Alcohol + Ketamine?

[Alzag]

Has anyone ever considered this as a CTB method? I've heard of a lot of accidental overdoses with this combo at raves and what not, wondering if any of you knew if any combined dosage of Scotch + K would be a reliable method.

 

[seenthelight]

I took 2g and drunk 2x1L bottles of scotch and I am still here

 

[Throwmyselfaway]

I think but don't quote me it would need to be a lot of K to do it. I've thought about it myself.

 

[Defenestrator]

Yeah, you need quite a lot of ketamine - have you ever looked at the site Erowid? It's pretty good for working out dosages on this sort of thing.

 

[Sensei]

What's the cause of death? Dehydration?

 

[Defenestrator]

What Will Happen if You Take Too Much Ketamine?

Ketamine is a prescription medication, mostly used in veterinary medicine, but diverted and other illicit forms of the drug are often abused recreationally.

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It's difficult to OD on it it seems - but like most depressents it can affect your heart and breathing.

 

[seenthelight]

What's the cause of death? Dehydration?

You go through something called the K-Hole, when you find out that that the whole universe is an illusion in your mind, so you might as well go.
However, your body has another system beyond your consciousness that keeps you alive.
I know someone who injected themselves in the bath and died by drowning

like most depressents it can affect your heart and breathing

No, Ketamine is considered a safe amnestic as it does not affect your heart rate and breathing.
Alcohol +K is considered a dangerous combination, one enhances the effect of the other and you will be exposed to other dangers life falls and drowning, etc.
But again, you will need a lot of each to have effects. As I said 2g+2L have no effect other than bruises in my body for whatever, as I can not remember what happened

 

[Defenestrator]

You go through something called the K-Hole, when you find out that that the whole universe is an illusion in your mind, so you might as well go.
However, your body has another system beyond your consciousness that keeps you alive.
I know someone who injected themselves in the bath and died by drowning

No, Ketamine is considered a safe amnestic as it does not affect your heart rate and breathing

That's interesting. It does seem that taking it with other depressents can be pretty dangerous though. So maybe taking a load with alcohol will work.

 

[LonelyCat]

That's interesting . Can you describe more of what happens in the K-Hole . how much to take?
i don't want any mind altering experiences but Ketamine does seem interesting as an anesthetic.How much to take as an anesthetic so that i can drown in the ocean and not feel the pain of drowning but still have my mind working good? Would that work?

You are basically "stuck" physically but not mentally. You may hallucinate, out of body experience. It's hard to explain bc everyone has a slightly different experience. I knew a lot of people who avoided them at all costs bc they would have bad experiences. But I loved k-holes. It's been over 10 years since I've done it, so cant remember how much you'd need to do. I feel like it was just a fat line or something.

 

[seenthelight]

I am going to be reported to the staff for being pro-lie and playing "guilt-trip" for reminding others about the pain your decision will cause others.
I am pro-choice. I am in a building consumed by fire. I have the decision of dying on my own terms or let the fire burn me. I personally will not jump, because I have the project of joining the biggest queue in heaven - the "WTF you put me there and kept me alive" queue, so I would try to breathe as much smoke as possible not to feel the pain of burning. If you decide differently I respect your choice.
I don't know, I never been in a a burning build with this choice, so I might choose differently on the real life. I am just putting my position.

Can you describe more of what happens in the K-Hole

Like any trip, it is a personal experience.

how much to take?

If you have the good stuff on the first time a couple of like C-lines should do it, maybe go for 4. Your nose will get block and there is something called psychological tolerance. Your body/mind you learn it and avoid it in future trips. So enjoy the first one future ones may not be the same. You will lose the coordination for a good 12h, so better not be alone.
The big Pharm knows about the trip abuse and changes the isomers not to make you trip, so the illegal shards might be your best bet. Leave here and go through the rugs forum for more information
I am only replying to this thread because K is being researched as a cure for depression, so I hope you young people find a way to help yourselves and deal with the pain without suffering.
I am in the team trying to help young people to overcome the decision and let them find a way to help themselves. The pain you leave behind is unbearable and if you grow out of it you might help others.
Go on reported as 'pro-life guilt-trip' poster.
I am beyond caring

 

[Defenestrator]

Not young, I'm in my 30s. I know what you mean though, there are some very young people on here.

 

[seenthelight]

Not young, I'm in my 30s. I know what you mean though, there are some very young people on here.

Young and old are relative terms. I know a doctor who says old people are 10 years beyond your age, so I think you are considering someone in their 60 as old or like you posted you fell old yourself.
CTB is the number one cause of death or under 45. You are free to join the statistic or maybe help me to find another way

 

[Alzag]

Thanks for all of the advice.

I'm lucky enough to have a prescription for K- although not lucky enough to have it fix me- so whatever quantity is needed shouldn't be a problem. It's just a matter of getting the right dose without risk of vomiting or brain damage. That said, I see from above someone took 2g K + 2L scotch which is a lot- so is this maybe not a reliable method? I could get a little bit of Phenibut or Xanax to throw in the mix, would that seal the deal?

 

[Defenestrator]

Thanks for all of the advice.

I'm lucky enough to have a prescription for K- although not lucky enough to have it fix me- so whatever quantity is needed shouldn't be a problem. It's just a matter of getting the right dose without risk of vomiting or brain damage. That said, I see from above someone took 2g K + 2L scotch which is a lot- so is this maybe not a reliable method? I could get a little bit of Phenibut or Xanax to throw in the mix, would that seal the deal?

It seems it would certainly make it easier to do something that could lead to your death; jumping/falling or drowing.

 

[Girobatol]

I sniffed K while drunk and I passed out. I don´t think is a reliable method.

 

[seenthelight]

It seems it would certainly make it easier to do something that could lead to your death; jumping/falling or drowning.

That was not my intention, as I said K is being researched as a cure to depression. The OP, put a question and I said "very hard"
If you work in A&E you will know how life is a fragile thing, If you work in the conception clinic you will learn how life is a miracle.
There thousand of unwanted pregnancies and many attempts here to show otherwise. That is how life is

 

[Alzag]

seenthelight: SInce you use it for research, you probably know it is already FDA-approved for depression and can be prescribed. It works for momentary alleviation of pain, but when you overall circumstances for living are so terrible, that's beyond the help of any chemical. If you have any advice on dosing, that would be much appreciated.

 

[Quarky00]

K has a very safe profile , can't OD , move on .

As anesthetic I doubt it'd be helpful before or for doing something . Lower dosage mild relaxant euphoric , medium reduce pain and dissociative , high sleep -- these can be pleasant or beneficial or make ctb very peaceful but probably not ' make one more determined '.

 

[Defenestrator]

K has a very safe profile , can't OD , move on .

As anesthetic I doubt it'd be helpful before or for doing something . Lower dosage mild relaxant euphoric , medium reduce pain and dissociative , high sleep -- these can be pleasant or beneficial or make ctb very peaceful but probably not ' make one more determined '.

I was more referring to the disassociative effect it can have. That can definitely make it easier to do dangerous things.

 

[Quarky00]

I've heard of a lot of accidental overdoses

Never "hear" . Do research .

I was more referring to the disassociative effect it can have. That can definitely make it easier to do dangerous things.

Probably not .

You're not having an adventure or going to a rave -- you're killing a person (yourself) .

Again may ease but not make one 'more determined' . Phrasing was specific . It won't give a 'push' , or 'fight SI' , just make an already decided ctb peaceful , calmer .