OceanBlue

OceanBlue

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Jun 13, 2021
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Please post anything informative (this is not for discussions, respect my dying wish and do not pollute this thread).😉🌹


There's nothing I believe in more than Antinatalism and Efilism. This forum allows a little glimpse into human suffering and condition, but there are countless other reasons why we should reject Nature and work together to end life (and death) on this planet. It's the most rational and responsible approach liberating everyone, the actual Total Liberation. As long as we don't, we make a mockery out of our existence, we power the machine that keeps hurting us (and others).

If we were a rational species, we already wouldn't exist. Humans notably aren't - it's important to remember that before getting all opinionated. We are often socialised the wrong way, lack awareness/empathy, have unconscious biases and instincts that work against us. Nature has never selected for our well-being, just behaviours that ensure reproductive success. It's not relevant to seek answers as to why, nothing can justify this suffering.

What the anti-suffering movement means for me: ending Wildlife food webs, not breeding any sentient beings (human or nonhuman), and supporting left-wing policies as long as people continue to exist - everyday essentials should be a guarantee, no one should be bullied or discriminated for their characteristics, disabilities, appearance, people shouldn't be forced into labour, sentient beings shouldn't be commodified and slaughtered for taste. Like all the other types of progress, this is also going against Nature, as it is not interested in convenience, equality, or peace.

The initial books to read:

David Benatar "Better Never To Have Been"
Thomas Ligotti "The Conspiracy Against the Human Race"


🖤 If you haven't reproduced, you're the most successful 🖤
 
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Daxter_87

Daxter_87

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I highly recommend you to read Ever Deeper Honesty (if you haven't yet). It takes it to the next level. I'm personally not reading it right now because my head is already a mess, and that book is devastating. However, it's without a doubt my reference number one and I've learnt a lot from it.

Cheers from a fellow efilist.
 
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TheSpookyNameGuy

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I highly recommend you to read Ever Deeper Honesty (if you haven't yet). It takes it to the next level. I'm personally not reading it right now because my head is already a mess, and that book is devastating. However, it's without a doubt my reference number one and I've learnt a lot from it.

Cheers from a fellow efilist.
Got a link for that, im not sure if what im looking at is the right book, its showing a mixture of stuff?
 
Daxter_87

Daxter_87

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May 28, 2023
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Got a link for that, im not sure if what im looking at is the right book, its showing a mixture of stuff?
You can read it online or download it for free from its website. The website is called exactly the same as the book (Ever Deeper Honesty).
 
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NumbItAll

NumbItAll

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Nature has never selected for our well-being, just behaviours that ensure reproductive success.
Exactly this, we were not built to thrive. Nature/life/evolution are not benevolent, they are cold, uncaring, and cruel, no matter how much we try to dress it up with pointless "advancements." If anything, harmful behavior is rewarded, which is why all of life is just creatures killing and eating each other. Aging and diseases are also perfectly "fine" as long as the organism survives long enough to replicate its DNA. Truly horrifying stuff once any amount of scrutiny is applied.
 
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Life is unacceptable
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Antinatalist handbook - https://antinatalisthandbook.org/languages

If You Must Give Them A Gift, The Give Them the Gift of Nonexistence by Matti Häyry - https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...nonexistence/2D6A8DD4EA49B6154471243CD65FAE77

Ever Deeper Honesty - In video - [Part 1/5] [2/5] [3/5] [4/5] [5/5]
In document -

Efilism: Efilist's Reasoning (Russian Narration with English subtitles) -

Efilism Wiki - http://web.archive.org/web/20210324182039/https://efilism.fandom.com/wiki/Efilism_Wiki

Exit Duty Generator by Matti Häyry - https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...21FF0A4A3D0DB81230192A042#.Y--yHSzMShg.reddit

Promortalism: Promortalism and the just kill yourself argument - https://counterintuitive.home.blog/2019/11/01/promortalism-and-the-just-kill-yourself-argument/

Promortalism: Jiwoon Hwang - Promortalism -

Reducing Risks of Astronomical Suffering: A Neglected Priority - https://longtermrisk.org/reducing-r..._also_more_suffering_than_is_commonly_assumed
 
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OceanBlue

OceanBlue

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YouTube Part 1- there's really something for everyone

Freeda Animals Why I'm an #Antinatalist


Benedictines TheVegan My only advice for young people!!!


