Anyone else convinced their want to ctb is connected to indigenous ancestors being violently driven from their homes? Or other generational trauma?

[wantstogohome]

I just see myself as the last one in a meaningless line of homeless nobodies going nowhere and forced to work for people who want to fuck up the human experience for everyone for profit. I feel like I'm betraying my ancestors by not ctb even though I don't want to die all the time. Anyone else feel something similar?

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Not indigenous, but my great grandfather was driven to kill himself when the communists took over China and they seized all his assets. This led to my grandfather's family fleeing to Taiwan where my dad was born and his poverty upbringing in the rural areas of Taiwan caused him to become incredibly bitter and socially inept which was why he was such a terrible husband to my mom and father to me. It's safe to say that if the communists had not taken over, then I would not even have been born. I don't have the luxury of wishing my parents had gotten an abortion or used protection or anything like that because there's absolutely no way they would have. I was intentionally bred and held as a pinnacle just because I happened to be born male.

I live in the middle of the Silicon Valley in California and go on Twitter a lot where I can sort of feel the same communist virus spreading amongst people my age, infecting their brains with the promise of free money and better times. You can call it socialism or say it's going to help the oppressed all you want but all anyone wants is revenge and power, not equality. Things are going to just get a lot worse for anyone who has assets whatsoever so what's the point of even trying to accumulate wealth? I'm probably wrong, but the fact I will never accept any form of communism is another reason why I have to die just like my great grandfather.

 

[D&D]

Unresolved intergenerational trauma is passed from one generation to the next. Until someone breaks the trajectory. Either by addressing it, if fortunate enough to have resources and support required, or by opting out via suicide.

 

[Snake of Eden]

What you say is very obvious and pervasive in many native communities that perpetually inherit their ancestors trauma wether through nature (genes) or nurture (enviroment). Trauma actually leaves an imprint on the DNA. Studies has shown that to be very likely a possibility when they for example analyzed DNA from those who descended from people who went through famine in the Ukaraine. i imagine this applies to other types of trauma too

 

[WrongPlaceWrongTime]

Not indigenous, but my great grandfather was driven to kill himself when the communists took over China and they seized all his assets. This led to my grandfather's family fleeing to Taiwan where my dad was born and his poverty upbringing in the rural areas of Taiwan caused him to become incredibly bitter and socially inept which was why he was such a terrible husband to my mom and father to me. It's safe to say that if the communists had not taken over, then I would not even have been born. I don't have the luxury of wishing my parents had gotten an abortion or used protection or anything like that because there's absolutely no way they would have. I was intentionally bred and held as a pinnacle just because I happened to be born male.

I live in the middle of the Silicon Valley in California and go on Twitter a lot where I can sort of feel the same communist virus spreading amongst people my age, infecting their brains with the promise of free money and better times. You can call it socialism or say it's going to help the oppressed all you want but all anyone wants is revenge and power, not equality. Things are going to just get a lot worse for anyone who has assets whatsoever so what's the point of even trying to accumulate wealth? I'm probably wrong, but the fact I will never accept any form of communism is another reason why I have to die just like my great grandfather.

Similar situation here. My dad's family had to flee and abandon their home because of the communists. Later when my dad married his second wife (my mother) he didn't check her background, she turns out to be a former communist. Needless to say they don't get along.

 

[Flippy]

What you say is very obvious and pervasive in many native communities that perpetually inherit their ancestors trauma wether through nature (genes) or nurture (enviroment). Trauma actually leaves an imprint on the DNA. Studies has shown that to be very likely a possibility when they for example analyzed DNA from those who descended from people who went through famine in the Ukaraine. i imagine this applies to other types of trauma too

Sounds interesting, do you have a link to this? I'm sure that there's probably something in this as stress certainly has an impact physically. It's not a huge leap to wonder if stress can damage DNA to the extent that it could damage offspring.

 

[Snake of Eden]

Sounds interesting, do you have a link to this? I'm sure that there's probably something in this as stress certainly has an impact physically. It's not a huge leap to wonder if stress can damage DNA to the extent that it could damage offspring.

