alcohol poisoning

[Subhuman]

My most successful suicide attempt was by alcohol poisoning, so that's what I was going to attempt this time as well. After reading the posts about it here on SS I'm a bit hesitant though. The general consensus seems to be that it's unreliable and painful.

The only reason I survived when I attempted it was because I stupidly did it in my home and a family member found me. I don't remember anything after drinking the first bottle, but I was told I threw up. In spite of that I ended up in a coma with a blood alcohol level of 5.something. Not 0.5, 5.something. So I thought this time I'd just go into the woods and drink myself to death there. A) so that no one finds me in time and B) so that no relative has to be traumatized by seeing my dead body (I honestly didn't think it would have had any impact on them when I attempted it that time)

I would love you guys' input on this. Do you think it's likely that I could puke all the alcohol out and recover completely without any medical assistance? And just wake up the next day with a migraine? I'm so disheartened because for all these years I thought of this method as a sure thing, just because it worked so well the last time.

I already have the liquor. I don't know how else to do it. I considered jumping, but there are no cliffs or structures high enough where I live, or if they exist I don't know how to find them. I considered getting drunk and slitting my wrists (I was told this was the best method by fellow patients in the psych ward), but I attempted to cut myself as a teen and just couldn't manage to go deep enough. Before anyone asks me about SN, I have no clue how to acquire either the SN or the anti emetics I'd need. I don't know, I still think alcohol poisoning is my best bet, although now I'm really scared of just waking up in the middle of nowhere with brain damage or something. Please if you have any suggestions or thoughts I'd really appreciate it!

 

[Severen]

In countries like Sweden, they actually put something in the alcohol to make people puke after getting drunk. Swedes have a drinking problem, to say the least. LOL

 

[Subhuman]

In countries like Sweden, they actually put something in the alcohol to make people puke after getting drunk. Swedes have a drinking problem, to say the least. LOL

I didn't know that :o Any idea how I could check if my country does it too? Do you know what that substance is called?

 

[Severen]

I didn't know that :o Any idea how I could check if my country does it too? Do you know what that substance is called?

I have no idea. In Sweden, all the alcohol is sold by the government and they probably, don't reveal any info about this.

 

[Mircea]

I don't think alcohol overdose will kill most people on its own. Usually that causes you to be knocked out cold and wake up late the next day. It's why my suicide plan involves alcohol, but I'm going to do it in water so that I'll drown instead.

 

[Theon]

@Mircea drowning is an option for me but I just read about how awful a death it is.

 

[Subhuman]

I do live by the sea, although there are always people around... especially now that it's summer. Since the only reason I failed last time was because I was found and treated, I want to avoid this at all costs.

drowning is an option for me but I just read about how awful a death it is.

I think the idea is to be so numb from the alcohol that you don't feel much while you're drowning. Personally I wouldn't know how much is needed to get to that point because I don't drink alcohol, so I don't know what effect it has on me.

 

[Subhuman]

Sorry for the double post, I just don't think a new thread is needed because this is related to my OP.

How far should I be from roads, trails or houses when I decide to end my life this way? I'm looking at the woods outside of my town with google earth. The wooded areas that aren't national parks still have the occasional road or trail running through them at certain points. I can also see clusters of houses here and there. What do you guys think would be a safe distance? (Once I pinpoint a suitable place I will check it out in person.)

What I'm worried about is not just that someone might hear me throwing up. Last time what attracted my family's attention was the ruckus I made when I collapsed in the hallway after losing consciousness. So even though I was fully determined to stay in my room I got out for some reason. I don't remember any of that, so I might have needed to pee after all the liquor I drank? But what if I just started walking around due to some illogical reason just because I was so intoxicated and didn't know what I was doing? I need to be far enough from populated areas that even if I decide to start moving I can't reach anyone. Any ideas as to what a safe distance might be for this purpose?

 

[jake3d]

It is actually really hard to kill yourself with ethanol. There's a story round here about someone who got so drunk that everyone thought he was dead and he woke up in the morgue just as the coroner was preparing to cut him open for autopsy. Close call.

If you are determined to do it this way, you should look into the option of an enema. It's terribly undignified and will burn like hell but it has a larger chance to actually kill you since there will be nothing to puke up. I've read about someone dying like that not too long ago.

 

[Subhuman]

Well that's terrifying. I'll definitely keep it in mind and think about it some more. As for the enema... there wouldn't be anything to throw up, but wouldn't all the liquor just squirt out?

 

[jake3d]

I don't know. I can just point you to the news article. https://anonym.to/?https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wife-charged-in-booze-enema-death/

 

[Subhuman]

Ok, thank you for that. I'm trying to imagine how one could retain that much alcohol for long enough to die from it... and I just can't envision it. I don't think I can do it that way.

 

[jake3d]

Then you should look for another poisoning method, with lots of booze you'll just give yourself a bad time. Source: being drunk more times than I care to admit.

