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lessthanperfect

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Accessible (household medications, cleaning supplies, etc.) and unlikely to leave time for friends/family to interfere. That means anywhere from instantly to ~4-6 hours but preferably shorter and as quiet as possible. A lack of pain is not the most significant factor, but if at all possible I'd like to avoid it.

Other important detail: risk of failure with brain damage, etc. low and/or high likelihood of being physically and mentally capable of attempting again if I fail. Failure isn't an option if I attempt as it would ruin everything I have going for me and prevent all future career prospects (in my current field) so I would need to be physically and mentally able to attempt again if I were to fail.

No car so CO poisoning is out the window. No gun either although either of these would be my top option if they were available.

Not at immediate risk--just needing a method to keep in my back pocket for whenever necessary.

Before I get comments complaining that I'm asking for help rather than doing my own research, I've already done my own research but information is scarce and difficult to come by. I'm seeking you guys because many of you have already done much more research than I have and are more well versed on methods that I am not.
 
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For my method this site has given a lot of well put together information - based on personal plans of others, not going to reference or help since it is crime to do so, if I was gonna CTB in a few moments I might've helped, but I don't think we want more trouble than there already is. Hope this does bring some clarity
 
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For my method this site has given a lot of well put together information - based on personal plans of others, not going to reference or help since it is crime to do so, if I was gonna CTB in a few moments I might've helped, but I don't think we want more trouble than there already is. Hope this does bring some clarity
Is this a recent change? I see a lot of older posts where people were much more willing to give objective explanations of methods without encouraging the OP to CTB where no one was being criticized or stopped from doing so.
 
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Is this a recent change? I see a lot of older posts where people were much more willing to give objective explanations of methods without encouraging the OP to CTB where no one was being criticized or stopped from doing so.
not sure, but for me and where I live it is very murky waters to help someone with such a thing and with tantacrul video.. this site is probably on watch. I just recently joined because of tantacrul's video, saw a community with people on the same page as me and went YO- hahaha (by that I mean seeing people who agree that we should chose how our life should end). Life can be a awesome thing, so please make sure this is something you are sure about, because some things can be fixed - blah blah you probably have already heard it.
I do wish you well and hope things get better, goodluck in finding your method if you're sure, but more importantly, hope you don't do it. No one wishes for someone to die just because they are suffering or for no reason at all - thats inhumane. Take care please :)
Kind regards
 
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I'm not surprised that you were unable to find a method in your own research that matches your description. The fact is that suicide isn't that easy, I think that if people could ctb reliably using household products then there wouldn't be all these endless threads on here about other methods. And I think that if people could easily ctb on cleaning supplies, then I bet that the shops would stop selling those products as after all this society is so anti suicide.
 
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CO poisoning by car exhaust doesn't work anymore anyway since catalytic converters are now fitted on cars.
 
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Unless if you have access and can purchase certain drugs over the dark web, you won't really have shall we say, a cyanide pill you can just pop and drop without anyone being able to interfere.

Even the most accessible method to you that you can have any decent chance of CTBing with when done correctly, hanging, you still need a couple of hours to yourself to ensure you can't be rescued. Hanging is also not easy to pull off, I hear about just as many failed attempts with hanging (if not more) as I have with failed drug overdose attempts.
 
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Sep 9, 2022
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Liquid Nitrogen (LN2)

NOT Nitrogen Gas (as in tanks)—LIQUID Nitrogen. LN2 is cheap, abundant, and easily available everywhere and anywhere, from your local ice cream equipment supply shop, local university chemistry stockroom, dry ice supplier, specialty chemical store, industrial/medical gas shops. Welding Supply shops chief among them, always on tap. Who the hell has the money and patience to work with massive gas nitrogen tanks, complex hoses, valves, regulators, and all of these complex apparatuses, fittings, complex calculations plus dealing with exit airbags or what not Too many variables and headaches.

With Liquid Nitrogen, you just need a cryogenic container off Amazon for $100 and a confined space. That's it. Full stop.