The NihilAnand Why am I an antinatalist? (Went viral for wanting to sue his parents for bringing him into existence)


Inmendham - Life, Suffering, Antinatalism (Gary Inmendham created the term Efilism and has a YT channel @inmendham. A somewhat controversial figure with very honest and blunt opinions, but I found they stem from compassion, most of us think much worse in secret.)


Antinatalism podcasts (With Danny Shine, AN activist who is a bio parent and therefore a role model for all bio parents)


Lawrence Anton chats with Danny Shine
 
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OceanBlue

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Antinatalists do not feel they have a right to impose life or death.
Antinatalism reduces the number of deaths, including voluntary.
Pronatalism is the ultimate death cult.


YouTube Part 2
Vegan Space Scientist Why I Will Never Have a Child - Antinatalism and ethics


Rethinking Antinatalism is the ultimate answer to all life's problems


The Truth Catcher Why It's Better NOT To Exist: Anti-Natalism Mini-Movie


ANbackup channel 8 Questions for Natalists (Danny Thomas was a co-founder of The Right To No Longer Exist (CTB))


The Prison Called Life Forced into existence.


Pointless Rat Race "Your Parents Scammed You"


Marc AntiNatalist The core of AntiNatalism is mercy and empathy


antinatalist-thoughts Why I Am An Antinatalist


Tia Rose the suffering never ends
 
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Youtube channel with many edited clips of Inmendham's videos on antinatalism, extinctionism, wild animal suffering, assisted suicide, veganism, ETC - https://youtube.com/@graytaich0
 
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OceanBlue

OceanBlue

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Articles

The Guardian I wish I'd never been born: the rise of the anti-natalists
The New Yorker The Case for Not Being Born (with D. Benatar)
TNYT Opinion by David Benatar
Our Cruel Treatment of Animals Led to the Coronavirus



Life is never worth starting.
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I won't provide links because I think it's against the rules. But I will provide a list:

- Mistro (a hip-hop/rap singer who advocates for slaughtered animals and antinatalism)
- Born Into A Corrupt System
- Cátaro (a gnostic antinatalist, quite eccentric and has some misogynistic and homophobic opinions, which is obviously very wrong. He believes that this world is ruled by a demiurge)
- Crow Gene (really recommended, very creative and has a lot of good songs and clips)
- DerivedEnergy (really good one)
- Life is Overrated96 (I think he often approaches the topic in a humorous way, which makes his content very digestible)
- TheLordSatan X (this is probably one of the smartest, I think he/she is a philosopher and wrote the whole EFILism wiki)
- Emil Cioran (a philosopher and writer)
- Albert Caraco (another writer)
- Philipp Mainländer (a Schopenhauer disciple, he is known for his philosophy of redemption, which basically means that everything will end in nothingness)
 
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- AnomicIndividual: https://m.youtube.com/@AnomicIndividual

- Anti Natalism: https://m.youtube.com/@antinatalism1

- Antinatalism International (YouTube channel): https://m.youtube.com/@antinatalisminternational4296/about

- Antinatalism International (website): https://antinatalisminternational.com/

- condenados a vivir (gnostic antinatalist, sadly it's in Spanish, so it might be hard to understand if you don't speak said language): https://m.youtube.com/@condenadosavivir/videos

- Sophy Philia: https://m.youtube.com/@SophyPhilia/videos

- Steve Brown: https://m.youtube.com/@stevebrown8292/videos