Story Another reported SN suicide. This time in Florida.

[Darkhaven]

Autopsy: Medical examiner rules Florida Polytechnic University student killed himself

www-theledger-com.cdn.ampproject.org

Another Student.

 

[Daniela]

He drank it in his dorm room?

 

[Darkhaven]

He drank it in his dorm room?

Yup

 

[Lethe]

This happened last December and they're only reporting on it now?

 

[Darkhaven]

This happened last December and they're only reporting on it now?

It can spread like wilfire.
Specially if they find out there is a link between all of these SN suicides.
It's not hard to figure out that it may not be coincidence.

 

[Lethe]

It can spread like wilfire.
Specially if they find out there is a link between all of these SN suicides.
It's not hard to figure out that it may not be coincidence.

I don't understand what you're getting at. Do you mean they withheld the cause of death in order to prevent copycats?

 

[bornsinner]

how do you get hold of SN? I have my own method I just want to know

 

[Stan]

So he drank some in his room then went out to a wooded area - that was very risky

 

[Darkhaven]

So he drank some in his room then went out to a wooded area - that was very risky

It got the job done.
One more sucessful case.
Hopefully it will work for me too.

 

[Stan]

It got the job done.
One more sucessful case.
Hopefully it will work for me too.

I keep thinking of funkygibbon going out for a smoke, collapsing and being saved by his neighbour.

 

[Rachel74]

I keep thinking of funkygibbon going out for a smoke, collapsing and being saved by his neighbour.

Me too

I don't understand what you're getting at. Do you mean they withheld the cause of death in order to prevent copycats?

Probably they did.

how do you get hold of SN? I have my own method I just want to know

Read the mega thread!
Actually read all the threads and educate yourself. I have my own method but I've studied them all.
Familiarise yourself with the forum.

 

[bigj75]

interesting

 

[MeltingHeart]

So he drank some in his room then went out to a wooded area - that was very risky

yeah i thought that was an interesting point, as he could have easily collapsed on walking, he was lucky.

 

[Darkhaven]

I don't understand what you're getting at. Do you mean they withheld the cause of death in order to prevent copycats?

I meant that they are probably starting to notice a pattern on all of these SN suicides and reports like this may become all to common in the near future.

 

[MeltingHeart]

I meant that they are probably starting to notice a pattern on all of these SN suicides and reports like this may become all to common in the near future.

do you mean one report gives others the idea- to find out about method?

 

[Darkhaven]

do you mean one report gives others the idea- to find out about method?

It raises awareness about the method.
Let's say that next week 2 more reports of SN suicides are published. Some people who happen to read all of these reports, (journalists most likely), they will probably turn their attentions to SN as they did to N...

 

[MeltingHeart]

There was another one in the UK in Sept-they were also found out of the home, not sure if its ok to share all these news stories & put links etc, due to the concept of other judging that we are 'promoting' or 'celebrating' a suicide on here- Which of course is not the intention. Im not too sure if there is much point sharing anyways- except for those in any doubt or naysayers- each one is certainly further confirmation that it is a reliable method- but I guess generally that is accepted on here now anyway.

It raises awareness about the method.
Let's say that next week 2 more reports of SN suicides are published. Some people who happen to read all of these reports, (journalists most likely), they will probably turn their attentions to SN as they did to N...

oh no- hope not! kind of glad if it goes under reported to avoid copy cat deaths-keeps it more under the radar for us

 

[BPD_LE]

This is why I've got all my SN stuff now. I'd advise others to do the same. There will be more reports, then a media panic, resulting in a major clamp down in availability. They just need one major network to pick it up and mass hysteria will pursue.

 

[MeltingHeart]

I do find it interesting (suprising perhaps?) that he took it & then walked somewhere- as I had thought/ read that the effects come on relatively quickly, I would have thought he would have been too dizzy, heart racing etc too much to take it- and then to go and walk somewhere?

 

[fightingsioux]

This is why I've got all my SN stuff now. I'd advise others to do the same. There will be more reports, then a media panic, resulting in a major clamp down in availability. They just need one major network to pick it up and mass hysteria will pursue.

Regarding the worry that media coverage of SN CTB's may cause some sorty of "clamp down". I'm just starting my serious research, so I'm certainly not trying to appear as an expert. Been reading all the megathreads in the the reseach section, now beginning the SN megathread.

Last night I watched the video of Dr. Nitschke at a 2017 conference, discussing the pros and cons of SA and SN. One of the criteria that he and ERGO use to rate the various methods is what they term restrictability. They list SA as restrictable, and SN as non-restrictable, mainly because of the multiple common uses of SN and that fact that SA can be explosive upon contact with metal while SN cannot.

