Am I delusional?

[Cockney_Rebel]

I believe in reincarnation.

I believe we were created by beings, far superior to us.

We were put on this earth to run the test, to endure whatever is thrown at us. Be that good, or bad.

We are being studied, as a whole, and they are building a better world.

They observe how evil one person can be to another, and they want to eradicate that.

I believe that those of us who have suffered most during this life cycle, will be rewarded in the next.

I have been told, by a psychiatrist, that my beliefs are delusional and I am unwell, but I feel so strongly that this is true.

We are all on a journey, and I am looking forward to the next phase of mine.

That's why I have limited fear of "death." Yes, the body perishes, but the soul moves on, into its next form.

Am I delusional for believing in this, so strongly?

I'm sure there are others who think along these lines. Are we special, in some way? Have we already reincarnated, and have some remaining subliminal memories of our previous journey?

I don't know.

All I know is that I truly believe in this, and it is the reason I have attempted so many times.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

I'm gonna have to agree with your psychiatrist on this one

 

[cyanol]

Honestly I feel almost every religion is as delusional as your belief... So no need to be ashamed.

 

[rationalis]

If the soul survives where does it come from? Where is it before being implanted into humans? And how were the billions of souls that did not exist a thousand years ago, created today?

If this is a simulation, hopefully it is a digital simulation or something entirely incomprehensible.

I don't think you are delusional for questioning reality. The world is crazy. But it helps to get through the day by living by the rules. Though many people live in denial.

 

[Sister of the Moon]

No, I don't believe you are delusional. I believe exactly the same things. The trouble with scientific minded people such as psychiatrists is that they refuse to open their minds to the possibility that there are things that science just can't measure at the moment.

 

[Crazy4u]

no you are not delusional. Many people believe in the things you believe in

 

[Cockney_Rebel]

No, I don't believe you are delusional. I believe exactly the same things. The trouble with scientific minded people such as psychiatrists is that they refuse to open their minds to the possibility that there are things that science just can't measure at the moment.

Exactly.

We only use a small portion of our brain, because our bodies literally cannot develop the energy to fully power it.

That's why the general person is limited in their ability to think such things.

Psychiatrists read books, and study what has come before them. Thus, as you say, they rely merely on science which has been developed by humans, who are incapable of seeing, acknowledging and understanding beliefs such as ours.

They, psychiatrists are limited by the rules that they have been taught.

I, we … are not.

 

[Rain_Hermit]

Reincarnation theory of some religions declares that those who ctb will not reincarnate at all and in the end will not attain salvation.They will be roaming this earth as spirits ,facing eternal torment .It's a brilliant way of controlling the masses with fearmongering.
If God turns out to be real,we can be sure that we are his guinea pigs, nothing more.
Whatever you believe in ,I hope it brings you peace.

 

[FuneralCry]

There is no evidence of reincarnation existing. Many people live in denial of the fact that life is completely meaningless so they believe in fictional concepts like reincarnation. I believe we are only here because of evolution and life is just pointless suffering. Everything is determined by random factors, such as luck and chance. Many people who suffer more than others are just unlucky. I believe that after this life there is non existence, we do not experience anything ever again.

 

[yellowjasmine88]

Reincarnation theory of some religions declares that those who ctb will not reincarnate at all and in the end will not attain salvation.They will be roaming this earth as spirits ,facing eternal torment .It's a brilliant way of controlling the masses with fearmongering.
If God turns out to be real,we can be sure that we are his guinea pigs, nothing more.
Whatever you believe in ,I hope it brings you peace.

I agree with your perspective. I hope the same for you.

 

[Disco Biscuit]

A belief in reincarnation isn't delusional at all.

Have you ever looked at the work of Dr Jim Tucker? He's a psychiastrist at the University of Virginia and he specialises in past-life memories in children.

 

[noname223]

I believe in reincarnation.

I believe we were created by beings, far superior to us.

We were put on this earth to run the test, to endure whatever is thrown at us. Be that good, or bad.

