Anyone else considering suicide because it's inconvenient to stay alive?

[Samn77]

Like, I don't necessarily have any glaring issues that's making me suicidal. Just the idea of staying alive another few decades is so taxing. I don't want to work some shit job, get in some shit relationship, have kids just so they can decay. Dying sounds easier. Life is annoying and taxing more than anything else and I have the option to quit, so why not? I think it's a pretty reasonable and logical way of looking at things. I'm always met with arguments such as I'll miss out on stuff and my family will be sad, as if those things have some intrinsic value that I should care about. Anyway, tell me about your reason for wanting to die?

 

[sadghost]

I really relate to that! Personally I don't have just one reason that I want to CTB, but your reason is definitely one of them. The whole "work, get married, have kids, eventually die" thing is standard in my family, but it doesn't appeal to me. I'd rather just skip to the "die" part.

 

[InterstateFlowers]

I definitely know how you feel! I cried when I turned 17 because I was so scared of becoming an adult and failing at it. I'm a lot older now and I still feel immature, naive, and stupid. Living is expensive, I didn't realize that when I was little but oh my god it's so expensive!! Finding a job and finding experience for my empty resume gets me so anxious too.. The only reason I'm not dying immediately is for my family. I love them a lot and before I die I want to get really comfortable with the fact that I won't be able to physically hold or see them anymore... I have until my 30's because I don't want to live longer than that. The more I think about it, my reason for ctbing is actually really pathetic. I have a family that loves me and yet I want to die because I'm scared of the consequences that come with being alive.

 

[Shinbu]

Yes, I hope I can stay in nonexistence, but this time forever once I go back there. Having a body, and mind is too stressful for me.

 

[nigelhernandez]

People tell me to grow up and get a job but I'm 22 and never worked. I apply everyone but EVEN minimum wage jobs turn me down for lack of experience. McDonalds included.

I hate my family and want to move out but I can't even get a job to move out..

 

[SpottedPanda]

I'm just sick of the very idea of life. To think, I've been here 37 years, and it's took forever to get here, and I might have to live that same amount all over again to wait for a natural death. No thanks

 

[Jean Améry]

Dying sounds easier.

Based on a great many posts here I highly doubt that it'll be easy in practice. The infamous 'survival instinct' coupled with society's crack-down on humane suicide-methods takes care of that.

Besides that I can't really argue with your logic here. Purely from the individual perspective it's hard to maintain that an unpleasant life (whatever form the misery may take and whatever the cause or causes of said misery) is better than death. Not from a materialistic perspective anyway entailing death as the permanent end of all experience.

I do put some stock in what I call 'the social argument against suicide': I'll not go as far as to call most suicides unethical because they harm others in some way (even if it's just indirectly) but I do think it's worth considering what your death might do to others you care about. If there are people who were good to you and genuinly care about you there is something to be said for taking that into account. If life isn't too unpleasant perhaps it might be worth staying alive to spare someone-else grief. I think such an attitude and decision is quite noble as it transcends the inborn egotism and egoism of humanity. Of course I understand some people's misery is so great as to make that point completely moot.

If there simply are no others you care about or no-one who genuinly cares you that's another matter of course. Assuming you don't have children.

 

[Bct]

Looking at my own situation, yes, it's inconvenient to stay alive. I have several (undiagnosed) mental issues, and also being lonely. Maybe I could recover from them, but I have to spend lots of money & time and that's not a certainty. I could waste a lot just to find out they're not working at all. It's really inconvenient.

 

[AcornUnderground]

Based on a great many posts here I highly doubt that it'll be easy in practice. The infamous 'survival instinct' coupled with society's crack-down on humane suicide-methods takes care of that.

Besides that I can't really argue with your logic here. Purely from the individual perspective it's hard to maintain that an unpleasant life (whatever form the misery may take and whatever the cause or causes of said misery) is better than death. Not from a materialistic perspective anyway entailing death as the permanent end of all experience.

I do put some stock in what I call 'the social argument against suicide': I'll not go as far as to call most suicides unethical because they harm others in some way (even if it's just indirectly) but I do think it's worth considering what your death might do to others you care about. If there are people who were good to you and genuinly care about you there is something to be said for taking that into account. If life isn't too unpleasant perhaps it might be worth staying alive to spare someone-else grief. I think such an attitude and decision is quite noble as it transcends the inborn egotism and egoism of humanity. Of course I understand some people's misery is so great as to make that point completely moot.

