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Anonymous1997ES

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Condescending = I'm told everything is fine when I ask if things are wrong, or people tell me they'll try to change (and sometimes they do, for a couple of days/weeks), but then things go back to they were before. Or I'm mostly kept at arms bay, being spoken to when they need help or when they have no other choice (classmates or acquaintances), being given empty words or pity kindness and so on.

Distant = (Some exceptions are people whom I know they're very busy, but when we talk to it's like not a single day has passed since the last time). People drift away no matter what I do, the most I can keep a new friendship is two/three months at minimum, or up to a year at maximum, before either full ghosting begins, or a more gradual distancing instead (they still reply for a while, but take a lot of weeks or months in between, until it stops).

Abusive = Sometimes it begins with meaner pranks or taunts, to eventually end either with emotional abuse (gaslightning, manipulation, insults, yelling and treats, or full blown bullying), even in cases where I didn't hurt the other person at all (though I have to admit, in other situations I made mistakes and deserved that as punishment). In very rare situations it ended in physical abuse though (mostly in high school).

Some people in these three categories were those I helped in the past (like sharing some of my food/water, help with homework and/or assignments, sometimes even money and emotional support)... Yet, it's like after a while, I tend to cause such a lot of disgust into others, explaining why they change so much... Something I envy other people for, its their power to cut off ties with others with little to no remorse even if they end up being wrong (because I can't deny that sometimes it must be done). I know it's selfish to hope to get something after helping someone but, I think I may have the right to be selfish once in a while.

I made a list about how many people I still have in my life (without counting my family or neutral acquaintances), and the results shocked me:

Best Friends = 1-2
Close Friends = 1-4
Casual Friends = 5-8
People I don't get along with (but we're not enemies) = 20
People whom I'm truly enemies with = 29

Even if I took the highest number possible for good connections (14), against the number of bad ones (49)... I have more than three times the amount of positive ones on the negative side... If I considered the minimum the number is seven times highter... If I'm truly a being that spreads hope and light like I've been told all my life then, why do I have so much people whom end up hating me or disliking me? I mean, I think a normal/average person might have far, far less enemies than I have... I admit that I have the genuine fault and blame in some of those situations, but in others I just had half of it, or sometimes I didn't do anything wrong... And I didn't even count failed friendships, oh boy, I'm a goddamn failure...

What makes a person being called a bringer or hope and light, but being treated as the opposite? Note: I only believe this from my friends/family, but not from acquaintances or people I don't trust as much.
 
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People is disgusting, the best thing you can do is to cut ties with these supposed enemies, from that list maybe there are 1-2 that you can count on to go out or do things.
 
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Condescending = I'm told everything is fine when I ask if things are wrong, or people tell me they'll try to change (and sometimes they do, for a couple of days/weeks), but then things go back to they were before. Or I'm mostly kept at arms bay, being spoken to when they need help or when they have no other choice (classmates or acquaintances), being given empty words or pity kindness and so on.
They're human they have their own struggles and tribulations.

Distant = (Some exceptions are people whom I know they're very busy, but when we talk to it's like not a single day has passed since the last time). People drift away no matter what I do, the most I can keep a new friendship is two/three months at minimum, or up to a year at maximum, before either full ghosting begins, or a more gradual distancing instead (they still reply for a while, but take a lot of weeks or months in between, until it stops).
They have their own path troubles and tribulations.

Abusive = Sometimes it begins with meaner pranks or taunts, to eventually end either with emotional abuse (gaslightning, manipulation, insults, yelling and treats, or full blown bullying), even in cases where I didn't hurt the other person at all (though I have to admit, in other situations I made mistakes and deserved that as punishment). In very rare situations it ended in physical abuse though (mostly in high school).

Always get away and stay away when this becomes apparent.
Took me a while to do so myself; my own mirror.

I mean, I think a normal/average person might have far, far less enemies than I have...
That just may surprise you. What is normal? Everyone is unique for reason, not an automaton, normal comes in different forms.
 
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People is disgusting, the best thing you can do is to cut ties with these supposed enemies, from that list maybe there are 1-2 that you can count on to go out or do things.

I haven't spoken to those forty-nine people in quite a long time (from a couple of months to years), ever since either the bond broke off or I stopped meeting with them as we didn't share a class together anymore.

They're human they have their own struggles and tribulations.


They have their own path troubles and tribulations.



Always get away and stay away when this becomes apparent.
Took me a while to do so myself; my own mirror.


That just may surprise you. What is normal? Everyone is unique for reason, not an automaton, normal comes in different forms.

It's true that everyone is human, and we all have our own tribulations and conflicts but... Why does it happen more often to certain people? I really hate knowing that I'm hated by a lot of people, and I'm afraid to make even more enemies...
 