We are being studied, as a whole, and they are building a better world.

They observe how evil one person can be to another, and they want to eradicate that.

I believe that those of us who have suffered most during this life cycle, will be rewarded in the next.

I have been told, by a psychiatrist, that my beliefs are delusional and I am unwell, but I feel so strongly that this is true.

We are all on a journey, and I am looking forward to the next phase of mine.

That's why I have limited fear of "death." Yes, the body perishes, but the soul moves on, into its next form.

Am I delusional for believing in this, so strongly?

I'm sure there are others who think along these lines. Are we special, in some way? Have we already reincarnated, and have some remaining subliminal memories of our previous journey?

I don't know.

All I know is that I truly believe in this, and it is the reason I have attempted so many times.

I also have the feeling like your psychiatrist that this is delusional. I had psychosis in the past. And especially if you believe like 100% this must be true and you think like A LOT about it. This is a sign for me when I am delusional. For example when I cannot sleep anymore because I am ruminating so much.
My advice would be to be careful about suicide in a delusional state. I have heard of other people who want to kill themselves during psychosis. I know a girl. Like she does not want to die when she is in a normal state. But during psychosis she thinks she has to ctb.

Do you had psychosis/paranoia in the past? Be really careful about what you are doing in this state. You cannot make a rational decision during psychosis. I have heard that especially religion content is very common for having delusions about. I have met people who thought they were Jesus and that stuff. Oh that stuff about havinng the feeling to be obsevered is also very common during psychosis. During my psychosis I also had the feeling some people would test me. (But other human beings.)
Like I think it would be good in that case to trust your psychiatrist.

Readers who read this. Please be careful here to say he is not delusional. I think some of you do not know much about paranoia, psychosis and delusional thinking. Like we did not experience him in real life. He should not trust in the assesment of some internet strangers like us, rather than a professional who had much experience with psychosis and really met him in real life. We cannot give him a diagnosis. I know this is partly against my argument. But at least I have A LOT of experience of how it is to be delusional.

 

[Snake of Eden]

I dont think you are delusional. I agree with most your points except reincarnation that to me doesnt make any sense. I think to some degree that the metaphysical world outline is imprinted in our subconscious psyche just like in Jungian archetypes. It is accessible and some people can sense what is the universe is about. It is a belief after all just like religions and I to have enough humiliaty to admit that Those things can end up being what is out there or not.

P.S. Just to clarify my position on reincarnation, i do think past lives exist just not like in the classical reincarnation sense. What I mean by that is past life is an existence that preceded incarnating in the material world. It is not that we were other individuals from centuries ago though. Thats different

 

[Callie Arcale]

You're no more delusional than billions of people who believe a virgin got pregnant with God's child.

Beliefs are per definition personal experiences. You can believe anything you want.

 

[Disco Biscuit]

Readers who read this. Please be careful here to say he is not delusional. I think some of you do not know much about paranoia, psychosis and delusional thinking.

There's plenty of evidence that past-life memories are real. I'm not saying whether op is delusional or not - just that it's my belief that believing in reincarnation isn't delusional.

 

[Snake of Eden]

Readers who read this. Please be careful here to say he is not delusional. I think some of you do not know much about paranoia, psychosis and delusional thinking. Like we did not experience him in real life. He should not trust in the assesment of some internet strangers like us, rather than a professional who had much experience with psychosis and really met him in real life. We cannot give him a diagnosis. I know this is partly against my argument. But at least I have A LOT of experience of how it is to be delusional.

Yeah i agree with this.

 

[Cockney_Rebel]

I also have the feeling like your psychiatrist that this is delusional. I had psychosis in the past. And especially if you believe like 100% this must be true and you think like A LOT about it. This is a sign for me when I am delusional. For example when I cannot sleep anymore because I am ruminating so much.
My advice would be to be careful about suicide in a delusional state. I have heard of other people who want to kill themselves during psychosis. I know a girl. Like she does not want to die when she is in a normal state. But during psychosis she thinks she has to ctb.

