Anybody else is afraid that suicide may become impossible?

[TAW122]

To some degree, yes. As we are in 2020 (and assuming Moore's Law is in effect, thus accelerating technological advancements at a rapid pace), it is not surprising that there would be many chances in the next decade. I'd presume I'd be gone long before then (circumstance and time dependent of course). I am currently age 29 so I have seen many things in life already and there is little or much new things left, and most things are just meh, while suffering continues to be.

The most accurate prediction I have is that certain realiable methods may be harder and harder to acquire or reliably get such as: firearms, certain poisons, other reliable means. Hell, I wouldn't even be surprised if more companies are requiring reference and other screening checks before selling such a product to an individual. While my state (NC) is one of the more lax states when it comes to gun laws, there is no telling how this decade (or even in a few years) will shape firearm ownership. I do hope it doesn't change too much such that it becomes something like FL (Florida), CA (California), or NY (New York), where gun laws are so stringent and you would have to jump through many hoops and more before you could 'legally' acquire one.

 

[EndItNorth]

Like others, my greatest fear is trying and failing and then the aftermath of dealing with the additional pain and problems.

 

[Christ88]

Let me explain. Science is evolving so fast that it could make suicide become near impossible or impossible in the future. That's so scary, that this idea is driving me crazy everyday. Just imagine the ways that it could happen. I read a post on reddit other day where a guy said that he was afraid that in the future it could become impossible to commit suicide because you could get an implant under your skin that could detect your vital signs and if it noticed that you are dying it would call an ambulance, preventing suicide. Then I read an article elsewhere, that in the future, depressed people would have an implant in their brains, that would send electrical pulse to the brain to prevent them commit suicide out of impulse. Then I read another article where scientists could 'revive' the brains of decapitated dead pigs. Today we still can escape life but Imagine how people could be prevented to suicide in the future, either by chip, implant or even by being brought from the dead. This makes me so terrified that I feel like ctb asap. Either society reaches enlightenment or they'll think they have the right to trap us here. The bad thing is that we haven't and probably won't abolish human suffering so soon and society can't accept that the suicidal person often suffers terribly with problems that have no solution, and prolonging life only prolongs the agony. So we'll be trapped suffering, that'd be hell. I'm getting obsessed with that. What people here think about this?

This is utter BS, if pain wasn't an issue suicide would be so easy. Nothing is going to save you from standing in front a train travelling at 100mph, or jumping off a 300 foot cliff.

Humans are not immortal.

 

[Lavendermoon]

I reached enlightenment 2018. to then be introduced to cannabis that turned out to be laced with heroin now I've fucked myself up. Really badly. To the point I don't wanna live yet knowing I can't die either. Awful!

 

[Aliali1992]

If humans got that advanced...maybe first they will adress the reasons to suicide like mental illness and find effective ways to treat them?

 

[terry_a_davis]

I worry that when i decide to ctb, which will be in ? years time not months or weeks, that N or SN or F wont be available duemto tighter controls, the other methods like hanging for example scare me.

 

[Throwmyselfaway]

People will still find ways. Look at people in prison that still manage to do it.

 

[toomuchtimetodie]

This is utter BS, if pain wasn't an issue suicide would be so easy. Nothing is going to save you from standing in front a train travelling at 100mph, or jumping off a 300 foot cliff.

Humans are not immortal.

You are being patronisingly dismissive to an interesting/horrifying concept... Not all of us just want to see topics of self pity from people who don't see the horror of this existence. OP Was using those examples... Not an extent of that's the limit. Technology could become that there's a chip in us that won't allow us to endanger ourselves on a track or cliff. And if we could drones may become so advanced they fly in 1 second and mop our brains up back together forcing us to remain conscious.

 

[oopswronglife]

I was never worried about IF I took the step. But I did...and failed....and now am terrified if I cannot survive and need to again that I won't manage. I never imagined I would be one who survived it. Now I don't trust myself or methods. I am not brave enough for jumping or other sure things. I want a life for sure...but fear if I cannot I am doubly screwed.

 

[racek]

@oopswronglife Sorry to hear that man. I still struggle with taking first step. I guess I will ( IF) in place full of distraction. So I will not feel isolated. I dont know if it makes any sense

 

[thx1138]

Wow, OP, I thought I was the only one who had this paranoia. Turns out I'm not alone! It's not as impossible as people think. Surveillance technology is already very advanced, look at China and their social credit system. There people also spy on each other and alert the authorities if anyone is abnormal or "suspicious". It's likely that something like that can get implemented in other countries and your "social score" would decrease if you have mental problems. They can already spy on your mobile devices, which you carry with you at all times, it's just a matter of when the devices will be implanted or not easily turned off...

