After death, autopsy

[Nymph]

Hi,
if I'm successful with my plan, can there be an autopsy done on me? Is there a way I can prevent that? I don't want people to inspect my body, yeah I know I'll be gone but still.

 

[SSlostallhope]

I thought this also. If I leave a note saying what I poisoned myself with they could test my blood?

 

[Nymph]

I thought this also. If I leave a note saying what I poisoned myself with they could test my blood?

Yeah I was also thinking that. If I leave a note explaining exactly what I did, there would be no reason for an autopsy. But I'm not sure if that's how it really works.

 

[autumnal]

Yeah I was also thinking that. If I leave a note explaining exactly what I did, there would be no reason for an autopsy. But I'm not sure if that's how it really works.

That won't necessarily stop an autopsy, no. While leaving a note and/or toxicology tests may help identify the cause of death (such as a poison you list in the note and they can do a blood test for), they may still need to do a full autopsy to understand the interplay of various mechanisms in that death, such as the poison stopping your heart, the poison interacting with your particular stomach contents etc. Additionally, the relative health and condition of your organs can often only be determined via an autopsy. So a poison that stops the heart might affect someone more if they have an enlarged heart, for example, which is only detectable by autopsy. So basically it's about determining the exact effects of the cause of death on your particular body, not just what the cause was or how it would affect the typical person.

 

[xLosthopex]

No, unfortunately it's the law for an autopsy to be carried out when a death occurs under unusual circumstances, that includes suicide

 

[Deleted member 17949]

I doubt I'll need one since they'll probably be able to tell that the cause of death is my head being removed from my body, which is usually pretty fatal. I don't think much can be done to prevent it really.

 

[autumnal]

I doubt I'll need one since they'll probably be able to tell that the cause of death is my head being removed from my body, which is usually pretty fatal. I don't think much can be done to prevent it really.

Yes, but if your head were removed from your body in death, I doubt you'd consider an autopsy as somehow more undignified or invasive than that

Although incidentally, there might still be an autopsy in that instance to determine your stomach contents for drugs that may have influenced your decision to suicide, as well as time and composition of your last meal to determine your movements before death and the timing involved.

Basically an autopsy is a gathering of as much information as possible, for just in case it is needed at any stage in the future.

 

[SSlostallhope]

My friend hung himself and they still did an autopsy to find stomach contents for alcohol or drugs to see if it was misadventure.

 

[Angina]

Yes you can prevent that nasty autopsy by making sure your body is never found or if it's is annihilated during the process of suicide.

 

[Nymph]

That won't necessarily stop an autopsy, no. While leaving a note and/or toxicology tests may help identify the cause of death (such as a poison you list in the note and they can do a blood test for), they may still need to do a full autopsy to understand the interplay of various mechanisms in that death, such as the poison stopping your heart, the poison interacting with your particular stomach contents etc. Additionally, the relative health and condition of your organs can often only be determined via an autopsy. So a poison that stops the heart might affect someone more if they have an enlarged heart, for example, which is only detectable by autopsy. So basically it's about determining the exact effects of the cause of death on your particular body, not just what the cause was or how it would affect the typical person.

I see, but why is an autopsy needed anyways? Why is all the extra info necessary if I'm dead anyways? I mean I ate poison and I'm gone, why do they need to know how exactly it interacted with my body. The person who will most likely find me is my mom or maybe I'll go to a hotel or something I'm not sure. But I'm just a bit confused, is it for the parents or more for the state to know and how people commit suicide and put it on their database or whatever. I just want them to leave me alone... can this kind of stuff be written in a 'will'?

 

[Angina]

I see, but why is an autopsy needed anyways? Why is all the extra info necessary if I'm dead anyways? I mean I ate poison and I'm gone, why do they need to know how exactly it interacted with my body. The person who will most likely find me is my mom or maybe I'll go to a hotel or something I'm not sure. But I'm just a bit confused, is it for the parents or more for the state to know and how people commit suicide and put it on their database or whatever. I just want them to leave me alone... can this kind of stuff be written in a 'will'?

The law requires that. Please read some professional literature if truly interested. No "will" can change that. They want to know if, for example, it was a murder disguised as suicide. They will not leave you alone unless your body is never found. Please stop obsessing about it, you will be dead, it shouldn't matter if they cut you up afterwards or not.

 

[EGR92]

Cant wait for them to cut me up and blame the fact i smoked weed (one joint a day) on the fact i committed suicide!