Do you had psychosis/paranoia in the past? Be really careful about what you are doing in this state. You cannot make a rational decision during psychosis. I have heard that especially religion content is very common for having delusions about. I have met people who thought they were Jesus and that stuff. Oh that stuff about havinng the feeling to be obsevered is also very common during psychosis. During my psychosis I also had the feeling some people would test me. (But other human beings.)
Like I think it would be good in that case to trust your psychiatrist.

Readers who read this. Please be careful here to say he is not delusional. I think some of you do not know much about paranoia, psychosis and delusional thinking. Like we did not experience him in real life. He should not trust in the assesment of some internet strangers like us, rather than a professional who had much experience with psychosis and really met him in real life. We cannot give him a diagnosis. I know this is partly against my argument. But at least I have A LOT of experience of how it is to be delusional.

You sound like a lovely, caring person.

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

I actually have a comorbid diagnoses of EUPD (BPD) & OCD.

 

[TooConscious]

Beings 'far superior' would have to be sadistic and evil, whihh therfore would mean that existence must be evil if all we know is pain and suffering at our sadist creators. I believe something similar but in no way praise any bring for creating another.

 

[Cockney_Rebel]

Beings 'far superior' would have to be sadistic and evil, whihh therfore would mean that existence must be evil if all we know is pain and suffering at our sadist creators. I believe something similar but in no way praise any bring for creating another.

I completely disagree.

By your logic, if one human is superior re intellect to another, then he or she is evil?

Absolutely not.

 

[stellabelle]

I believe in reincarnation.

I believe we were created by beings, far superior to us.

We were put on this earth to run the test, to endure whatever is thrown at us. Be that good, or bad.

We are being studied, as a whole, and they are building a better world.

They observe how evil one person can be to another, and they want to eradicate that.

I believe that those of us who have suffered most during this life cycle, will be rewarded in the next.

I have been told, by a psychiatrist, that my beliefs are delusional and I am unwell, but I feel so strongly that this is true.

We are all on a journey, and I am looking forward to the next phase of mine.

That's why I have limited fear of "death." Yes, the body perishes, but the soul moves on, into its next form.

Am I delusional for believing in this, so strongly?

I'm sure there are others who think along these lines. Are we special, in some way? Have we already reincarnated, and have some remaining subliminal memories of our previous journey?

I don't know.

All I know is that I truly believe in this, and it is the reason I have attempted so many times.

Man oh man!

People are crazy. They can be crazy. About this thought pattern, this religion, that religion.

You can "guess" and believe in whatever it is that you do. It doesn't mean that it is or isn't valid.

Mainstream society picks and prods.

Are you religious? If so, what?

So if you say atheist, some people say what the fuck?! Why?! Jesus is real!

If you say Abrahamic faith, some people will say, what the fuck?! Why?! Islam, Catholicism, Christianity, etc.
Do you really believe that stuff?

Buddhist, rebirth - what the fuck, are you crazy?!

(Those aren't my personal responses but those are the responses people give. Delusional, they call all of it delusions.)


I think some people are legitimately digging for deeper answers throughout time.

It's even more funny when you answer it different each and every time. What is the purpose of asking?

I try to be understanding of multiple perspectives, some "make sense" more than others. But because people are ever so nosy or ever so curious, it's best to just keep it to yourself.

I've heard some delusional shit before. I've also pretended some delusional shit to mimic people and try to gain understanding of those perspectives while observing and "profiling" those things.

I've had multiple mysterious events, synchronicity.

People gaslight one another with religion or use it for excuses. So I mean… I think people need to be patient and kind. Regardless of whatever tradition they "practice" or "acknowledge" or "have" or "don't."

The same multiple perspective discussion point.

But it's delusion when people start overdosing or using drugs and then believe their encounters are "real" - now what's sad is when people mistake poorly constructed humor for seriousness. Because there are too many "jokes" that people think are "serious" and too many language interpretations or bad people that minimize the "laugh" part of it. There are also "figures of speech" and misinterpretation of those figures of speech.