 

[Subhuman]

Then you should look for another poisoning method, with lots of booze you'll just give yourself a bad time. Source: being drunk more times than I care to admit.

To be perfectly honest, I've been thinking about it and actively searching for the most suitable method for years. Almost 2 decades actually. It's how I found out about alcohol poisoning. In one of my searches I stumbled upon an article about a Russian man who miraculously survived a night out with his buddies during which he had drunk 2 liters of vodka. According to the experts cited in the article, that was a lethal dose for humans. It seemed to work well for me when I tried it, the doctors told me I was lucky to wake up. I'm not dead set on it though, and if I learned of a better method I'd reconsider in a heartbeat. But like I said in my first post I just don't know what else to do.

 

[Subhuman]

Thank you. I read the suicide wiki. It has a source where you can acquire SN for every region of the world except the EU. I don't know how to get it, nor the anti-emetics that have to be taken with it. I've never heard of those other two substances, I'll have a look now. I really appreciate your help.

Edit: Those are controlled substances in my country, I can't acquire them.

 

[jake3d]

PM me for a verified seller on ebay. They're from Poland, sell only chemicals and have very good ratings.

For the anti-emetics, you're gonna have to search yourself, they're hard to get on the internet in this part of the world, but you may be able to get them easily prescribed by your doctor or they might even be OTC at your local pharmacy. It's worth asking around.

 

[Subhuman]

I will, thanks so much! But if they're chemicals don't they burn your esophagus? I don't mean if they cause a burning sensation, I mean are they corrosive?

 

[jake3d]

I think someone on here did report some bad burning of their esophagus with GBL.

From our current understanding SN doesn't burn, there have been accidental deaths where it has been mistaken for regular table salt. I have it and it is indeed deceptively similar.

BDO and 2M2B are very similar to hard alcohol, if you can swallow vodka you can take those no problem.

 

[not_a_robot]

It is actually really hard to kill yourself with ethanol. There's a story round here about someone who got so drunk that everyone thought he was dead and he woke up in the morgue just as the coroner was preparing to cut him open for autopsy. Close call.

If you are determined to do it this way, you should look into the option of an enema. It's terribly undignified and will burn like hell but it has a larger chance to actually kill you since there will be nothing to puke up. I've read about someone dying like that not too long ago.

Alcohol enema - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[not_a_robot]

lol "alcohol enema" was top result, but my search term was "butt chugging"

 

[Subhuman]

Today I'm going to check out some spots I looked up that seem secluded enough. I'm not sure of the method I'll use yet, but finding a location would be a big step in the right direction. I have a chronic illness that causes weakness, so I'm worried I might not have the energy to get where I want to and back, but I have to try and it has to be now because lately I seem to be declining instead of having ups and downs. Wish me luck lol

 

[BeenDoneForSoLong]

Hey. Would super strongly persuade against this. I tried (ended upon hospital). The pain was SO SO SO SO fucking bad. Like it sounds cliche, but I can't describe the pain. I can't remember anything else (cause I was so fucking wasted) but I DO remember the pain even now. And it lasts for so long as well, your whole body just twists around and shit like you're trying to vomit up everything you've got but you've allready started just spitting up acid at that point. Would NOT recommend at ALL.

 

[Subhuman]

Hey. Would super strongly persuade against this. I tried (ended upon hospital). The pain was SO SO SO SO fucking bad. Like it sounds cliche, but I can't describe the pain. I can't remember anything else (cause I was so fucking wasted) but I DO remember the pain even now. And it lasts for so long as well, your whole body just twists around and shit like you're trying to vomit up everything you've got but you've allready started just spitting up acid at that point. Would NOT recommend at ALL.

Maybe I thought it wasn't that bad because I don't remember anything. The worst part was chugging down vodka, which I hate the taste of, as fast as I could and it was burning my throat. After the first bottle I have no recollection of anything until I started coming to in the ICU. Maybe I was naive in thinking it wasn't painful just because the few memories I do have aren't that bad.

Thank you for sharing your experience and I'm sorry that happened to you. I definitely am reconsidering.

 

[Qbert]

Did I read BAC of 5.x? Is that possible?

 

[jake3d]

Did I read BAC of 5.x? Is that possible?

I think they were measuring in ppm and it would be 5ppm or 0.5%. Highest ever concentration of someone who lived was 1.6%. And they were DRIVING! https://anonym.to/?https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2010-12-24-drunkest-driver-in-sa-arrested/

 

[Qbert]

And 15 sheep in a Mercedes!

 

[Subhuman]

Did I read BAC of 5.x? Is that possible?

That's what the doctor told me. He said that at 1.0 you lose consciousness, at 4.0 it's fatal, and mine was above 5.

 

[jake3d]

Yeah, he was talking parts per mille, which is common measurement in Europe. I think the US uses %.

