Any chemists out here?

[randal_bond]

We all know that Thiopental is metabolised into N in the body. Is there a way to do the same in a laboratory setting?
Detailed and informed replies are much appreciated.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

We all know that Thiopental is metabolised into N in the body. Is there a way to do the same in a laboratory setting?
Detailed and informed replies are much appreciated.

Wish I could help.
I'm looking into T61 at the moment, the veterinary euthanasia drug.

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

i like your thinking.

 

[randal_bond]

Tanax is good but I don't see how it will be any more possible to obtain than N. Both are used in veterinary, but so what?

 

[peace_van]

So you have a reliable source for Thiopental?
Can Thiopental itself work comparably with N?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I think it'd be easier to make N directly. Metabolism in the body is far more complicated to replicate imo.

There's info on how to make N but imo it's still complicated:

Make nembutal

is there any chemist here who understand how to create nembutal? is it possible?

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[cosmic-joke]

Wish I could help.
I'm looking into T61 at the moment, the veterinary euthanasia drug.

Extremely hard to source, look up ddmp2 or ddma

We all know that Thiopental is metabolised into N in the body. Is there a way to do the same in a laboratory setting?
Detailed and informed replies are much appreciated.

Exit international have a great video on how to synth nembutal at home, though if u use tor getting the ingredients for ddmp2 would be easier.

 

[randal_bond]

1. Do I google this video?
2. Not as good as it sounds.

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