"Sentence, blah blah blah.." - this is a true statement, I am serious.

"Sentence, blah blah blah…." - this is a figure of speech, it's a "joke" tied into it.

"Sentence, blah blah blah blah…." - this is just bullshitting.

So when people refuse to acknowledge disclaimers of the above, then take it for the wrong ride, and then fuck with you about it, ahhhh, fun fun fun.

Then if you speak more serious, they say you're "not the same" etc.

But if you have humor, "nobody takes you seriously."

So I mean.

Balances of shit. Shit, how it is worded, how it is said, how it is open ended.


1. Example: someone gets drunk and calls the neighbors wife a slut and berates her etc. does that make it true? No, the guy is a douchebag whether or not the person is promiscuous. - the man is delusional and fails to see the error of his ways.
And might still maintain that idea the following day. Regardless of sexual history it is inappropriate.
And if the man participated in the same behavior he berates, it proves exactly how narcissistic and ignorant/delusional the person is.

2. Example: someone overdoses, their brain starts making them talk all religious and shit, and they don't really know where they are because of toxic substances, prescription or non prescription. They are "delusional" in the moment.
Then there are those who remain "delusional" afterward. They might not even be a part of the religion they are speaking about!

Example: figure of speech: "Jesus Christ, fuck, dude, not cool!" Are they speaking to Jesus himself and delusional, or are they using a figure of speech?

So. I mean.

It depends on the person really.

People don't even know the difference between sarcasm and reality.
"Hey…. Wanna know a secret……"
"What?"
"The moon…. It's a flashlight."
Then watch the person freak out and act stupid and go "im so worried about you! You're delusssssional."
That's even more funny when you flip the coin and say, "what? You're fuckin delusional since you think I'm being serious, dumbass."

Good fuckin god, I could go on forever about people, their religious ideas, their nonsense and so on.

Buddy oh buddy.

So it depends on time/place/audience/discussion/purpose.


Don't forget the tin foil hats while we're here.
(Meant to be a gentle, "silly" comment, not a "serious" or insulting one.)

Maybe I'm…. Blah blah blah. No, I'm kidding, but I say this for fun, just to laugh and joke about religion, or this, or that.

Sure, I'm blahblahblah.

And we see responses of different people.

Tadaladeeeehdah. Just laugh and say hey. I'm not serious when I say this. It's a "joke" and it's meant to be "funny."

Certain humor, certain perspectives, certain responses.

I could be blahblahblahblahblah, and it doesn't make it true, but it doesn't make it untrue. We all "play a part." Depends on circumstances, interpretation, laughs, and reasons for doing so.

You might get a slut butt that says they're the whore of Babylon, just for the funny.

And then people say the person is delusional when they're joking.

It really depends on time/place/words/so on.

 

[TooConscious]

I completely disagree.

By your logic, if one human is superior re intellect to another, then he or she is evil?

Absolutely not.

I did not say that whatsoever. Simply, creators are evil.

 

[9BBN]

Do you have compelling reasons to believe these things? Why doesn't it convince other people?

Is there anything that you could learn which, if true, would lower your confidence in these things being true? If not, then why not?

 

[little helpers]

I believe in reincarnation.

I believe we were created by beings, far superior to us.

We were put on this earth to run the test, to endure whatever is thrown at us. Be that good, or bad.

We are being studied, as a whole, and they are building a better world.

They observe how evil one person can be to another, and they want to eradicate that.

I believe that those of us who have suffered most during this life cycle, will be rewarded in the next.

I have been told, by a psychiatrist, that my beliefs are delusional and I am unwell, but I feel so strongly that this is true.

We are all on a journey, and I am looking forward to the next phase of mine.

That's why I have limited fear of "death." Yes, the body perishes, but the soul moves on, into its next form.

Am I delusional for believing in this, so strongly?

I'm sure there are others who think along these lines. Are we special, in some way? Have we already reincarnated, and have some remaining subliminal memories of our previous journey?

I don't know.

