Discussion Afterlife and/or God?

[Alcoholic Failure]

Do you believe in am afterlife and/or God? Am omnipotent creator? Why or why not?

 

[SpiderLink]

Do you believe in am afterlife and/or God? Am omnipotent creator? Why or why not?

Good question. I've been raised as catholic, so I feel I have to follow what I've been told. Although, I think religion is stupid (no offence to anyone tho) because it puts people in boxes. And people always pull "it says this in the Bible" and use it as a weapon, for an example, LGBTQ+ community. People don't see the bigger picture outside of their bubble and their impact they make. The world has a lot to be blamed for, and I wish I could take it all away, because it's been hurting me and Ik it has for others. I just wish things could be better for everyone, but there's nothing I can do. Anyways, I don't exactly know if there's an afterlife, I guess I'll find out eventually. But I'd rather be back into nothingness because I don't want to look down on my family and friends and see them struggle and knowing because I'm dead, I can't be there for them.

 

[blackmask]

I do. I think that death is even worse than this life. When you;re gone, being buried, the funeral. If you killed yourself that shit will be nothing but a punishment. And also the grave. Although I could be forgiven due to my mental illness. I essentially died the way I lived. I never finished shit and my development was abruptly stopped due to external shit. (Ive never mentally developed past being a kid due to trauma and i've developed a PD) And I'll probably be ashamed after death just like I'm ashamed now. The realization that there truly is no peace and no way to not exist is a worse realization than realizing you want to die. I'll still probably just do it anyway to get peace. Even if it's momentary.

I do. I think that death is even worse than this life. When you;re gone, being buried, the funeral. If you killed yourself that shit will be nothing but a punishment. And also the grave. Although I could be forgiven due to my mental illness. I essentially died the way I lived. I never finished shit and my development was abruptly stopped due to external shit. (Ive never mentally developed past being a kid due to trauma and i've developed a PD) And I'll probably be ashamed after death just like I'm ashamed now. The realization that there truly is no peace and no way to not exist is a worse realization than realizing you want to die. I'll still probably just do it anyway to get peace. Even if it's momentary.

So if I were to die I probably don't want to be found altogether.

 

[leavingsoon99]

Yes and no. I don't know that any human interpretation of a creator would be correct. I do believe in the possibility of an intelligent designer for this. I mean, everything in life obeys some type of law or rule that it cannot deviate from. Humans seem to have some license to diverge a little. So, I can't buy the whole nihilist narrative of "nothing matters and it's all beautiful anyway" b.s. I don't believe that there are any stipulations or penalties for our behaviors or decisions in this life. No, there's most likely not a penalty for suicide. That's made-up human nonsense. In fact, quite the opposite. As someone once said, "suicide is either the real way in or the real way out." Not pushing a ctb-campaign. However, if you think about it, going by your own hand is assuming power over yourself. I could be wrong, but there's something to the idea that if humans fear it (and judging human nature) then it can't be bad. Death, in and of itself, isn't bad. It's hardcoded into life.

But, yes and no, I do believe in the possibility of a grand designer.

 

[OnTheRoad]

No, I don't believe in gods, ghosts, devils, heaven or hell. Humans invented all these stories over the last few thousand years, but they're just that, stories.

 

[roseleaf]

I was raised Protestant, and both my parents and many other family had been a pastor. This ultimately led to both my brother and I being forced to go to every single event held by the church. Though I do believe this had disciplined me in the long run (though look at me now, unhappy and ready to leave this place), I learned that I do not believe in God (or 'the holy spirit') existing. I simply just never agreed with anything that the Bible had told me, and I certainly did not agree with the other members views of how one should live their life. I don't believe in prophets, or an afterlife. I don't believe in multiple gods existing, or that one person could possibly create this chaos we call Earth.

I don't believe most superstitions, except for karma, because it has always come back to me.

 

[Young.Werther]

I dunno, some of the stuff in the world feels almost arbitrary, so I think there is probably some creator entity (personally I kind of like the idea that the world was created by a committee -- maybe that's why it's screwed up). I mean like we have rules about how the universe works which kind of suck; things might be so much easier if we could ignore conservation of energy/mass since then we could just create energy out of nowhere (no need for fossil fuels and no climate change) and same deal with material goods (just make food from nothing and nobody goes hungry).

As to the afterlife, it's sort of fundamentally unknowable (I mean, you can make an argument around faith I guess). This is what's really scary. If I had my way, I would just not exist afterwards and that would be that, no afterlife or anything. I don't know though, and some of the possibilities are sort of terrifying. I really don't want to be reborn and have to do the whole thing over again.