Kennisgeving voor omleiding

Can the legacy of trauma be passed down the generations?

Our children and grandchildren are shaped by the genes they inherit from us, but new research is revealing that experiences of hardship or violence can leave their mark too.

www.bbc.com

 

[Flippy]

Kennisgeving voor omleiding

Can the legacy of trauma be passed down the generations?

Our children and grandchildren are shaped by the genes they inherit from us, but new research is revealing that experiences of hardship or violence can leave their mark too.

www.bbc.com

Oh dear it's.....them.......the NYT! Lol!

Cool! I will have a look! Thanks! :-)

Edit...(Don't worry zeroornothing is not making light of my gestation! )

Well that explains a lot then. There's a high chance that my mother had a less than ideal lifestyle when she was pregnant with me. I guess she started messing me up a lot earlier than I had initially thought :-/

 

[Insomniac]

anyone who denies the extent of the impact/seriousness of generational trauma has issues.

 

[dyingalone123]

Not indigenous, but my great grandfather was driven to kill himself when the communists took over China and they seized all his assets. This led to my grandfather's family fleeing to Taiwan where my dad was born and his poverty upbringing in the rural areas of Taiwan caused him to become incredibly bitter and socially inept which was why he was such a terrible husband to my mom and father to me. It's safe to say that if the communists had not taken over, then I would not even have been born. I don't have the luxury of wishing my parents had gotten an abortion or used protection or anything like that because there's absolutely no way they would have. I was intentionally bred and held as a pinnacle just because I happened to be born male.

I live in the middle of the Silicon Valley in California and go on Twitter a lot where I can sort of feel the same communist virus spreading amongst people my age, infecting their brains with the promise of free money and better times. You can call it socialism or say it's going to help the oppressed all you want but all anyone wants is revenge and power, not equality. Things are going to just get a lot worse for anyone who has assets whatsoever so what's the point of even trying to accumulate wealth? I'm probably wrong, but the fact I will never accept any form of communism is another reason why I have to die just like my great grandfather.

umm are you part of my fam - b/c our family background is kinda similar. my asian dad's deranged and escaped communist China to come here. Freak he's verbally abusive fck him.

 

[noaccount]

I just see myself as the last one in a meaningless line of homeless nobodies going nowhere and forced to work for people who want to fuck up the human experience for everyone for profit. I feel like I'm betraying my ancestors by not ctb even though I don't want to die all the time. Anyone else feel something similar?

This is very real and I have mad respect to you for writing about it here and I apologize in advance regarding any bootlickers who show up and yell about the discussion of racism/colonialism being ~*mean*~ or something. You're right and you should say it.

Not indigenous, but my great grandfather was driven to kill himself when the communists took over China and they seized all his assets. This led to my grandfather's family fleeing to Taiwan where my dad was born and his poverty upbringing in the rural areas of Taiwan caused him to become incredibly bitter and socially inept which was why he was such a terrible husband to my mom and father to me. It's safe to say that if the communists had not taken over, then I would not even have been born. I don't have the luxury of wishing my parents had gotten an abortion or used protection or anything like that because there's absolutely no way they would have. I was intentionally bred and held as a pinnacle just because I happened to be born male.

I live in the middle of the Silicon Valley in California and go on Twitter a lot where I can sort of feel the same communist virus spreading amongst people my age, infecting their brains with the promise of free money and better times. You can call it socialism or say it's going to help the oppressed all you want but all anyone wants is revenge and power, not equality. Things are going to just get a lot worse for anyone who has assets whatsoever so what's the point of even trying to accumulate wealth? I'm probably wrong, but the fact I will never accept any form of communism is another reason why I have to die just like my great grandfather.

Hi. I'm the virus. Anyone who's gaining "assets" from the labor of others, I have no problem kicking out to the position that those whose labor they exploit live in now. I laugh at a hypothetical future commie boogieman being held up to distract from the dispossession and misery that the great many of us are resigned to today, while we don't even get a say in what kind of world our own sweat and stolen creative-power is used to build. There were just Amazon and candle factory workers murdered en masse by their bosses in Kentucky refusing to let them leave or go to shelter when the tornado sirens went off. Any body-politic that runs this way, deserves to be infected terminally.