 

[Life_and_Death]

Cant wait for them to cut me up and blame the fact i smoked weed (one joint a day) on the fact i committed suicide!

sometimes i think there needs to be a laughing reaction. the things some people will blame just because they dont like it is hilarious. although yeah youre probably right. i have about 3 a day and if anything it helps a little bit. well it makes one problem worse but makes the rest better lol

 

[Deleted member 14386]

I think it's mainly done to discount foul play, what if someone poisoned you and wrote the note? They can see how much is still in your system and figure out the real story. They have to be sure of what exactly happened and without you there to testify they gotta find out themselves. I'm not exactly going 'yay cut my chest up' but I get why they do it

 

[lunargreenx]

sometimes i think there needs to be a laughing reaction. the things some people will blame just because they dont like it is hilarious. although yeah youre probably right. i have about 3 a day and if anything it helps a little bit. well it makes one problem worse but makes the rest better lol

In our country weed in not allowed and it's a criminal offence. Unhappy youth mostly drinks every fucking day. For older people there is good ol' heroin that can be bought on some shady streets.

Yeah, life is pretty good.

 

[EGR92]

sometimes i think there needs to be a laughing reaction. the things some people will blame just because they dont like it is hilarious. although yeah youre probably right. i have about 3 a day and if anything it helps a little bit. well it makes one problem worse but makes the rest better lol

I know right?! i always go to react on people's posts with a laughing face! It definitely helps me. More than any anti psychotic drug has! and it sends me to sleep so i can avoid all my problems - WIN WIN!

In our country weed in not allowed and it's a criminal offence. Unhappy youth mostly drinks every fucking day. For older people there is good ol' heroin that can be bought on some shady streets.

Yeah, life is pretty good.

Its illegal here too but... fuck the police

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I see, but why is an autopsy needed anyways? Why is all the extra info necessary if I'm dead anyways? I mean I ate poison and I'm gone, why do they need to know how exactly it interacted with my body. The person who will most likely find me is my mom or maybe I'll go to a hotel or something I'm not sure. But I'm just a bit confused, is it for the parents or more for the state to know and how people commit suicide and put it on their database or whatever. I just want them to leave me alone... can this kind of stuff be written in a 'will'?

For all they know, someone made you write the note. They're going to investigate, including your body, such as signs of having been hurt by someone and fighting back, and to determine the cause of death really was SN and by your own hand. I get that you want them to leave you alone, but when someone dies unexpectedly of unnatural causes, they're likely going to dig into your personal life and your body. Secondary to that, it's forensic science and investigation -- they want to investigate how exactly you died, and that information is compiled and shared, whether it's your body or information from the scene or other parts of your life.

I'm not spouting personal opinion. My father was a homicide investigator, I grew up hearing about this stuff at the dinner table. But there are plenty of forensic television shows that go through all the steps of an investigation, and there are forensic investigation manuals available online, I recall one was shared here on the forum, I think by @HelensNepenthe if you want to search for it.

 

[mem12]

I don't like thought of autopsy too. Don't want to be cut in half.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

I think it's more like a Y shape on your chest, they stitch it back up for any funerals etc, but mainly just root around your organs lol
Look I don't like it either, but I don't like living in general so eh, I'm not too bothered if I don't know it going on

 

[Isittimetogonola]

Having just worked a suicide,we had to take this person to the morgue. Autopsies are required in unusual cases. Many times suicides have been murder and this was found on autopsy. You will be just one of the many. They leave the job of presentation to the funeral home. I will be cremated so there is no concern. Yes, they will express sadness but there are many lighthearted jokes during the process. Just like life, it is what it is. I hope they crack some really dark and twisted shit while they are performing my autopsy. That would be awesome.

 

[Nymph]

I think it's mainly done to discount foul play, what if someone poisoned you and wrote the note? They can see how much is still in your system and figure out the real story. They have to be sure of what exactly happened and without you there to testify they gotta find out themselves. I'm not exactly going 'yay cut my chest up' but I get why they do it

that's horrible, I literally have no enemies and if it happens in my home then no one else can enter, there's other ppl living here and that's all. idk if the laws are the same all over the world but this seems extreme..
it won't let me edit the post now but just to add some info, im ''obsessing'' over it because I have some personal issues around my body and its just difficult to deal with the fact that after my death im just an empty mannequin that the police can use for whatever

The law requires that. Please read some professional literature if truly interested. No "will" can change that. They want to know if, for example, it was a murder disguised as suicide. They will not leave you alone unless your body is never found. Please stop obsessing about it, you will be dead, it shouldn't matter if they cut you up afterwards or not.

im obsessing about it because I have some personal issues around my body and its hard to take in the fact that after death the police can do whatever and use my body

 

[autumnal]

I see, but why is an autopsy needed anyways? Why is all the extra info necessary if I'm dead anyways? I mean I ate poison and I'm gone, why do they need to know how exactly it interacted with my body. The person who will most likely find me is my mom or maybe I'll go to a hotel or something I'm not sure. But I'm just a bit confused, is it for the parents or more for the state to know and how people commit suicide and put it on their database or whatever. I just want them to leave me alone... can this kind of stuff be written in a 'will'?

that's horrible, I literally have no enemies and if it happens in my home then no one else can enter, there's other ppl living here and that's all. idk if the laws are the same all over the world but this seems extreme..
it won't let me edit the post now but just to add some info, im ''obsessing'' over it because I have some personal issues around my body and its just difficult to deal with the fact that after my death im just an empty mannequin that the police can use for whatever
im obsessing about it because I have some personal issues around my body and its hard to take in the fact that after death the police can do whatever and use my body

Sorry, but you are coming across as extremely naive and seemingly unwilling to accept the factual information from others as to why autopsies are both generally required and so comprehensive in their scope.