LN2 evaporates from liquid to gas at an expansion rate of 1:700 liquid to gas unit ratio. So 1L of liquid nitrogen rapidly expands to 700 Liters of Nitrogen gas. 6L of LN2 would only weigh a few pounds and would be enough to displace the entire atmosphere in a large vehicle, or double its internal pressure.

With a large enough quantity inside, it could blow out a car's windows if you poured the LN2 from the dewar onto styrofoam pails inside. Exposed to room temperature, the liquid-gas expansion rate would rapidly increase the internal pressure without a small vent exhaust aperture.

Nitrogen is very dangerous because it doesn't set off the body's hypercapnic response alarm system, so you won't feel panicked or like you're going to die. Industrial accidents often occur with LN2 leaks where bystanders peacefully pass out within a breath or two. Then another goes into the rescue the first, becoming a second casualty, and then a third, and then a fourth, and a fifth, until enough bodies pile up.

Right to die advocates heralded Nitrogen as one of the most peaceful means of euthanasia, in harmony with the thousands of peaceful N2 euthanistic modes of death acclaimed by the scientists who've witnessed them first-hand. They die in a few breaths with a smile in peace.

All you need is a one-person pop-up tent you can get on Amazon for $40. Why not even a body bag? The ideal setting would be in a vehicle with the window cracked just a bit or or any confined space and leave a little vent hole for the composite atmospheric air to exhaust out. Because nitrogen will be both colder and heavier than oxygen, it will begin filling up the confined space from the bottom up as it evaporates from liquid to gas. It's like filling up a swimming pool from bottom to top, forcing out the air out from the bottom up.

Liquid Nitrogen is legal to purchase, possess, and use to do whatever you wish with; no special licenses or regulatory approval. All you need is an approved cryogenic container ($100 on Amazon) and take it to your local welding shop. You can even make Ice Cream with it, as a last meal if you will. Just Google and print out a liquid nitrogen ice cream recipe, take it to your nearest welding shop with the container and they'll fill you up for a few bucks - like at the gas station. No questions asked. They're a business, and you're a paying customer. Cheaper than bottled water too, at only $2 bucks a Liter.

Please be mindful to leave a note to first responders warning of a HazMat Oxygen Deficient Environment, so people don't die going in to rescue you.

Just uncork the Dewar, pour the LN2 into a styrofoam container in a confined space, and snuggle tight in a sleeping bag, peacefully expelling yourself into non-existence. If you don't have a small closet, just get a body bag on Amazon for $35, decant the Dewar into a styrofoam cooler at the far inside (so you don't spill any and freezebite your feet) and leave the zipper an inch open for the oxygen to vent out. A caveman could do it.

You could also buy one of those small plastic one-person pop-up tents for a few bucks, cut a vent hole atop it, and enjoy the last few minutes of a final sunset before your lights go out for good. Go somewhere far away out to the Grand Canyon, abandoned Lighthouse, meadowlands or wherever remote parts of Nature beholds your sight, with not a soul around to spot you in sight. Why not even your local cemetery in the dead of night?

Just in case you should post a HazMat (or ☢ warning) Keep 500 Feet Away Warning Note posted around you so in case you're found they'll run away faster than the speed of wisdom away from you, instead of rushing in rescue towards you. I'd run with Godspeed faster than Speedy Gonzales if I ever saw a BioHazard or Radiation Warning sign like that with the fear of Satan in me away.

I'd be five hours late by the time rescuers would be cleared to go anywhere near you after having to fly in a special HazMat team to test and clear the area as safe out of an abundance of caution.
 
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Liquid Nitrogen (LN2)

NOT Nitrogen Gas (as in tanks)—LIQUID Nitrogen. LN2 is cheap, abundant, and easily available everywhere and anywhere, from your local ice cream equipment supply shop, local university chemistry stockroom, dry ice supplier, specialty chemical store, industrial/medical gas shops. Welding Supply shops chief among them, always on tap. Who the hell has the money and patience to work with massive gas nitrogen tanks, complex hoses, valves, regulators, and all of these complex apparatuses, fittings, complex calculations plus dealing with exit airbags or what not Too many variables and headaches.