All I know is that I truly believe in this, and it is the reason I have attempted so many times.

everyone's got beliefs 'bout death. and it's only gonna be a belief. cuz no one knows what happens then anyways. but if this is the *sole* reason for your attempts, well, I need this cuz apparently that killed off your SI completely. in-wired, survival instinct.

think I'm yet to know someone not born with that. so what I think is, should this be your *sole* reason to die, you won't. you just won't. not yet. *if* you been trying to die *only* for this, I might say suicide is your hobby. now that's prolly the weirdest thing I've ever said. smh.

but you know, I've known someone with schizophrenia, and he truly belived he's in Hell once in a blue moon. so frankly, I don't know. I don't know enough about delusions to be your shrink. but there is a chance. there is a chance for anything, honestly. go find a good psychologist, a Buddist one even (what you said seems to be quite Buddist), and ask them 'bout this.

rules said we ain't no doctors. and we ain't.

 

[lofticries]

No one knows what the afterlife is like except the dead. And it will forever stay like that.

Wouldn't be surprised if some higher being is trolling us with all these reincarnation coincidences and near death experiences.

 

[stellabelle]

Do you have compelling reasons to believe these things? Why doesn't it convince other people?

Is there anything that you could learn which, if true, would lower your confidence in these things being true? If not, then why not?

Not answering for the person but I want to throw in $0.02 -

Compelling reasons to believe those things - people tell others to introspect, have their own ideas, think freely, use their imagination when seeking "answers."

Why doesn't it convince other people? - it doesn't have to convince anyone, it's their own idea - and there might be many people who have similar ideas. It doesn't make it true or false.

Lowering confidence in this idea or pattern of ideas - well, I'll "convert" to mainstream religion and say this is "better." Or, hey, I'll just throw this idea out as a silly idea or "possibility." - it doesn't make it true or false, it's just an idea.
And why not? Just because each person is different and unique in "spiritual" "quests".

 

[9BBN]

Why doesn't it convince other people? - it doesn't have to convince anyone, it's their own idea - and there might be many people who have similar ideas. It doesn't make it true or false.

Lowering confidence in this idea or pattern of ideas - well, I'll "convert" to mainstream religion and say this is "better." Or, hey, I'll just throw this idea out as a silly idea or "possibility." - it doesn't make it true or false, it's just an idea.
And why not? Just because each person is different and unique in "spiritual" "quests".

That's a good point. It doesn't have to convince anyone. But if it doesn't convince someone, and you know why, then that's valuable insight into the logic behind your belief.

 

[Someone123]

I believe in reincarnation.

I believe we were created by beings, far superior to us.

We were put on this earth to run the test, to endure whatever is thrown at us. Be that good, or bad.

We are being studied, as a whole, and they are building a better world.

They observe how evil one person can be to another, and they want to eradicate that.

I believe that those of us who have suffered most during this life cycle, will be rewarded in the next.

I have been told, by a psychiatrist, that my beliefs are delusional and I am unwell, but I feel so strongly that this is true.

We are all on a journey, and I am looking forward to the next phase of mine.

That's why I have limited fear of "death." Yes, the body perishes, but the soul moves on, into its next form.

Am I delusional for believing in this, so strongly?

I'm sure there are others who think along these lines. Are we special, in some way? Have we already reincarnated, and have some remaining subliminal memories of our previous journey?

I don't know.

All I know is that I truly believe in this, and it is the reason I have attempted so many times.

I believe in some of what you believe in but not all of it- no one really knows for sure. There is some pretty strong evidence that some people had past lives- when small children bring up memories from previous lives that they couldn't have known about and then details are confirmed through research later it is pretty convincing. Ther also seems to be evidence of people going to heaven, or becoming ghosts, and some stories related to hell are scary and may be true. Some nde's (near death experiences) are faith-based and some are not. So there are a range of optins for what may happen next. How the pieces of this all fit together is not clear.

 

[stellabelle]

While on the page, off topic for the thread but I have to say I see a difference in your idea versus other ideas that are deemed "delusional" or that I see as "delusional"

People who fear cellphones or 5G, very ignorant and paranoid.