He's wrong about losing conciousness at a BAC of 1ppm or 0.1%. Blackouts CAN occur at that level only if you're an inexperienced drinker. But above 4ppm or 0.4% for you guys in the US, yes, you are at risk of alcoholic coma.

 

[purplemoon]

My most successful suicide attempt was by alcohol poisoning, so that's what I was going to attempt this time as well. After reading the posts about it here on SS I'm a bit hesitant though. The general consensus seems to be that it's unreliable and painful.

The only reason I survived when I attempted it was because I stupidly did it in my home and a family member found me. I don't remember anything after drinking the first bottle, but I was told I threw up. In spite of that I ended up in a coma with a blood alcohol level of 5.something. Not 0.5, 5.something. So I thought this time I'd just go into the woods and drink myself to death there. A) so that no one finds me in time and B) so that no relative has to be traumatized by seeing my dead body (I honestly didn't think it would have had any impact on them when I attempted it that time)

I would love you guys' input on this. Do you think it's likely that I could puke all the alcohol out and recover completely without any medical assistance? And just wake up the next day with a migraine? I'm so disheartened because for all these years I thought of this method as a sure thing, just because it worked so well the last time.

I already have the liquor. I don't know how else to do it. I considered jumping, but there are no cliffs or structures high enough where I live, or if they exist I don't know how to find them. I considered getting drunk and slitting my wrists (I was told this was the best method by fellow patients in the psych ward), but I attempted to cut myself as a teen and just couldn't manage to go deep enough. Before anyone asks me about SN, I have no clue how to acquire either the SN or the anti emetics I'd need. I don't know, I still think alcohol poisoning is my best bet, although now I'm really scared of just waking up in the middle of nowhere with brain damage or something. Please if you have any suggestions or thoughts I'd really appreciate it!

I can only tell you that i researched jumping years ago (Please DON'T jump or fall anywhere... i read it break bones, paralyzes people, only works about 1/4 of the time to actually kill oneself, is terrifying according to survivors, and typically ruins their lives permanently)...
I've considered the alcohol method myself... i just know that i shouldn't eat 24 hours before partly so i don't have poop along with puke everywhere... Gross AND your idea of the forest is actually smart but for me... I'd be freaked out by millions of bugs, mountain lions, etc especially with no tent. Personally for me, i would still prefer a private bathtub by candlelight on the counters in safe glass jars playing ABBA in the background. Maybe that's too eccentric.
But whatever a person might do theoretically, please NEVER jump, never, never, never.

Today I'm going to check out some spots I looked up that seem secluded enough. I'm not sure of the method I'll use yet, but finding a location would be a big step in the right direction. I have a chronic illness that causes weakness, so I'm worried I might not have the energy to get where I want to and back, but I have to try and it has to be now because lately I seem to be declining instead of having ups and downs. Wish me luck lol

I'm just so sad that you're suffering physically with a chronic illness like that, please be careful not to crash, that would just make everything worse for you. Okay maybe i'm paranoid but i know i have my moments where it actually helps for people to remind me 'now remember not to .... x,y,z" etc. The forest has wild animals that could interrupt you? At least take pepper spray to fight off a mountain lion please? Then again ctb by mountain lion might be a way for some, although experiencing my limbs being ripped off while i'm still alive is still technically worse than my current reality, what about you?
Idk

Hey. Would super strongly persuade against this. I tried (ended upon hospital). The pain was SO SO SO SO fucking bad. Like it sounds cliche, but I can't describe the pain. I can't remember anything else (cause I was so fucking wasted) but I DO remember the pain even now. And it lasts for so long as well, your whole body just twists around and shit like you're trying to vomit up everything you've got but you've allready started just spitting up acid at that point. Would NOT recommend at ALL.

May i please ask what exactly did you drink? I'm wondering if part of it was your kidneys/liver reaction? Or why do you think it was so painful for you?
Sorry you went through that...

My limited experiences OD'ing with alcohol were with Everclear and Vodka... everclear was actually more pleasant for me as far as hangover... it felt like i had the flu but vodka made me feel like i got hit by a train... and no, a train didn't work either as someone showed up saying "God sent him" (eyes rolling) that sabotaged my ctb attempt (again).

 

[Mircea]

I'd suggest reading my thread about my first (and maybe last) suicide attempt. It involved drowning using medicine and alcohol.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-story-of-my-failed-drowning-attempt.21991

Alcohol alone likely isn't going to do much, or at least for me it didn't. When I got out of the water I was barely able to walk, yet was perfectly self aware and had no issues perceiving what was happening around me: Were I to have succeeded and drowned it would have likely been scary and painful.

Increasing the dose could theoretically work around that. But if you do that you're likely going to vomit. I only drank 250ml of 40% Vodka mixed with some orange juice: I didn't throw up on the spot but did once I got back home. More would have caused it to happen sooner and likely negated the effect.