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The fact about friendships is when your common interests are no longer mutual interests, or when one of you gets an S.O., the friendship is bound to fizzle out. Friends are not meant to be around forever. They're just there to occupy you while you get to the next stage of your life.
 
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These numbers seem normal to me. The vast majority of people out there aren't worth having relationships with. My numbers would be fairly similar I'm sure.

All the enemies are so you can find the couple true friends.
 
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I haven't spoken to those forty-nine people in quite a long time (from a couple of months to years), ever since either the bond broke off or I stopped meeting with them as we didn't share a class together anymore.



It's true that everyone is human, and we all have our own tribulations and conflicts but... Why does it happen more often to certain people? I really hate knowing that I'm hated by a lot of people, and I'm afraid to make even more enemies...

Humans are just that imperfect and unpredictable.
 
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If I'm truly a being that spreads hope and light like I've been told all my life then, why do I have so much people whom end up hating me or disliking me? I mean, I think a normal/average person might have far, far less enemies than I have... I admit that I have the genuine fault and blame in some of those situations, but in others I just had half of it, or sometimes I didn't do anything wrong... And I didn't even count failed friendships, oh boy, I'm a goddamn failure...
Your impressiveness is based on the quality of your enemies
  • Your enemies are wonderful people = uh-oh
  • Your enemies are jerks = :sunglasses:

Guess that implies: people without enemies may not be all that impressive. And support wonderful people who accumulate lots of jerk enemies
 
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Condescending = I'm told everything is fine when I ask if things are wrong, or people tell me they'll try to change (and sometimes they do, for a couple of days/weeks), but then things go back to they were before. Or I'm mostly kept at arms bay, being spoken to when they need help or when they have no other choice (classmates or acquaintances), being given empty words or pity kindness and so on.

Distant = (Some exceptions are people whom I know they're very busy, but when we talk to it's like not a single day has passed since the last time). People drift away no matter what I do, the most I can keep a new friendship is two/three months at minimum, or up to a year at maximum, before either full ghosting begins, or a more gradual distancing instead (they still reply for a while, but take a lot of weeks or months in between, until it stops).

Abusive = Sometimes it begins with meaner pranks or taunts, to eventually end either with emotional abuse (gaslightning, manipulation, insults, yelling and treats, or full blown bullying), even in cases where I didn't hurt the other person at all (though I have to admit, in other situations I made mistakes and deserved that as punishment). In very rare situations it ended in physical abuse though (mostly in high school).

Some people in these three categories were those I helped in the past (like sharing some of my food/water, help with homework and/or assignments, sometimes even money and emotional support)... Yet, it's like after a while, I tend to cause such a lot of disgust into others, explaining why they change so much... Something I envy other people for, its their power to cut off ties with others with little to no remorse even if they end up being wrong (because I can't deny that sometimes it must be done). I know it's selfish to hope to get something after helping someone but, I think I may have the right to be selfish once in a while.

I made a list about how many people I still have in my life (without counting my family or neutral acquaintances), and the results shocked me:

Best Friends = 1-2
Close Friends = 1-4
Casual Friends = 5-8
People I don't get along with (but we're not enemies) = 20
People whom I'm truly enemies with = 29

Even if I took the highest number possible for good connections (14), against the number of bad ones (49)... I have more than three times the amount of positive ones on the negative side... If I considered the minimum the number is seven times highter... If I'm truly a being that spreads hope and light like I've been told all my life then, why do I have so much people whom end up hating me or disliking me? I mean, I think a normal/average person might have far, far less enemies than I have... I admit that I have the genuine fault and blame in some of those situations, but in others I just had half of it, or sometimes I didn't do anything wrong... And I didn't even count failed friendships, oh boy, I'm a goddamn failure...

What makes a person being called a bringer or hope and light, but being treated as the opposite? Note: I only believe this from my friends/family, but not from acquaintances or people I don't trust as much.
Why do other people do that? They must have reasons. If you encounter this kind of problem repeatedly it's likely that there is a consistent reason (or perhaps a small number of reasons). If you can figure out why, you're halfway to dealing with the situation. If you can't figure it out by yourself, you could try asking some of them.
 
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dwindlingfirst

Too worthless to live, too scared to die
Apr 24, 2023
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Condescending = I'm told everything is fine when I ask if things are wrong, or people tell me they'll try to change (and sometimes they do, for a couple of days/weeks), but then things go back to they were before. Or I'm mostly kept at arms bay, being spoken to when they need help or when they have no other choice (classmates or acquaintances), being given empty words or pity kindness and so on.