And in the more distant future, it can be even worse. Scientists have been able to install a chip in the brains of mice and control their movements, etc.. Controlling the brain directly. So my ultimate fear (although unlikely) is that they would eventually prevent you from even having the thought of ctb. Like as soon as you have the thought, they will drug you or wipe out your memory or something.

 

[itsamadworld]

If that vital signs chip was a thing, why would people get it? Let alone every single person? Would the government force us? Imagine the riots if that happened, any government like that wouldn't last long.
More to the point, why would the government give a fuck if some random person wants to die? I doubt I'm important enough for the government to want to force me to stay alive at any cost. In reality theyre more likely to let you go to weed out the 'weak' from the gene pool.
And even if everyone did get them, I'm sure people would find a way to remove them.

Those ideas are interesting movie ideas, but will never happen in real life. And no I don't worry about it, I'll be long gone by the time the technology to do that even becomes available

The government doesn't care, but they certainly do not want too many people to commit suicide. The gov't still needs tax-payers, and slaves/ indentured servants to do their dirty work. They also like people to live long, so they can stick them in nursing homes so doctors can do unnecessary procedures on them. More cash-cows for the state.

 

[thx1138]

For the skeptics, from the leading scientific journal Nature: https://www.nature.com/news/ai-controlled-brain-implants-for-mood-disorders-tested-in-people-1.23031

And that's from 3 years ago...

 

[Pan]

Further proof, I think, that society is becoming increasingly authoritarian. We need only look at the degree of social control occurring now, in the wake of the corona virus pandemic. The state has a vested interest in controlling the population in anyway it can.

 

[autumnal]

Let me explain. Science is evolving so fast that it could make suicide become near impossible or impossible in the future. That's so scary, that this idea is driving me crazy everyday. Just imagine the ways that it could happen. I read a post on reddit other day where a guy said that he was afraid that in the future it could become impossible to commit suicide because you could get an implant under your skin that could detect your vital signs and if it noticed that you are dying it would call an ambulance, preventing suicide. Then I read an article elsewhere, that in the future, depressed people would have an implant in their brains, that would send electrical pulse to the brain to prevent them commit suicide out of impulse. Then I read another article where scientists could 'revive' the brains of decapitated dead pigs. Today we still can escape life but Imagine how people could be prevented to suicide in the future, either by chip, implant or even by being brought from the dead. This makes me so terrified that I feel like ctb asap. Either society reaches enlightenment or they'll think they have the right to trap us here. The bad thing is that we haven't and probably won't abolish human suffering so soon and society can't accept that the suicidal person often suffers terribly with problems that have no solution, and prolonging life only prolongs the agony. So we'll be trapped suffering, that'd be hell. I'm getting obsessed with that. What people here think about this?

To the extent that any of this is even remotely possible, it wouldn't eventuate for a very long time and such developments are hardly going to creep up on you gradually to the extent that you suddenly or unexpectedly lose your options for or ability to suicide.

 

[s1mplem3]

Don't worry, even with implant that calls ambulance there are ways to CTB, like stabbing heart or neck and even fastest ambulance can't save your life. One day humanity will destroy themselves completely.

 

[Halnas]

Show me the ambulance that is fast enough to save you from a gun shot to the head, a jump in front of the train or even asphyxiation. 15min, that's how fast they can in theory reach you here if they are on standby.

But it is still scarry that thanks to that coronavirus nonsense, we already see apps for health and phone tracking just to find out where people are and if they are potentially ill.
And cars that take auto-emergency calls on accident are already around and that functionality is even now required in new cars in Europe.

 

[faust]

I am in such a situation right now. At this very moment suicide is impossible for me.
My methods are frozen during lockdown, can't get medication though have a prescription - no money.
Even if I wanted to die right now, I would not be able to - we are unable to travel.
I hope I will continue preparing for CTB soon, but now I have no safety pillow, I have nothing.

 

[Hypergang2018]

No. If someone wants to CTB, they will find a way eventually.

Pretty hard to CTB if you're in a straitjacket in a padded cell

 

[Cancún]

yo think hes right , i agree im so afraid to never be able to do it , but , its a must i have to , but im afraid to be stuck yes