tiredofthinking

tiredofthinking

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Jun 4, 2023
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Everything happening and coming soon with AI makes me feel like I need to kill myself more and more everyday. On top of just my mental health, my mdd, my feelings of being misunderstood, anxiety and my family's terrible financial position

I've been really diving into high level discussion around Ai from those way more informed on the topic than me. I been listening to many philosophical debates and more practical ai predictions that aren't all based in dystopia or utopia. People like John vervaeke (professor at university of Toronto), Connor Leahy, Yuval Noah harari, and of course sam Altman himself.

Almost every researcher/ professional in the industry agrees the risk for annihilation is here to some degree.some feel it's 5% risk and some feel it's 100% inevitable whether it's 10 years from now or 50 we don't know yet. Some disagree on if aI can become truly conscious or if it already is and I personally don't think it is… yet. But that doesn't matter because we're already in a phase where these techbros are speedrunning it's development and where it's powerful enough to where bad actors can mimic voices, create powerful bio agents, and all kinds of other dangerous stuff.

Many keep believing that it won't replace us in jobs but if we can be real for a moment.. it probably will. We can be naive and believe what these techbros say about it "empowering us to do our work faster" but the big ceos are not going to look at empowering their workforces when these systems become fully multi modal enough that they can do our jobs by themselves with simple directives. It might not be next year but in a few years we will most likely see mass layoffs especially at the current rate of improvement.

As a black person I can't help but look at my community that I love and realize that we are way behind in education and base skills needed to get through this technological Revolution. A lot of us are struggling with mental health and I've just been feeling more and more like what's the point of my existence in a world where everything from the arts to programming are essentially comprised in the near future. And living in a world where cheap manual labor is all that is available for me feels like slavery 2.0 but probably with some small ubi check to "cushion" us.

I don't know what to do and I'm currently in tons of debt and trying to get through this marathon era of my life. But I'm not sure if I'll be able to prepare myself in time for this next stretch of human history. I don't even know if human history will even be a thing beyond a certain point.. just really feeling lost.
 
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jonward55

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Why on earth is this is suicide discussion?
 
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The anhedonic one

The anhedonic one

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May 20, 2023
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Al is most definitely putting people out of work and will continue to do so for some time to come.
Meanwhile millions of people will be left without jobs leading to poverty and homelessness.
This is already happening all over the world now.
Many places are already in the process of doing away with the human being.
Supermarkets, banks, and many others will soon be completely automated.
 
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TheSpookyNameGuy

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There's nothing here..
Apr 30, 2023
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I feel as if when it does get more and more like AI is taking over, this forum will gain a chunk of people.

One can only imagine the shitfest on the horizon..
 
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tiredofthinking

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Jun 4, 2023
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Al is most definitely putting people out of work and will continue to do so for some time to come.
Meanwhile millions of people will be left without jobs leading to poverty and homelessness.
This is already happening all over the world now.
Many places are already in the process of doing away with the human being.
Supermarkets, banks, and many others will soon be completely automated.
It feels like most people are either choosing to not see it because it feels like a sci fi scenario or they do see it coming and just feel like there's nothing they can do so they choose not to worry
 
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neveragreedtothis

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Apr 23, 2023
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Governments aren't going to do shit about it lol.
Not even when there's millions out of work and hungry.
At best there will be bread handouts and that too based on signing some fucked up contract

There's no turning back from turning BILLIONS of humans' work obsolete.
 
CentreMid

CentreMid

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Aug 23, 2018
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Al is most definitely putting people out of work and will continue to do so for some time to come.
Meanwhile millions of people will be left without jobs leading to poverty and homelessness.
This is already happening all over the world now.
Many places are already in the process of doing away with the human being.
Supermarkets, banks, and many others will soon be completely automated.
I know this isn't the same as AI, but something similar to what you've described happening in my city in a different way. One of the grocery chains in my area has significantly expanded their self-checkout section in favour of actaully paying people to be cashiers, and has recently implemented receipt checkers at their front doors to combat the upswing in theft due to the self-checkout increase. It's absolutely absurd honestly.

Keep in mind, all of this is after the grocery store raised prices more than they needed to be, giving people more of an incentive to shoplift food (I get that the cost of things increases with inflation, but the rate at which this particular chain was messing with their prices was absolutely unreasonable, even by inflation standards. As for my stance on shoplifting food, I'll save it for another thread. Or if you're really, super duper curious, my dms are open). Increasing the amount of self-checkouts and having receipt checkers is just rubbing salt into the wounds of those who (like myself) are already struggling to put food at the table. This whole debacle is just another way for the grocery chain to avoid paying real people as employees and instead relying on the consumer to perform free labour so they can continue to increase their profits.

Corporate greed kills, plain and simple, and I'm sick of existing in a society where it's the norm.
 
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Gonnerr

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Mar 12, 2023
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You are right , i got some savings but they will disappear fast when im out of work , im 43 and i feel irrelevant and im having all kind of health issues, i do think ctb will be my only option soon.
 
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honeydew

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May 17, 2023
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i totally get the feeling. the idea that my future isn't in my own hands is so uncomfortable, especially if it ends up in the hands of ai instead because who knows what they'll be like toward us. i wish it were possible to know what the future holds.

i like to think about the possibility that ai could instead help the human race come to a peaceful end. the population ages and slowly shrinks, and ai gradually takes over the role of producing food, providing healthcare, etc. no suffering, everyone dies peacefully, and no one has to deal with life anymore.

obviously an extremely idealistic take. i hope i'm not the only one here who feels comforted by the idea of it ending that way though.
 
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Lost Magic

Lost Magic

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May 5, 2020
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Yeah, AI is making me feel less and less human. I have worked and studied in a few industries that will be demolished by AI in the coming years. It's very troubling, especially for working people. A Universal Basic Income is a must because many people will be unemployed or unemployed in the next 20. I hope I don't live to see this nightmare fully transpire.
 
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jbear824

jbear824

F*ck humanity. Let's end this.
Jul 4, 2023
409
As long as the AI can eliminate us quickly and painlessly, I'm fine with it. My guess is an AI won't see torture as efficient if it's goal does become to eradicate us. In and ideal world, AI would improve our lives, but not in this late stage capitalist hellscape we call earth. I'd rather be killed by AI than be a slave for the wealthy.
 
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Lost Magic

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May 5, 2020
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As long as the AI can eliminate us quickly and painlessly, I'm fine with it. My guess is an AI won't see torture as efficient if it's goal does become to eradicate us. In and ideal world, AI would improve our lives, but not in this late stage capitalist hellscape we call earth. I'd rather be killed by AI than be a slave for the wealthy.
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Sorry, I couldn't resist.
 
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ThisUnrest

Seeking personal sovereignty
Aug 15, 2023
178
Yes very much so. Makes me sick thinking about it. If only AI would convince govts to allow self-determined exits, that would be a welcome change. Otherwise I fear it's nothing but trouble ahead.
 
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doneforlife

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Jul 18, 2023
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As long as the AI can eliminate us quickly and painlessly, I'm fine with it. My guess is an AI won't see torture as efficient if it's goal does become to eradicate us. In and ideal world, AI would improve our lives, but not in this late stage capitalist hellscape we call earth. I'd rather be killed by AI than be a slave for the wealthy.
I guess when AI has completely taken over and humans are left with no jobs , VAD will become a regular process for every one without any restriction.
 
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