With Liquid Nitrogen, you just need a cryogenic container off Amazon for $100 and a confined space. That's it. Full stop.

LN2 evaporates from liquid to gas at an expansion rate of 1:700 liquid to gas unit ratio. So 1L of liquid nitrogen rapidly expands to 700 Liters of Nitrogen gas. 6L of LN2 would only weigh a few pounds and would be enough to displace the entire atmosphere in a large vehicle, or double its internal pressure.

With a large enough quantity inside, it could blow out a car's windows if you poured the LN2 from the dewar onto styrofoam pails inside. Exposed to room temperature, the liquid-gas expansion rate would rapidly increase the internal pressure without a small vent exhaust aperture.

Nitrogen is very dangerous because it doesn't set off the body's hypercapnic response alarm system, so you won't feel panicked or like you're going to die. Industrial accidents often occur with LN2 leaks where bystanders peacefully pass out within a breath or two. Then another goes into the rescue the first, becoming a second casualty, and then a third, and then a fourth, and a fifth, until enough bodies pile up.

Right to die advocates heralded Nitrogen as one of the most peaceful means of euthanasia, in harmony with the thousands of peaceful N2 euthanistic modes of death acclaimed by the scientists who've witnessed them first-hand. They die in a few breaths with a smile in peace.

All you need is a one-person pop-up tent you can get on Amazon for $40. Why not even a body bag? The ideal setting would be in a vehicle with the window cracked just a bit or or any confined space and leave a little vent hole for the composite atmospheric air to exhaust out. Because nitrogen will be both colder and heavier than oxygen, it will begin filling up the confined space from the bottom up as it evaporates from liquid to gas. It's like filling up a swimming pool from bottom to top, forcing out the air out from the bottom up.

Liquid Nitrogen is legal to purchase, possess, and use to do whatever you wish with; no special licenses or regulatory approval. All you need is an approved cryogenic container ($100 on Amazon) and take it to your local welding shop. You can even make Ice Cream with it, as a last meal if you will. Just Google and print out a liquid nitrogen ice cream recipe, take it to your nearest welding shop with the container and they'll fill you up for a few bucks - like at the gas station. No questions asked. They're a business, and you're a paying customer. Cheaper than bottled water too, at only $2 bucks a Liter.

Please be mindful to leave a note to first responders warning of a HazMat Oxygen Deficient Environment, so people don't die going in to rescue you.

Just uncork the Dewar, pour the LN2 into a styrofoam container in a confined space, and snuggle tight in a sleeping bag, peacefully expelling yourself into non-existence. If you don't have a small closet, just get a body bag on Amazon for $35, decant the Dewar into a styrofoam cooler at the far inside (so you don't spill any and freezebite your feet) and leave the zipper an inch open for the oxygen to vent out. A caveman could do it.

You could also buy one of those small plastic one-person pop-up tents for a few bucks, cut a vent hole atop it, and enjoy the last few minutes of a final sunset before your lights go out for good. Go somewhere far away out to the Grand Canyon, abandoned Lighthouse, meadowlands or wherever remote parts of Nature beholds your sight, with not a soul around to spot you in sight. Why not even your local cemetery in the dead of night?

Just in case you should post a HazMat (or ☢ warning) Keep 500 Feet Away Warning Note posted around you so in case you're found they'll run away faster than the speed of wisdom away from you, instead of rushing in rescue towards you. I'd run with Godspeed faster than Speedy Gonzales if I ever saw a BioHazard or Radiation Warning sign like that with the fear of Satan in me away.

I'd be five hours late by the time rescuers would be cleared to go anywhere near you after having to fly in a special HazMat team to test and clear the area as safe out of an abundance of caution.

@GasMonkey i'd like your opinion on this
 
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lessthanperfect

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I found the resource compilation page and the "night night" method is easily available to me. Would you say this is a good method (as in comparable to hanging, LN2, or more painful and uncertain methods)?
 