I appreciate that you have particular sensitivities around your body, but the reality is that you are going to need to conquer these if you want to pursue suicide as an option.

If it is any consolation, typically all professionals who come into contact with bodies (doctors/nurses, police, pathologists, funeral workers) normally treat bodies with due respect and dignity. I know healthcare proessionals dealing with and preparing the immediately deceased will often talk aloud to the body, explaining each of the steps they are going to take as they do them. This is to both provide respect and recognition of the body as having recently been a real person, and as an emotional coping mechanism for staff. Nothing is done to a body except what is necessary for the purposes of investigation and funeral preparation. So there is no chance that anyone will 'do whatever and use my body' or 'after my death im just an empty mannequin that the police can use for whatever'.

 

[Lorntroubles]

You have received some really good info so I won't be repeating them.

Nobody gets special treatment.

There will be an autopsy to make sure they have the exact cause of death like maybe it's organ failure before you take your last breath and to make sure it's not foul play.

If it is foul play, the autopsy will figure that out too.

Death ain't pretty. Don't get me started on what happens when your body is prepped, investigations, forensics, biotech, etc.

OP, I do agree you're coming off as naive. It's not to insult you. It's to say there's steps, methods, and things to consider when it comes to autopsy. It's not black and white and a simple "Oh, it's just suicide. Carry on."

 

[autumnal]

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Death ain't pretty. Don't get me started on what happens when your body is prepped, investigations, forensics, biotech, etc.
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Some of these activities may be visually confronting to an outsider, but I'm sure you would agree they are still conducted respectfully and always with a goal to maintain the dignity of the deceased as much as possible?

 

[Lorntroubles]

Some of these activities may be visually confronting to an outsider, but I'm sure you would agree they are still conducted respectfully and always with a goal to maintain the dignity of the deceased as much as possible?

Oh yes, definitely.

 

[Nymph]

Sorry, but you are coming across as extremely naive and seemingly unwilling to accept the factual information from others as to why autopsies are both generally required and so comprehensive in their scope.

I appreciate that you have particular sensitivities around your body, but the reality is that you are going to need to conquer these if you want to pursue suicide as an option.

If it is any consolation, typically all professionals who come into contact with bodies (doctors/nurses, police, pathologists, funeral workers) normally treat bodies with due respect and dignity. I know healthcare proessionals dealing with and preparing the immediately deceased will often talk aloud to the body, explaining each of the steps they are going to take as they do them. This is to both provide respect and recognition of the body as having recently been a real person, and as an emotional coping mechanism for staff. Nothing is done to a body except what is necessary for the purposes of investigation and funeral preparation. So there is no chance that anyone will 'do whatever and use my body' or 'after my death im just an empty mannequin that the police can use for whatever'.

Aight I understand, thanks for the insight

 

[Red]

I'm not worried about being sliced up - the main embarrassment imo is the evacuation of excretions upon your demise!
Cut my corpse up all you like, make my face say stupid stuff, hell - do spoof Joker makeup on me before the final face draft:

...Just don't find me covered in piss and shit!
Like seriously, gonna starve n flush my system for this reason only in the lead up to ctb day, if it has to arrive.
Had enough shit already

 

[Aonewayticketplease]

Unless you CTB by jumping into a volcano or something similar your body will likely be discovered and due process such as people undressing the corpse, going through pockets, wallets etc is inevitable.

Fortunately though you will be dead so won't give a fuck.

 

[thereandgone]

Couldn't post yesterday because of that technical issue. The simple truth is that medical examiners and coroners are ghouls with a legal means of indulging themselves.

 

[CiproKilledMe]

This is a huge concern of mine as well. My body has already been through HELL in life, I do not want it being fucked with and desecrated after death. I've already written a letter to whoever comes to retrieve my body telling them what I used and what to look for in the toxicology report, but if that's not enough to keep them from hacking apart my body then I was wondering: What if I recorded myself doing the act? Wouldn't that eliminate all doubt that there wasn't any foul play involved? I mean that's why they record everything when you go to Pegasos or Dignitas over in Switzerland.