Would be interested in hearing from any knowledgeable posters (Stan?) as to their thoughts about the restrictabilty issue.

 

[MeltingHeart]

Regarding the worry that media coverage of SN CTB's may cause some sorty of "clamp down". I'm just starting my serious research, so I'm certainly not trying to appear as an expert. Been reading all the megathreads in the the reseach section, now beginning the SN megathread.

Last night I watched the video of Dr. Nitschke at a 2017 conference, discussing the pros and cons of SA and SN. One of the criteria that he and ERGO use to rate the various methods is what they term restrictability. They list SA as restrictable, and SN as non-restrictable, mainly because of the multiple common uses of SN and that fact that SA can be explosive upon contact with metal while SN cannot.

Would be interested in hearing from any knowledgeable posters (Stan?) as to their thoughts about the restrictabilty issue.

may I ask is that video available to watch or do you need to be a member or Xit?

 

[Stan]

The thing about SA it can be used as a precursor to an explosive device as you mentioned. Hence the restrictions placed upon it in the sad world we have been living in over the past few decades with both domestic and international terrorism. So in some countries SA is a very reportable substance if someone outside of manufacturing/industrial or equivalent purchases it, i.e Joe/Josephine Public. Looking at the availability in my country (UK), there are a few labs that sell SA, I have not gone through the whole process to see if they deliver to a private address using a personal credit card, but one site did state clearly that a police check would happen prior to delivery.

One thing I do not like about SA is the potential danger it poses to those who find your body through the Hydrazoic acid it produces when it makes contact with your stomach acids. If you vomit, this will come up. If you have a hero who tries mouth to mouth resuscitation then they will be hurt.

 

[*KNAZ*]

Hooray. They said NITRITE and not nitrATE. I'm going to celebrate by ordering another bottle In case they try to ban it.

 

[fightingsioux]

may I ask is that video available to watch or do you need to be a member or Xit?

It's on the third or fourth page of the SN megathread.

 

[Stan]

Just looked at the site where I obtained mine from, UK suppliers have now gone

 

[*KNAZ*]

Just looked at the site where I obtained mine from, UK suppliers have now gone

Just ordered a 500 g bottle. Items were still available on (name redacted) in US. Better to have and not need, than to need and not be able to get.

 

[fightingsioux]

The thing about SA it can be used as a precursor to an explosive device as you mentioned. Hence the restrictions placed upon it in the sad world we have been living in over the past few decades with both domestic and international terrorism. So in some countries SA is a very reportable substance if someone outside of manufacturing/industrial or equivalent purchases it, i.e Joe/Josephine Public. Looking at the availability in my country (UK), there ae a few labs that sell SA, I have not gone through the whole process to see if they deliver to a private address using a personal credit card, but one site did state clearly that a police check would happen prior to delivery.

One thing I do not like about SA is the potential danger it poses to those who find your body through the Hydrazoic acid it produces when it makes contact with your stomach acids. If you vomit, this will come up. If you have a hero who tries mouth to mouth resuscitation then they will be hurt.

Yes, I know what you're talking about as far as the acid production. However, there are three points which should be seriously considered. First, vomiting only happens in a minority of cases. Second, no professional paramedic uses direct lips-to-lips contact anymore, they use a mask. And third, in a major change of position, the American Heart Association and most other organizations now say to skip the mouth-to-mouth breathing and just press on the chest, in other words hands-only CPR.

You're certainly correct that this is an issue with SA that can't be totally ignored, but personally, it's not a game-breaker. I'm more concerned with the difficulty of obtaining it, and the damage it would do to me in case of an unsuccessful attempt!

 

[Dystopia]

Would be interested in hearing from any knowledgeable posters (Stan?) as to their thoughts about the restrictabilty issue.

SN will always be widely available for business use, it's just a case of how many sources will catch on to the link it has to suicide from either finding out themselves or being informed.

It will always vary from country to country; it's definitely become less available for personal purchases from businesses in the UK at least.

It would be nice if people would stop frequently mentioning brands and websites where they purchased theirs from.. Unfortunately there will always be someone that slips up even though the sourcing rule has been introduced

 

[Stan]

I'm more concerned with the difficulty of obtaining it, and the damage it would do to me in case of an unsuccessful attempt!

I think the only clue I can give is that in the UK as mention above, they will do a police check prior to delivery. I guess there will be some inappropriate profiling done there.

 

[*KNAZ*]

I think the only clue I can give is that in the UK as mention above, they will do a police check prior to delivery. I guess there will be some inappropriate profiling done there.

God help the UK and its encroaching iron fisted nanny state.