good thing, and I'll find a street dealer.
 

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