The only time I've "feared" a cellphone was when a GPS was used to cause harm and for actual stalking or harassment.

I've walked away from phones etc to just try and have some time to meditate without a phone or interact without being behind a screen and some fuckface stole it and wanted to get into shit that they shouldn't have gotten into. NOT COOL. CREEP. I guess i was "delusional" to think this fuckface would shut his trap or stop being a PEST. Instead he took off with a bunch of my belongings. Just to be a piece of shit. Was I stupid for that? No, yes and no. Little fuckface. Same as a bad roommate that likes stealing…AHEM.


Okay, so back on track of delusional shit…

I knew someone who feared new state ID cards because they "thought" there was a tracking device in them. How stupid. Even if there was, why do you care? And why the fuck do you really have tinfoil on an ID card? I can guarantee everything that a person does is "monitored" regardless.

People who believe they have "rights" to abuse their spouse or "children" or dependent adults - absolutely delusional and laws need to change. People are not possessions, nor are they physical objects to use/abuse/take anger out on/toss.

People who don't believe in AUTONOMY. Those are delusional people. What makes it worse is they do not accept rejection, they delude themselves repeatedly and when you try to "please them" they cannot be pleased.

People who twist what is being said - think of 100 degree weather and walking into a fuel station. Asking the two clerks if they can turn On the air outside? Meaning air for tires. One clerk understands air for tires, the other clerk thinks that you are "joking" and saying can you please turn on the air [conditioning] outside?

Now, misinterpreting that as the person who walked in as a guest - one might think the clerks are "messing with" them but they weren't. No need to accuse them of being "smart" or insulting them for their responses. One phrase and two different answers and they are not "wrong", just two different answers to one question.

Also; stores that require ID for cigarette purchases regardless of age. The public refuses to accept that store policy says THIS, and it has to be THIS WAY regardless of the "inconvenience" for the customer. It's not the clerk messing with the customer. It's the customer being unruly. Customers are not always right.

Moving onward in perspectives and kindness:
A person compliments another person - appearance isn't everything, but it is how a person might "express themself" - that doesn't mean the person complimenting is "flirting" - there is something to appreciate about each unique individual. It's what's inside the person that can be deemed as unappealing. And it doesn't make someone a brown noser either - it means they observed something and wanted to mention it.


People who think labels make people "important" - they don't. So clothing brands etc. sure some stuff is more durable than others, price point might be more or less, and purpose might be more or less. It might be "fun" to wear and phase out and then donate it. That's what's sad is when bad housemates throw peoples things in the garbage rather than giving them away when the person leaves because they don't want to play that sick little cat and mouse game with a drug dealer and his skank. Especially things that are pretty much new. Pretty evil, right? And lots of people that would have enjoyed those things.

Must be "delusional" for thinking that people would do the kind thing instead of the opposite.

So i guess it depends on the person, the "belief" and so on.

Leaving doors unlocked: "nothing will happen" - umm, are you sure about that? Let's think twice, three times. Not okay. Not okay at all. It's not just about STUFF, it's about safety.

Calling a crisis line? They don't help - not a delusion, it's the truth. They just want to call the cops on you and bust you for whatever to turn over a profit and make you look bad for fucking snapping. So. So so. So so.

Anyway.

More shit:
Pro life, have babies!
Oh, you can't support them? MY TAXES shouldn't go up, you should just find a better job/spouse/whatever.

Sovereign citizens / secret social security bank with unlimited money - meaning get a job and make as much as you can, ha!

Leave water fountains off or limit them- then say there's no threat of dehydration and everybody can "afford" to be without it or buy water.

Companies that say the employee comes first and they are the most important asset to the company, wrong.
The wealth of the company is the most important asset, and the employee is what generates the wealth, so they come second if you ask me.

Everyone has an equal opportunity - not true.

So on….

People who are "listening" or "reading" but refuse to acknowledge or comply and do fucked up shit anyway.