 

[KarmicRain]

I grew up a Christian: went to a Christian private school and attended sunday service weekly. I believed wholeheartedly until about middle school when I gained some sense of self awareness: pretty much being able to think beyond what I was exactly told (honestly I might still be pretty naive now since doubting just takes more effort). but after thinking about it for years, all I've found is that there isn't a God. if we're supposedly "made in His image" than god would be real fucked up. but everything that really happens is usually backed up by science or eventually will be backed up by science.
I think religion has really just been 2 things: a way to control masses and a way for them to cope with what they don't understand and what they inevitably suffer through being put in this world.
if religion's the only backing for an afterlife, than I don't believe in an afterlife. not anymore anyway.

 

[FuneralCry]

I believe that an afterlife is a fictional concept, and religion is just a way to brainwash people. There is no God, I believe existence to just be an unfortunate and tragic consequence of evolution where we only exist due to the selfish choice to procreate and we are destined to cease existing and just return to the state of nothingness with everything finally forgotten about.

Life is just an meaningless cycle of endless suffering that sadly repeats, I think that concepts like religion and afterlife were invented as humans don't wish to accept the fact that life is completely purposeless and just leads to nothing. Many humans like to believe there is more to life than this, as they were cursed with the ability to be aware unlike animals who only act in order to survive.

 

[Alcoholic Failure]

Good question. I've been raised as catholic, so I feel I have to follow what I've been told. Although, I think religion is stupid (no offence to anyone tho) because it puts people in boxes. And people always pull "it says this in the Bible" and use it as a weapon, for an example, LGBTQ+ community. People don't see the bigger picture outside of their bubble and their impact they make. The world has a lot to be blamed for, and I wish I could take it all away, because it's been hurting me and Ik it has for others. I just wish things could be better for everyone, but there's nothing I can do. Anyways, I don't exactly know if there's an afterlife, I guess I'll find out eventually. But I'd rather be back into nothingness because I don't want to look down on my family and friends and see them struggle and knowing because I'm dead, I can't be there for them

I believe that an afterlife is a fictional concept, and religion is just a way to brainwash people. There is no God, I believe existence to just be an unfortunate and tragic consequence of evolution where we only exist due to the selfish choice to procreate and we are destined to cease existing and just return to the state of nothingness with everything finally forgotten about.

Life is just an meaningless cycle of endless suffering that sadly repeats, I think that concepts like religion and afterlife were invented as humans don't wish to accept the fact that life is completely purposeless and just leads to nothing. Many humans like to believe there is more to life than this, as they were cursed with the ability to be aware unlike animals who only act in order to survive.

That is similar to my view on the topic. There is a lot of money to be made in religion. It offers people a solution to the existential crisis, and makes the unknown "known". Religion fabricates a false diseases, and then sells it's followers false cures. I grew up Mormon and, looking at it now, I am amazed and disgusted that I ever believed in the first place. But that is their trick. I have a lot to say about this, but I would recommend people to watch videos on Matt Dillahunty's debates.

 

[Kerock]

Do you believe in am afterlife and/or God? Am omnipotent creator? Why or why not?

No there is no afterlife your just gonna be staring at pitch black darkness forever. Luckily any awareness of time, memories, sense of self is entirely wiped out. Hence it's really just complete and blissful ignorance of absolutely everything

 

[DazaiKinnie]

Do you believe in am afterlife and/or God? Am omnipotent creator? Why or why not?

Not really, there is a miniscule chance that an afterlife exist but that's like 0.01% chance that it will exist.
We don't know what religion is "true" it can be any of them or none of them or another long lost religion, who knows.

 

[blacksand]

Almost certainly there is nothing. It will be identical to if we had never been born at all.

 

[unnormal9]

No it is all fictional; a coping mechanism.

 

[Darkover]

there's no god nothing this shit is created by a intelligent being, i believe that being born is just down to random chance but i am not sure if its just a one time thing or more, in my eyes you should be able to doing anything you want so long as you don't cause another harm and since life is always a harm there should be no life at all, i'm searching for eternal nothingness i wouldn't want to exist again in this evil universe

 

[Das Nichts]

By christian doctrine god is not supposed to help us but we are supposed to help ourselves.
I'm fine with that as long he/she/it does not fuck me over if I decided to ctb

 

[Linda]

Do you believe in am afterlife and/or God? Am omnipotent creator? Why or why not?

No. Because there is no evidence for any of those things.

 

[charlotte_]

Honestly, I have no idea. There is a small chance that we will be created again, somewhere, after this world is finally destroyed. But for the longest time, I think we'll just all be having a dreamless sleep.

 

[nothingbutmybest]

I don't believe in an afterlife or a god but...
I'd like to hope there is an afterlife, because it'd be better that way. (Not god though, that thing didn't do jack diddly squat!!!!)