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GasMonkey

Nitrogen Master Race
May 15, 2022
1,881
@GasMonkey i'd like your opinion on this
This has been discussed in other threads. @Shadowlord900 said that he tried to get Liquid Nitrogen and it wasn't that easy:
Well I've tried getting Liquid Nitrogen in the UK and it's not as easy as it sounds. Closest gas shop to me don't do it on site and will only do it over the phone, and I couldn't find a proper cyrogenic store, just a reception like area that's only meant for businesses. There's also the issue of transportation, I've read they won't give you the Liquid Nitrogen if you don't have a proper vehicle to transport it in and a normal car won't cut it (it'll need to be something like a van with a partition inside, and I dunno how funny van hiring services would be with you trying to transport Liquid Nitrogen), and I highly doubt they'll just let you walk away with a filled dewar on foot.

(Btw please don't say just order it online, that's not possible for me, I live in support living in a block of flats, a giant Liquid Nitrogen tank truck is going to raise red flags.)

I don't see any advantages of Liquid Nitrogen over a normal Nitrogen implementation (SCBA/EEBD/ExitBag) anyway.

Would you say this is a good method (as in comparable to hanging, LN2, or more painful and uncertain methods)?
A proper inert gas implementation is the best CTB method available and legal. Completely peaceful, painless and fast.
 
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orca87

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I don't see any advantages of Liquid Nitrogen over a normal Nitrogen implementation (SCBA/EEBD/ExitBag) anyway.
Depends on your priorities. Standard IG methods are technical yet effective and peaceful. Liquid nitrogen seems cosier. So if you want to crawl in a sleeping bag, inside a tent somewhere in nature without having something in your face, it sounds more appealing, yet less effective.
 
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not sure, but for me and where I live it is very murky waters to help someone with such a thing and with tantacrul video.. this site is probably on watch. I just recently joined because of tantacrul's video, saw a community with people on the same page as me and went YO- hahaha (by that I mean seeing people who agree that we should chose how our life should end). Life can be a awesome thing, so please make sure this is something you are sure about, because some things can be fixed - blah blah you probably have already heard it.
I do wish you well and hope things get better, goodluck in finding your method if you're sure, but more importantly, hope you don't do it. No one wishes for someone to die just because they are suffering or for no reason at all - thats inhumane. Take care please :)
Kind regards
Me too. I feel like Tantacrul's video had the opposite impact that he intended to have on viewers because I honestly just felt relieved that I'm not the only reason one who actually views suicide as a rational decision that is up to me, and me only. I've had some religious family friends (who were aware of my suicidality) tell me that 'life is a gift' - if someone gave you a gift and then you choose to dispose of that gift or choose to give it to someone else, are you committing a moral crime? Yes, it's not a nice thing but it is something you are entitled to upon receiving the gift; it is yours to use as you wish. Gifts are not conditional, and neither is one's life. It's yours to use as you wish.
 
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I don't see any advantages of Liquid Nitrogen over a normal Nitrogen implementation (SCBA/EEBD/ExitBag) anyway.
Depends on your priorities. Standard IG methods are technical yet effective and peaceful. Liquid nitrogen seems cosier. So if you want to crawl in a sleeping bag, inside a tent somewhere in nature without having something in your face, it sounds more appealing, yet less effective.

With liquid nitrogen there isn't as much equipment you'd need to mess about with. Supposedly opening the dewar in a small enough space with just a little bit of ventilation so the nitrogen can push the rest of the air out can be enough to make you CTB.

Of course it comes with its own disadvantages though. Along with seemingly being more difficult to get a hold of, if the space it's opened in is too big and/or there's too much ventilation, it won't work. I suppose it just comes down to personal preferences which method you find easier to figure out.

Also I dunno how long you can keep nitrogen gas in a normal tank, but because with a dewar it's technically always letting a tiny bit of gas out as to prevent the dewar from exploding, eventually it would run out of nitrogen gas. But it would take months for it to happen.

Not that it may mean much to suicidal people but something else worth mentioning, liquid nitrogen in a dewar is more of a risk hazard than a normal nitrogen tank. I imagine if a normal nitrogen tank broke or went bust, the nitrogen gas inside of it will just disperse safely into the air. But with liquid nitrogen, that stuff's extremely cold and will lead to frostbite if it makes contact with skin. Also if the dewar was freshly filled, you'd be surprised how much nitrogen gas can be contained within liquid nitrogen, just in case if for any reason you didn't want to accidentally CTB too early by opening it in a small enough space.
 
