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is anyone else here in an age gap relationship? im tired of people percieving it as 'wrong' when we are both very much consenting adults. i just wanna know if im the only one. the judgement hurts and my family are going to abuse me when i finally tell them.
 
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I think it does depend on the ratio ie. Is it a 62yr old and a 45 yr old or is it a 29 yr old with an 18 yr old
 
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If they're both adults I don't see the big deal. Some people are into having younger or older partners and if they're both okay with that and it's all good.
 
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I think it does depend on the ratio ie. Is it a 62yr old and a 45 yr old or is it a 29 yr old with an 18 yr old

18 and 45
if you fall in love with someone more than youve even been in love, and they do the same back, and the situation is safe and consensual, i dont see why i would have to break my own heart and his by denying us our happiness together just because im a younger adult than him. we're adults still and importantly he treats me like one too
 
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A big age gap can be problematic in some ways , and your family will probably advise you of that (with the best of intentions) , but if your both adults of legal age consent and neither of you is hurting or taking advantage of the other then no, in that case it isn't wrong .
Its hard to find happiness and if you have found some together good luck to you.
 
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A big age gap can be problematic in some ways , and your family will probably advise you of that (with the best of intentions) , but if your both adults of legal age consent and neither of you is hurting or taking advantage of the other then no, in that case it isn't wrong .
Its hard to find happiness and if you have found some together good luck to you.

my parents are extremely unstable i have no doubts they would severely hurt me and him or even try to kill him. this is based on past experiences with them finding out i was friends with him. im still traumatised by it.
 
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18 and 45
if you fall in love with someone more than youve even been in love, and they do the same back, and the situation is safe and consensual, i dont see why i would have to break my own heart and his by denying us our happiness together just because im a younger adult than him. we're adults still and importantly he treats me like one too
I think massive age gaps like that tend to work better when both are older.
I personally wouldnt feel right dating an 18 year old now and im 39.
I just think its too young.
But each case is individual so you may know better.
 
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so its petrifying but he gives my life meaning.
 
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I think massive age gaps like that tend to work better when both are older.
I personally wouldnt feel right dating an 18 year old now and im 39.
I just think its too young.
But each case is individual so you may know better.

it was kind of just something that happened, he never expected to fall in love with me and vice versa, and then it happened, and it was like the concept of our gap in age disappeared. its hard to explain, i see it as souls connecting, and you cant easily prevent that, even if you know that society will hate you
Whats petrifying your fear ofvyour parents reaction?

yeah the knowledge that they will most likely become violent
 
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my parents are extremely unstable i have no doubts they would severely hurt me and him or even try to kill him. this is based on past experiences with them finding out i was friends with him. im still traumatised by it.
I'm sorry to hear that:( that's horrible. Can't you call some kind of help center or even police about this issue? Maybe to tell them in advance that you are expecting something
 
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it was kind of just something that happened, he never expected to fall in love with me and vice versa, and then it happened, and it was like the concept of our gap in age disappeared. its hard to explain, i see it as souls connecting, and you cant easily prevent that, even if you know that society will hate you


yeah the knowledge that they will most likely become violent
Why will they become viiolent because of the age gap only?
 
paroxyical

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being with him itself isnt scary at all. its the most natural thing ive ever done and the only reason i bother staying alive most days
I'm sorry to hear that:( that's horrible. Can't you call some kind of help center or even police about this issue? Maybe to tell them in advance that you are expecting something

that's not a bad idea, i hadn't thought about it. it's definitely a shout
Why will they become viiolent vecause of the age gap only?

yeah literally just because he is older. they assume that he must be a pedophile or a groomer, despite me being an adult and being friends with him (and then dating but they don't know about it) completely with consent and because i really wanted to. and obviously everyone is like "well if you're being groomed you won't know!!" but I've been groomed like 4 times as a kid, trust me i know what to look out for now. and we have been together about 1 and a half years and he's only ever given me unconditional love and support.
im not the kind of person youd wanna be with just for sex either, and im 100% sure he isn't like i just know, but even if i had a slight doubt, there is no way he would still be with me after everything ive put him through unless he genuinely loved me. ive put him through hell, only love can see you through times like that
 
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Were you friends with him before you turned 18?
 
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i think he is an idiot for staying with me, but that's love for you right.
 
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If you two are in love and your family is abusive would living with him be an option?
 
paroxyical

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Were you friends with him before you turned 18?

yeah so i kind of get why they think it but there is no excuse to be violent. at the time we were just friends, my parents reported him to social services and the police, both of them were like "....... he's not doing anything wrong" after looking at our text messages, but they still didn't accept that he wasn't
If you two are in love and your family is abusive would living with him be an option?

oh i absolutely will, im away from home rn, its more just that im at uni so i live near uni, and my parents know where that is, and even if i didn't tell them an exact address when we get a place together, my parents would find out. they are really good stalkers. which is why i think alerting the police or someone might be a good idea
 
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oh i absolutely will, im away from home rn, its more just that im at uni so i live near uni, and my parents know where that is, and even if i didn't tell them an exact address when we get a place together, my parents would find out. they are really good stalkers. which is why i think alerting the police or someone might be a good idea
Contacting the police sounds like a wise choice.
 