 

[maakies]

My parents come from a hypercapitalistic country in Southeast Asia whose only sway was from Western (American, British, Western Europe in general) or Eastern (Chinese, Japanese, now Korea's newfound tech boom) superpowers with more money than the people from the country itself. It feels like libertarian hell whenever I get over there: full of sweatshops and underpaid outsourced labor and sex tourists. Everyone is exploited and submissive and thanking and fawning over those whiter than them for the very exploitation. It's sickening how they brainwashed millions. For the most part, they have such severe "I got mine" syndrome (greed) that any threat to that is met with a bullet in the head, usually. Most the politicians are of Chinese ancestry, not our countrymen.

I would like to opt out of the whole ending intergenerational trauma. I don't give a shit if my parents wanted for me to have a better life here. They're all solidly middle class and will live out their lives silently repressing everything to which they'll never admit. Hell, they're giving up on America themselves.

I have nowhere to go. America or Asia. I can't just be some normie neutral NPC person in either of these settings. And God, I'd sell my soul to the devil if I could live out my life as such. I'm treated as foreign here and the minute I open my mouth I'm foreign there. Can't go to East Asia without looking like a servant of some kind.

What's the fucking point? I will never accept capitalism. All I've learned is "welcome your invader, your financier, grovel at his feet to survive" from my family. I resist CTB sometimes because I believe I can resist the ideology that much of my family has taken to heart. Siblings, cousins who have to work thousands of miles away from home to make a living. They'll be fine following these guidelines without wanting to CTB. Me? Not so much.

This is very real and I have mad respect to you for writing about it here and I apologize in advance regarding any bootlickers who show up and yell about the discussion of racism/colonialism being ~*mean*~ or something. You're right and you should say it.

Hi. I'm the virus. Anyone who's gaining "assets" from the labor of others, I have no problem kicking out to the position that those whose labor they exploit live in now. I laugh at a hypothetical future commie boogieman being held up to distract from the dispossession and misery that the great many of us are resigned to today, while we don't even get a say in what kind of world our own sweat and stolen creative-power is used to build. There were just Amazon and candle factory workers murdered en masse by their bosses in Kentucky refusing to let them leave or go to shelter when the tornado sirens went off. Any body-politic that runs this way, deserves to be infected terminally.

I feel you buddy. I can't stand this shit.

 

[Snake of Eden]

My parents come from a hypercapitalistic country in Southeast Asia whose only sway was from Western (American, British, Western Europe in general) or Eastern (Chinese, Japanese, now Korea's newfound tech boom) superpowers with more money than the people from the country itself. It feels like libertarian hell whenever I get over there: full of sweatshops and underpaid outsourced labor and sex tourists. Everyone is exploited and submissive and thanking and fawning over those whiter than them for the very exploitation. It's sickening how they brainwashed millions. For the most part, they have such severe "I got mine" syndrome (greed) that any threat to that is met with a bullet in the head, usually. Most the politicians are of Chinese ancestry, not our countrymen.

I would like to opt out of the whole ending intergenerational trauma. I don't give a shit if my parents wanted for me to have a better life here. They're all solidly middle class and will live out their lives silently repressing everything to which they'll never admit. Hell, they're giving up on America themselves.

I have nowhere to go. America or Asia. I can't just be some normie neutral NPC person in either of these settings. And God, I'd sell my soul to the devil if I could live out my life as such. I'm treated as foreign here and the minute I open my mouth I'm foreign there. Can't go to East Asia without looking like a servant of some kind.

What's the fucking point? I will never accept capitalism. All I've learned is "welcome your invader, your financier, grovel at his feet to survive" from my family. I resist CTB sometimes because I believe I can resist the ideology that much of my family has taken to heart. Siblings, cousins who have to work thousands of miles away from home to make a living. They'll be fine following these guidelines without wanting to CTB. Me? Not so much.


I feel you buddy. I can't stand this shit.

Well said

 

[Bleak]

Interesting thread. Don't know if it applies to my family at all but interesting to read people's experiences.