Dolunay
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- Mar 16, 2021
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It would be interesting to have a thread containing all the ridiculous pieces of advice received from pro-lifers who, in their opinion, were trying to motivate us to keep on going. It'd be also great to explain in an objective manner why we find those advices utterly pathetic.
I'll start.
So... somebody who knew about my wish to ctb, once told me: "If you can't find a motivation to keep on living for yourself, then live for the others. Go outside and help people, make them feel great, and you'll see that eventually you'll feel better too".
In other words (and this is my interpretation, please feel free to correct me if you think that I misunderstood what he meant) he basically told me to turn myself into a happiness-manufacturing machine, totally disregarding myself and my wishes but instead fully devoting myself exclusively to other people's needs, who inevitably will end up seeing me as an object to be used and reused until they achieve their selfish goals, and then thrown away and spitted on because they won't need me anymore.
What do you think about it? Would you even bother listening to such advices? The reason why I find it so ridiculous is that I'm absolutely convinced that, as human beings inhabiting the damned planet Earth, it is impossible to sacrifice our entire existence just for the purpose of making other people happy, and I feel like everybody knows that. Let's not be prissy! I'm not saying that acts of kindness carried out randomly without expecting for anything in return are something unheard of, because they're against our selfish nature. Not at all! Some people really enjoy helping others, and I am (was, by now) one of them. But how could you completely devote yourself to helping others when you're empty and you can't even help yourself in the first place? How could you live having only this purpose in mind? Who would? Who could?
Why do people keep giving useless advices that nobody, not even themselves, would live by? What if I told them, for instance, "Ok, from now on you'll keep going to work and sacrifice yourself every day like you've always done, but at the end of the month you'll donate all of your hard-earned money to a charity or an NGO, because, you know... it's important to help others and someone will be happy to receive that money and use it for a noble cause"? Would anyone be willing to sacrifice for an undetermined period of time their entire life, energy and money just for the pleasure of making others feel good when they're left totally empty-handed?
Why are people hypocrite and pretend to live by the importance of helping each other when they wouldn't even lift a finger if they don't have an own personal gain (financial or non-financial)? So in the end I should assume that, from their perspective, I would be selfish if i ctb right now because instead I could've spent my entire life helping others and making them happy, but I've decided not to. What kind of sneaky manipulation tactics are these?
I'd like to hear your experiences as well! :)
I'll start.
So... somebody who knew about my wish to ctb, once told me: "If you can't find a motivation to keep on living for yourself, then live for the others. Go outside and help people, make them feel great, and you'll see that eventually you'll feel better too".
In other words (and this is my interpretation, please feel free to correct me if you think that I misunderstood what he meant) he basically told me to turn myself into a happiness-manufacturing machine, totally disregarding myself and my wishes but instead fully devoting myself exclusively to other people's needs, who inevitably will end up seeing me as an object to be used and reused until they achieve their selfish goals, and then thrown away and spitted on because they won't need me anymore.
What do you think about it? Would you even bother listening to such advices? The reason why I find it so ridiculous is that I'm absolutely convinced that, as human beings inhabiting the damned planet Earth, it is impossible to sacrifice our entire existence just for the purpose of making other people happy, and I feel like everybody knows that. Let's not be prissy! I'm not saying that acts of kindness carried out randomly without expecting for anything in return are something unheard of, because they're against our selfish nature. Not at all! Some people really enjoy helping others, and I am (was, by now) one of them. But how could you completely devote yourself to helping others when you're empty and you can't even help yourself in the first place? How could you live having only this purpose in mind? Who would? Who could?
Why do people keep giving useless advices that nobody, not even themselves, would live by? What if I told them, for instance, "Ok, from now on you'll keep going to work and sacrifice yourself every day like you've always done, but at the end of the month you'll donate all of your hard-earned money to a charity or an NGO, because, you know... it's important to help others and someone will be happy to receive that money and use it for a noble cause"? Would anyone be willing to sacrifice for an undetermined period of time their entire life, energy and money just for the pleasure of making others feel good when they're left totally empty-handed?
Why are people hypocrite and pretend to live by the importance of helping each other when they wouldn't even lift a finger if they don't have an own personal gain (financial or non-financial)? So in the end I should assume that, from their perspective, I would be selfish if i ctb right now because instead I could've spent my entire life helping others and making them happy, but I've decided not to. What kind of sneaky manipulation tactics are these?
I'd like to hear your experiences as well! :)