If there simply are no others you care about or no-one who genuinly cares you that's another matter of course. Assuming you don't have children.

What about if your have children but are completely unable to care for them due to a terrible degenerative disease? And no way to have income or any kind or health insurance? My options are to be in some efficiency apartment alone for decades - with what money I don't know because I was denied government assistance - bedridden in pain with visits from my completely devastated children because we lost our home and they have to stay with their dad all the time - watching me degenerate over decades. I can't even go outside, cook, or go to the grocery store. I'll miss their whole lives but I will be physically there for them to visit, declining all the time, already on too many meds I can't afford. Or do I leave? Such a terrible circumstance.

 

[Jean Améry]

What about if your have children but are completely unable to care for them due to a terrible degenerative disease? And no way to have income or any kind or health insurance? My options are to be in some efficiency apartment alone for decades - with what money I don't know because I was denied government assistance - bedridden in pain with visits from my completely devastated children because we lost our home and they have to stay with their dad all the time - watching me degenerate over decades. I can't even go outside, cook, or go to the grocery store. I'll miss their whole lives but I will be physically there for them to visit, declining all the time, already on too many meds I can't afford. Or do I leave? Such a terrible circumstance.

I have no intention of judging you. I merely indicated that I think that if you have children things are very different from a moral perspective and it's not just about what you want. 'Different' in this context doesn't mean it would be morally reprehensible for parents to CTB under all circumstances. Context is vital.

For what it's worth I don't think people in your rather dreadful circumstances are selfish for contemplating death in any way. In legal terms it would be called 'force majeure': circumstances beyond one's control that alleviate one of responsibility/liability.

I sympathize with your suffering and hope I didn't give offense to you. None was intended.

As to your choice: I don't know what to tell you nor do I want to as I cannot possibly phantom your situation and reality. It is indeed a terrible shame and a tragedy that anyone finds themselves in such circumstances.

 

[AcornUnderground]

I have no intention of judging you. I merely indicated that I think that if you have children things are very different from a moral perspective and it's not just about what you want. 'Different' in this context doesn't mean it would be morally reprehensible for parents to CTB under all circumstances. Context is vital.

For what it's worth I don't think people in your rather dreadful circumstances are selfish for contemplating death in any way. In legal terms it would be called 'force majeure': circumstances beyond one's control that alleviate one of responsibility/liability.

I sympathize with your suffering and hope I didn't give offense to you. None was intended.

As to your choice: I don't know what to tell you nor do I want to as I cannot possibly phantom your situation and reality. It is indeed a terrible shame and a tragedy that anyone finds themselves in such circumstances.

Thank you. It's not fair to put that question on you, I just like your insight. I appreciate it. The situation is simply the worst. No easy answers.

 

[faraway_beach]

I've had a good life so far, I probably have the easiest life in the world right now, but even the simplest things seem like too much effort: making coffee in the morning, cleaning the coffee pot at night. I get so tired that it's too much trouble to get ready for bed, so I just crash on the couch and don't take care of myself. No living thing relies on me; I took care of my parents until their deaths, and I never had kids. I don't even have a pet. Three people in the world know my name, none of them live nearby, none of them are in any danger of discovering my rotting corpse. I don't know how much of this is the result of the cancer.

 

[ornitier199]

At this point, yes, because I'm kidding myself right now. I didn't want to subject myself painful methods, even SN is looking painful but may be my only option.

 

[FuneralCry]

In my case, I have came to the conclusion that my life is not worth living. If I stayed alive I would have decades of misery ahead. To me it makes sense to leave this world. There is nothing here for me and I would never want to live no matter what happens. I have no interest in living anyway and I see life as just being so pointless. I prefer the sound of non existence personally.

 

[PigeonDreamzz]

Like, I don't necessarily have any glaring issues that's making me suicidal. Just the idea of staying alive another few decades is so taxing. I don't want to work some shit job, get in some shit relationship, have kids just so they can decay. Dying sounds easier. Life is annoying and taxing more than anything else and I have the option to quit, so why not? I think it's a pretty reasonable and logical way of looking at things. I'm always met with arguments such as I'll miss out on stuff and my family will be sad, as if those things have some intrinsic value that I should care about. Anyway, tell me about your reason for wanting to die?

Haha, yeah :D