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LittleJem

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Wolfsbane plant cheap easy effective. Maybe painful but effective.

There's another method though that looks even better. Am going to order it. It's been mentioned recently on this forum. If you PM me I'll message it to you. Only as I am wanting to order it and don't want it banned.

I also still think trying to drown in bath is a good option. If you don't succeed, try again.

Partial hanging is a great method if only you can get it to work!
 
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not sure, but for me and where I live it is very murky waters to help someone with such a thing and with tantacrul video.. this site is probably on watch. I just recently joined because of tantacrul's video, saw a community with people on the same page as me and went YO- hahaha (by that I mean seeing people who agree that we should chose how our life should end). Life can be a awesome thing, so please make sure this is something you are sure about, because some things can be fixed - blah blah you probably have already heard it.
I do wish you well and hope things get better, goodluck in finding your method if you're sure, but more importantly, hope you don't do it. No one wishes for someone to die just because they are suffering or for no reason at all - thats inhumane. Take care please :)
Kind regards

Me too. I feel like Tantacrul's video had the opposite impact that he intended to have on viewers because I honestly just felt relieved that I'm not the only reason one who actually views suicide as a rational decision that is up to me, and me only. I've had some religious family friends (who were aware of my suicidality) tell me that 'life is a gift' - if someone gave you a gift and then you choose to dispose of that gift or choose to give it to someone else, are you committing a moral crime? Yes, it's not a nice thing but it is something you are entitled to upon receiving the gift; it is yours to use as you wish. Gifts are not conditional, and neither is one's life. It's yours to use as you wish.
I'm actually here from Tantacrul's video as well. His video wasn't about helping vulnerable groups. It was about money and the views/likes he could get by demonizing suicidal people.
 
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DeadManLiving

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With liquid nitrogen there isn't as much equipment you'd need to mess about with. Supposedly opening the dewar in a small enough space with just a little bit of ventilation so the nitrogen can push the rest of the air out can be enough to make you CTB.

Of course it comes with its own disadvantages though. Along with seemingly being more difficult to get a hold of, if the space it's opened in is too big and/or there's too much ventilation, it won't work. I suppose it just comes down to personal preferences which method you find easier to figure out.

Also I dunno how long you can keep nitrogen gas in a normal tank, but because with a dewar it's technically always letting a tiny bit of gas out as to prevent the dewar from exploding, eventually it would run out of nitrogen gas. But it would take months for it to happen.

Not that it may mean much to suicidal people but something else worth mentioning, liquid nitrogen in a dewar is more of a risk hazard than a normal nitrogen tank. I imagine if a normal nitrogen tank broke or went bust, the nitrogen gas inside of it will just disperse safely into the air. But with liquid nitrogen, that stuff's extremely cold and will lead to frostbite if it makes contact with skin. Also if the dewar was freshly filled, you'd be surprised how much nitrogen gas can be contained within liquid nitrogen, just in case if for any reason you didn't want to accidentally CTB too early by opening it in a small enough space.

Open Dewar isn't the correct approach. You'd have to empty the LN2 into containers with a wider surface area (preferably styrofoam, metal, or other). Once uninsulated and exposed to atmosphere, LN2 begins boiling off at a 1:700 expansion coefficient, rapidly creating an oxygen-deficient environment, resulting coma and death within a few minutes.

A one-person pop-up tent for $60 with a sufficiently large (but not too narrow) exhaust vent atop could be an ideal poor-man's confined space.

The ideal case would be a compact vehicle (one's own or rented) with the sunroof or window cracked sufficiently as an exhaust orifice as the LN2 degasess from bottom to top expelling out any oxygenated composite air as it evaporates from bottom up forcing internal atmosphere out.

There are risks handing cryogenic fluids which can be mitigated with PPE and ensuring that the styrofoam containers are secured so that they will not spill or cascade out before and during the moments leading up to death.
 
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