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and we have been together about 1 and a half years and he's only ever given me unconditional love and support.
Is this same guy you wrote about in a previous thread? You said you've been together with him for 1 and a half years, so you were with him while you were 16/17?
 
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I dunno my dude, seems a bit groomy.
 
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Ehhhhh personally I live by the rule that the minimum acceptable age is calculated by taking the age of the older partner, dividing by 2, and adding 7 to that. In this case, (49/2)+7= 31.5

That said, if he really makes you that happy then great! I'd recommend still being a bit cautious though even if that age gap was only by about 10 years...
 
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21-55. Been there done that.

Edit. Sorry that probably didn't come off right. Not you I'm just not impressed with my relationship and can't get out of it
 
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Way too weird if you ask me. Firstly, no one should give your life meaning except for yourself (dealing with that concept now myself). Secondly being 18 really does not make you an adult. That is a child. I don't even remember being 18. I don't even remember being 22. I'm 32 now and I still don't have a clue. But 18 to 45 is huge. Growth in life happens so continuously. Personally I wouldn't consider any partner under 26 - they're just too young, life is in different areas, brain is in a different place. A 45 year old on an 18 yr old is weird as hell, I would be having a stern talk if my 45 yr old buddy was dating anyone under 30 or so. That's some unresolved daddy issue business on his part at least. IMO.
 
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If you two are in love and your family is abusive would living with him be an option?
Sorry to jump off your comment alone but any parent who would be okay with their 18 year old dating a 45 year old would have to be off their rocker, I don't see how parents being horrified by that are considered abusive. And so far the only thing they've been accused of is a potential thought crime of wanting to attack the man for taking advantage of their kid. I doubt what the OP says regarding them coming after the OP themselves with violence. Toward the guy? More likely, also more understandable. But toward OP? I doubt it. They would probably just be bewildered and frustrated beyond belief. There is no stopping being young and dumb, and this 45 year old man knows this.

I know people are trying to be supportive here but Jesus Christ, sometimes people support the worst decisions and viewpoints on here just for the sake of support and surprisingly scoff at other viewpoints that are much more worthy of said support. It's very bizarre.

Lawful consent often means nothing in the grand scheme of things, so although OP may consider themselves an adult, to me they are still a child, and I am sure that is even more the case for their parents. Most, if not all, relationships are based on some unsavory things like superficiality. But age gaps like this take it to another level. "Love" has nothing to do with it, it's a flimsy farce to justify things that just should not sit well. Men (or women) who go after people who are so much younger are chasing youth and naïveté to the extreme, the power imbalance, the experience and knowledge imbalance which should not be combined with a sexual/romantic relationship. The fact that their very life expectancies are over a quarter of a century away from one another..
Not to mention OP was friends with him before they turned 18...come on OP, he was waiting for you to turn the legal age, he was never your friend, only someone preying on you and waiting when the time was right. Honestly after what some other comments have pointed out (you've been with him for 1.5 years?), I doubt he even waited until 18. Be honest with yourself. Even if he was just suddenly struck with Cupid's arrow, something has to be seriously out of whack with someone his age to engage you and enter a relationship like this. Even people who want to test the waters would at least have enough sense not to, if even for the simple reason that yes..it is highly frowned upon.
What is his occupation? How did you meet him? At what age? Where are his own friends and family in all of this?

OP you say you've been groomed 4 times so you would know...well why didn't you know after the first time? Obviously it was not your fault but the question still stands. Why is the 4th time the charm? Because you are older? Well you're still very young! It it known that many groomers almost sense those who have been previously groomed, they don't avoid them for fear that they know the techniques, they seek them out as easy pickings!! And this fact causes the victims a lot of grief because they wonder "why them" and "what did they see in me that was vulnerable"..it is all very unpleasant but it happens that way all too often.
People also don't all groom in the same way. You say only love could be his reasoning for staying with you after all you "put him through" but I think you underestimate the power of Lust and even love itself by many definitions, can be extremely problematic. It's not a good excuse to be in an age gap relationship, especially of this magnitude, with you barely encroaching upon young adulthood. You think he is an idiot for staying with you, you're right! He is! Why do you want to be with an idiot?! I guess it's better to be an idiot than a pedophile, but my god I think we may be dealing with both here. You say you're not the type of person someone would be with just for the sex? Okay what type of person would that be exactly? Why are you special? You think his love is unconditional, but you don't realize that one of the conditions may be the age gap itself. He wants it.
At this stage, you can and will do what you want no matter what anyone says but I think there is also a lot of information still missing from this story. As far as the suggestions to call the police? After what I've read on this thread, I am pretty sure that would only get you and your 45 year old bf into hot water, not your parents. Unless you outright lied to them or this man you are with has connections.
Sorry to be blunt but this whole thing is just a big giant Yikes from me.
 