Distant = (Some exceptions are people whom I know they're very busy, but when we talk to it's like not a single day has passed since the last time). People drift away no matter what I do, the most I can keep a new friendship is two/three months at minimum, or up to a year at maximum, before either full ghosting begins, or a more gradual distancing instead (they still reply for a while, but take a lot of weeks or months in between, until it stops).

Abusive = Sometimes it begins with meaner pranks or taunts, to eventually end either with emotional abuse (gaslightning, manipulation, insults, yelling and treats, or full blown bullying), even in cases where I didn't hurt the other person at all (though I have to admit, in other situations I made mistakes and deserved that as punishment). In very rare situations it ended in physical abuse though (mostly in high school).

Some people in these three categories were those I helped in the past (like sharing some of my food/water, help with homework and/or assignments, sometimes even money and emotional support)... Yet, it's like after a while, I tend to cause such a lot of disgust into others, explaining why they change so much... Something I envy other people for, its their power to cut off ties with others with little to no remorse even if they end up being wrong (because I can't deny that sometimes it must be done). I know it's selfish to hope to get something after helping someone but, I think I may have the right to be selfish once in a while.

I made a list about how many people I still have in my life (without counting my family or neutral acquaintances), and the results shocked me:

Best Friends = 1-2
Close Friends = 1-4
Casual Friends = 5-8
People I don't get along with (but we're not enemies) = 20
People whom I'm truly enemies with = 29

Even if I took the highest number possible for good connections (14), against the number of bad ones (49)... I have more than three times the amount of positive ones on the negative side... If I considered the minimum the number is seven times highter... If I'm truly a being that spreads hope and light like I've been told all my life then, why do I have so much people whom end up hating me or disliking me? I mean, I think a normal/average person might have far, far less enemies than I have... I admit that I have the genuine fault and blame in some of those situations, but in others I just had half of it, or sometimes I didn't do anything wrong... And I didn't even count failed friendships, oh boy, I'm a goddamn failure...

What makes a person being called a bringer or hope and light, but being treated as the opposite? Note: I only believe this from my friends/family, but not from acquaintances or people I don't trust as much.
Those numbers are a lot higher than mine would be
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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It's not surprising that humans act in such a way, as the reality is that humans just very often create more suffering and harm, they make existing much worse and you cannot trust and rely on them. I just think it's better to avoid other people.
 
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The fact about friendships is when your common interests are no longer mutual interests, or when one of you gets an S.O., the friendship is bound to fizzle out. Friends are not meant to be around forever. They're just there to occupy you while you get to the next stage of your life.

But how normal people can make friendships easier than most of us? That's what I don't understand...

Humans are just that imperfect and unpredictable.

Kudos, that's really true, all of us are like that in the end...

These numbers seem normal to me. The vast majority of people out there aren't worth having relationships with. My numbers would be fairly similar I'm sure.

All the enemies are so you can find the couple true friends.
Your impressiveness is based on the quality of your enemies
  • Your enemies are wonderful people = uh-oh
  • Your enemies are jerks = :sunglasses:

Guess that implies: people without enemies may not be all that impressive. And support wonderful people who accumulate lots of jerk enemies
It's not surprising that humans act in such a way, as the reality is that humans just very often create more suffering and harm, they make existing much worse and you cannot trust and rely on them. I just think it's better to avoid other people.
Those numbers are a lot higher than mine would be

Honestly, I don't really understand... Mean no disrespect but, it's hard to believe that we live in a world where most people are rotten and cruel, and only a small percentage are good and worth it... It's tiring to be hated/disliked by such amount of people, yet I've seen that most people have that affinity to make friends easily, and keep them for a very long time, while a couple of years ago, when I tried to CTB, I thought I was pretty much friendless...

Why do other people do that? They must have reasons. If you encounter this kind of problem repeatedly it's likely that there is a consistent reason (or perhaps a small number of reasons). If you can figure out why, you're halfway to dealing with the situation. If you can't figure it out by yourself, you could try asking some of them.

Like I said in the post, I acknowledge I have a huge part of the blame in some of those, in which I recognize I made mistakes (being too naive, childish, annoying, needy and co-dependant, making promises I couldn't keep, pissing people off with my way of being, despite I've tried to change and behave in a more adult like behavior), but in the some of the remaining ones I don't think I truly did anything wrong, I've asked sometimes and I'm mostly told that I'm not wrong, or everyone else is wrong and I'm right, but I'm not a saint, so that's not true at all...
 
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WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
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But how normal people can make friendships easier than most of us? That's what I don't understand...
Mutual interests, or maybe they're content with life and other people dont pick up on their negative aura. Idk. If you're extremely miserable, people can pick up on that and people usually avoid you as a result.
 
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