TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
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In another topic I written a long time ago in regards to voluntary euthanasia, this redditor made a good post on reddit. He mentioned about how we humans are brought into this world without our consent, thus we should at least have the right and freedom of choice in deciding when, where, and how we choose to exit this world (a world that we never asked to be a part of in the first place).

Below is u/Hrkl's post:
I was brought into this existence against my knowledge and will. Into an ugly world as well — one full of so much pain and suffering and inequality and prejudice. We have the tech and money and means to provide everyone with good housing, water, food, healthcare, education and employment yet so many of us are struggling like fucking crazy just trying to obtain the bare minimum to survive. I'm poor and mentally ill and the VERY LEAST THIS CURSED SOCIETY OWES ME IS THE MEANS TO LEAVE PEACEFULLY AND PAINLESSLY. How dare you try and trap me here? We deserve services that can offer people painless peaceful euthanasia shots. Throwing yourself off a building or blowing off your head sounds horrible. I'm so fucking sick of this world. We all deserve so much better just by existing, I believe that. Yet we all fester in a shithole. Well then at least let me get the fuck out peacefully

Of course, there are some pro-lifers and dissenters in the comments as usual. One such comment shows even with that subreddit there are even divisive points on the nuances of assisted suicide (some people who are grey on the issue but still troubled about having medical professionals assist those who are suffering tremendously to exit peacefully). Imho, assisted suicide should be available to all those who wish to leave this shitty world (have measures and screenings in place to prevent abuse and make sure that people who are choosing it is 100% sure that he/she wants to CTB), especially those who are suffering immensely and lack the (physical) capacity to do so (e.g. paralyzed, no limbs, etc.).
 
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Marktheghost

Marktheghost

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It doesn't make sense that abortion is legal, and yet euthanasia isn't.
 
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AcornUnderground

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One has to remember that much of the human population DOES enjoy this life and is NOT suffering. The world is NOT a horrible place at all for the vast majority of people, and death is a very serious matter. For that reason, it is no surprise to me that there are rules in place to keep us here. Not long ago I was one of those people until chronic pain changed everything. It isn't even a matter of seeing things differently - it is living in an entirely different world. Healthy people can have no concept of the suffering. Just my two cents.
 
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TAW122

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Healthy people can have no concept of the suffering. Just my two cents.
That makes sense and this is also why I'm not going to fault them 100% (since they don't know better), however, the refusal to see the other side of the argument, other points of view, and to double-down on their efforts of ignoring, censoring suicidal people's grievances and pains while projecting their "life is great" view onto them is inexcusable. That's the part where I cannot simply condone.
 
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AcornUnderground

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That makes sense and this is also why I'm not going to fault them 100% (since they don't know better), however, the refusal to see the other side of the argument, other points of view, and to double-down on their efforts of ignoring, censoring suicidal people's grievances and pains while projecting their "life is great" view onto them is inexcusable. That's the part where I cannot simply condone.
Believe me I am with you 100%. There should be compassion surrounding pain and suffering, which should be seen and handled much differently. Since I got sick, I've realized how life just goes on with very little regard for real, true suffering. Humans are great at dealing with acute problems and acute pain. Anything past that it seems like we fail miserably.

I saw a similar pattern last year when my mother was dying of brain cancer. When they found the tumor, it was 100% apparent that she was terminal. Still, not only was it highly recommended - it was practically insisted that she have brain surgery, chemo, radiation. I argued against this but no one listened. For a year, we watched my mother deteriorate in pain, poison and suffering. The financial impact was also immense. All the while I was thinking (and saying out loud, to be honest) - it would be money MUCH better, and MUCH less spent investing in counseling for my mother and family to accept her death and softly land that plane as comfortably as possible, vs. spend a year suffering to a gruesome end. Her death was terrible. Two weeks of no food and water. Moaning. Being carried to a toilet. Diapers. Rotating for bed sores. Sponge in mouth for moisture. Starving. I will never understand.
 
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