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Biggest age gap between me and a partne was 12 years. That wasn't a hit record...
But one of my friends has gotten married last year to her long time partner, who she's been with for 15+ years. She's 44 now, he's 73. Nobody took their relationship seriously, but they showed every one it can be done.
 
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Older relationship gaps are more or less fine after an adult has gone through the stages of growth; growing up, 20s, deciding about children, learning careers, understanding the world and your place in it, trauma habits, overcoming difficulty, psychology, etc. But no adult should be romantically dating a teenager. That is f*d up and inappropriate.
 
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Sorry to jump off your comment alone but any parent who would be okay with their 18 year old dating a 45 year old would have to be off their rocker, I don't see how parents being horrified by that are considered abusive. And so far the only thing they've been accused of is a potential thought crime of wanting to attack the man for taking advantage of their kid. I doubt what the OP says regarding them coming after the OP themselves with violence. Toward the guy? More likely, also more understandable. But toward OP? I doubt it. They would probably just be bewildered and frustrated beyond belief. There is no stopping being young and dumb, and this 45 year old man knows this.

I know people are trying to be supportive here but Jesus Christ, sometimes people support the worst decisions and viewpoints on here just for the sake of support and surprisingly scoff at other viewpoints that are much more worthy of said support. It's very bizarre.

Lawful consent often means nothing in the grand scheme of things, so although OP may consider themselves an adult, to me they are still a child, and I am sure that is even more the case for their parents. Most, if not all, relationships are based on some unsavory things like superficiality. But age gaps like this take it to another level. "Love" has nothing to do with it, it's a flimsy farce to justify things that just should not sit well. Men (or women) who go after people who are so much younger are chasing youth and naïveté to the extreme, the power imbalance, the experience and knowledge imbalance which should not be combined with a sexual/romantic relationship. The fact that their very life expectancies are over a quarter of a century away from one another..
Not to mention OP was friends with him before they turned 18...come on OP, he was waiting for you to turn the legal age, he was never your friend, only someone preying on you and waiting when the time was right. Honestly after what some other comments have pointed out (you've been with him for 1.5 years?), I doubt he even waited until 18. Be honest with yourself. Even if he was just suddenly struck with Cupid's arrow, something has to be seriously out of whack with someone his age to engage you and enter a relationship like this. Even people who want to test the waters would at least have enough sense not to, if even for the simple reason that yes..it is highly frowned upon.
What is his occupation? How did you meet him? At what age? Where are his own friends and family in all of this?

OP you say you've been groomed 4 times so you would know...well why didn't you know after the first time? Obviously it was not your fault but the question still stands. Why is the 4th time the charm? Because you are older? Well you're still very young! It it known that many groomers almost sense those who have been previously groomed, they don't avoid them for fear that they know the techniques, they seek them out as easy pickings!! And this fact causes the victims a lot of grief because they wonder "why them" and "what did they see in me that was vulnerable"..it is all very unpleasant but it happens that way all too often.
People also don't all groom in the same way. You say only love could be his reasoning for staying with you after all you "put him through" but I think you underestimate the power of Lust and even love itself by many definitions, can be extremely problematic. It's not a good excuse to be in an age gap relationship, especially of this magnitude, with you barely encroaching upon young adulthood. You think he is an idiot for staying with you, you're right! He is! Why do you want to be with an idiot?! I guess it's better to be an idiot than a pedophile, but my god I think we may be dealing with both here. You say you're not the type of person someone would be with just for the sex? Okay what type of person would that be exactly? Why are you special? You think his love is unconditional, but you don't realize that one of the conditions may be the age gap itself. He wants it.
At this stage, you can and will do what you want no matter what anyone says but I think there is also a lot of information still missing from this story. As far as the suggestions to call the police? After what I've read on this thread, I am pretty sure that would only get you and your 45 year old bf into hot water, not your parents. Unless you outright lied to them or this man you are with has connections.
Sorry to be blunt but this whole thing is just a big giant Yikes from me.
I defiantly share the view point that an 18 girl is in too vulnerable a position when with a 45 year old man. My thought is I can only go by what op says, and she said her parents are physically abusive. I guess I just see the old dude with the young girl as a lesser evil than an abusive household.
 
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https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-cant-cope.38970/
I'm concerned that op is talking about the same guy as the one in her previous post.
 
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I would say 10-15 years difference is ok. But more than that will show the age gap in the future. But if we both love each other go for it, as long as that person isnt under age.
 
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I met my husband when I was 24. He was 37. I've always liked older men. It's now 22 years later and we're still very much in love. The only difference now is that I have to help him with a lot. He's in a wheelchair. At least he can still take a few steps at a time. It helps a lot.
This is the one thing most people don't think about. If you do stay together, you will become his caretaker. I wouldn't want him anywhere else though. I still find myself loving him more. He's still the same sarcastic, funny, amazing man I met before. We still do everything we've always done, he just needs my help getting around.
think about the future. Are you really going to be his or her caretaker? If not, well...
 
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