The reason why I don't believe in either is just that given what we know, the explanation for what we know doesn't really point to an afterlife or god. For me, everything is on a wrong until proven true basis and there just isn't really much evidence regarding afterlifes and god. Though of course, if god appeared in front of me or I got the chance to experience an afterlife, I'd believe in it. Science isn't the truth, it's adapted to fit the truth.

 

[CTB Fella]

Do you believe in am afterlife and/or God? Am omnipotent creator? Why or why not?

Reincarnation.

 

[miu]

i'm agnostic-atheist, so even though i don't follow any religious practices i still like the idea of there being a higher power somewhere.

as for the afterlife i'm starting to have more faith in it; i want to believe that my life truly begins after death, so it's either that or just nothing at all.

 

[Challu]

I believe in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and all of the promises/prophecies that concern His ministry. I believe that Jesus is God, specifically that He is the human representation of the love that God has for all people --being born as a human to fulfill the law of God and bring judgement upon sinners.

I think that the reality of death should bring a great anticipation to all people becaide they will finally know who God is. And no image of God they've been given on Earth, nor my own, will be accurate enough to compare to who/what/how God is.

 

[Alcoholic Failure]

Reincarnation.

I have explored that as well. I believe that the is reincarnation, or nothing at all. Reincarnation would be great.

 

[starlover]

Afterlife: Yes I do.

I like to imagine that when I die, I'll finally get to go to a place where I can thrive. A joyous place, meant for me.

I imagine it a lot. I imagine what I'd be doing there, what it will look like.

God/Gods: Yes, but it/they are not the Christian God of love. At least not as we'd understand it.

I can see the contradiction, but I accept it anyway because what else should I do.

 

[blacksand]

I just realized my perfect afterlife would be to go back to the few good times and relive them forever eventually merging into those moments for eternity. But I know with near absolute certainty it will simply be a return to nothing.

 

[Alcoholic Failure]

Afterlife: Yes I do.

I like to imagine that when I die, I'll finally get to go to a place where I can thrive. A joyous place, meant for me.

I imagine it a lot. I imagine what I'd be doing there, what it will look like.

God/Gods: Yes, but it/they are not the Christian God of love. At least not as we'd understand it.

I can see the contradiction, but I accept it anyway because what else should I do.

Thank you for that. There are many religious dogmas that do not believe in a singular god, especially the Christian one. Can you please be more specific? What is it that you believe?

 

[starlover]

Thank you for that. There are many religious dogmas that do not believe in a singular god, especially the Christian one. Can you please be more specific? What is it that you believe?

In my more optimistic moments, I imagine I'm here on a mission from God(s), and if I succeed then I can go back to "the place meant for me," the place where I can be happy. Like I'm one of those old cops or action starts that has "just one last mission" before peaceful retirement. And the suffering I am enduring now and will endure going forward is part of the mission. Action star gets beat up? Part of the mission; he'll get his rewards at the end. I feel completely alone? Part of the mission; I'll get my rewards in the end. Though I guess it depends on me "completing" that mission.

I don't think that all of the time. Just when I'm hopeful that there is actually a place for me, this life wasn't wasted, and my agony has a purpose.

In my more pessimistic moments I don't even believe that.

Just a wish I guess. Me on my knees begging for something more than this.

 

[cherrysquick]

no clue at this point, honestly... id love to believe in a higher power or some sort of afterlife, but the more i think about it the more i find it kind of impossible. i mean, we are just a complicated machine after all. i have very mixed feelings on the existence of souls and that type of stuff. i go to church as a, eh, safety net, i guess? id love to believe theres something more than this and that if there is an afterlife itll be better than whatever mess my life is, but deep down i believe its like a turn off switch. youre dead, youre gone. with all your memories and consciousness. the thought kinda keeps me up at night ngl, probably the only reason i havent cbt'ed yet

 

[jorheslen428]

I don't believe in an afterlife or a god but...
I'd like to hope there is an afterlife, because it'd be better that way. (Not god though, that thing didn't do jack diddly squat!!!!)

The reason why I don't believe in either is just that given what we know, the explanation for what we know doesn't really point to an afterlife or god. For me, everything is on a wrong until proven true basis and there just isn't really much evidence regarding afterlifes and god. Though of course, if god appeared in front of me or I got the chance to experience an afterlife, I'd believe in it. Science isn't the truth, it's adapted to fit the truth.

If god appeared in front of you and you told people you'd probably be labeled schizophrenic lol
I think it's just nothingness, something the human brain can't comprehend. Just like what it was like before you were born.

 

[kinja91]

I wonder if there is an afterlife sometimes, but if there is that means a creator must exist, which means one of these religions must be right. Most incorporate a hell like plane of existence for those who don't believe. I can't live happily focused on the creator entity. I'm too messed up from my trauma from my pd from life... so I then hope it's a return to nothingness.