3 survivors talk about SN-experience

[purplemoon]

If it were that easy, then everyone would be doing it. There's a lot more people using SN as their method.

I WISH i could get N too...
It would be peaceful and painless.

Instead most of us have to go through the nightmare of trying to figure out what 'might' work, and figuring that it's the only option we have.

Plus it's not just about how expensive N would be, or at least for me or people like me,...
I'm too afraid to do anything that's illegal, I don't think the risk is worth it, as I've never been in trouble ever and I can't handle that kind of horrifying trauma being thrown in a cage with violent people and attacked by male prison guards... it's insane they throw people in prison for so many things. This society is a madhouse, you have to be paranoid with every move you make.

Plus I've dated too many cops in my life and been friends with them, so it would be really bizarre, I would be like "are you here for dinner"? LOL

 

[WhyIsLife56]

This is getting a bit out of hand...

These are great case reports by @NextSummer , much appreciated .



Yes, common side effects solved by pain killers etc, regime, warnings (ulcers), and much more....


That's kind of the point, failing N or SN may be painful


There are reports, people stayed and watch. Rarely report or show pain

In short, people can learn a lot with a bit of re/search before.

It would also be better to do at least look around the resources compilation before they act ignorant of other people and their methods.

 

[Quarky00]

It would also be better to do at least look around the resources compilation ....

I understand that . I felt frustrated . But we can calmly educate ourselves , together :) We have no other option .. most here are already fighting their own lives .

 

[jgm63]

Regarding the peacefulness aspect....

Like many on this site, I've read many different accounts, from various sources.
The overall impression I get is that it's fairly peaceful.
I believe there will likely be some discomfort, but I don't believe the discomfort level is too high.
I have heard it described as being like a "bad hangover".
I believe you would go unconscious after about 20 minutes.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Regarding the peacefulness aspect....

Like many on this site, I've read many different accounts, from various sources.
The overall impression I get is that it's fairly peaceful.
I believe there will likely be some discomfort, but I don't believe the discomfort level is too high.
I have heard it described as being like a "bad hangover".
I believe you would go unconscious after about 20 minutes.

Discomfort can be pain to some people.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

They took a weak antiemetic. Taking a strong one would've helped since blocking the dopamine helps with the brain blocking out the pain.

Thank you @WhyIsLife56 . I didn't know that blocking dopamine blocks out pain. That's one of the only things i fear unbearable pain , or disability. I don't fear death i welcome it because it's an escape from this nightmare i'm in. I wonder if taking 40mg Metoclopramide would be even better than 30mg ? hmmmm

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Thank you @WhyIsLife56 . I didn't know that blocking dopamine blocks out pain. That's one of the only things i fear unbearable pain , or disability. I don't fear death i welcome it because it's an escape from this nightmare i'm in. I wonder if taking 40mg Metoclopramide would be even better than 30mg ? hmmmm

I would stick to 30mg because of the potential side effects. Dopamine is a pleasure chemical so blocking out pleasure means you can also minimize the pain.

 

[jgm63]

Discomfort can be pain to some people.

Sure, well in the end each person has to decide for themselves based on reading the various bits of information around.
People who really feel as though they can't withstand any discomfort may want to look for other methods.
But they might cause themselves more stress and discomfort doing that than they would experience from SN.


I guess in the end, it's "to each their own".

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Sure, well in the end each person has to decide for themselves based on reading the various bits of information around.
People who really feel as though they can't withstand any discomfort may want to look for other methods.
But they might cause themselves more stress and discomfort doing that than they would experience from SN.


I guess in the end, it's "to each their own".

Yeah that's why I said to expect some pain. Expecting some pain can help you able to act accordingly. :)

 

[jgm63]

Thank you @WhyIsLife56 . I didn't know that blocking dopamine blocks out pain. That's one of the only things i fear unbearable pain , or disability. I don't fear death i welcome it because it's an escape from this nightmare i'm in. I wonder if taking 40mg Metoclopramide would be even better than 30mg ? hmmmm

The stat dose for meto used to be 60mg in the PPH, until it was changed to 30mg.
I don't know the background / reason, etc. Perhaps more frequent EPS occurences ?
In theory, if you built up by doing some tests, you might be able to use 60mg.
I think some people go in between, at 45mg.

This is about N rather than SN, but explains the pros/cons of stat dose vs 48 hour anti-emetic regime, and covers some EPS and anti-emetic testing points - see "Notes" section... (the anti-emetic regime is the same for N and SN) :

Spoiler: n-protocol-regime-regimen-notes

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-protocol-regime-regimen-notes.27092/

There's also quite a bit of info in various additional posts lower down in the thread.

NB If you find out more from research, then please share....

 

[WhyIsLife56]

The stat dose for meto used to be 60mg in the PPH, until it was changed to 30mg.
I don't know the background / reason, etc. Perhaps more frequent EPS occurences ?
In theory, if you built up by doing some tests, you might be able to use 60mg.
I think some people go in between, at 45mg.

This is about N rather than SN, but explains the pros/cons of stat dose vs 48 hour anti-emetic regime, and covers some EPS and anti-emetic testing points - see "Notes" section... (the anti-emetic regime is the same for N and SN) :

Spoiler: n-protocol-regime-regimen-notes

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-protocol-regime-regimen-notes.27092/

There's also quite a bit of info in various additional posts lower down in the thread.

NB If you find out more from research, then please share....

Because it was originally written for sick and old people I believe

 

[Quarky00]

I wonder if taking 40mg Metoclopramide would be even better

Meto can be harsh . See threads – someone just aborted ctb due to meto migraines . Don't just use tons of meto . Research . You may test small doses before .

@jgm63 , @WhyIsLife56 – Can somewhat confirm tolerance, less side-effects . Single dose was terrible . But 5mg with bit of painkillers , later 10mg etc over 24h was good enough for me (very smooth) . Repeated to verify . I'm not old but malnutrition, headaches, body dislike "serotoninic" things .

 

[TowerUpright]

Thank you for sharing these stories and doing the legwork. It's very enlightening.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Meto can be harsh . See threads – someone just aborted ctb due to meto migraines . Don't just use tons of meto . Research . You may test small doses before .

@jgm63 , @WhyIsLife56 – Can somewhat confirm tolerance, less side-effects . Single dose was terrible . But 5mg with bit of painkillers , later 10mg etc over 24h was good enough for me (very smooth) . Repeated to verify . I'm not old but malnutrition, headaches, body dislike "serotoninic" things .

In other words, know what your body tolerates and use the right medication drugs to help do the job.

 

[Quarky00]

* Currently cannot locate posts where people watched & documented successful SN travels.. That could also be compiled. Other than vomiting not much pain reported. Some headaches. Some anxiety. Easily "solved" by some sedative / NSAIDs / AE etc.

Discomfort can be pain to some people.

Reports were discomfort, a simple discomfort.... Like, "I don't feel comfortable sitting like that, tired, need to lie down in a comfortable position". :)

 

[WhyIsLife56]

* Currently cannot locate posts where people watched & documented successful SN travels.. That could also be compiled. Other than vomiting not much pain reported. Some headaches. Some anxiety. Easily "solved" by some sedative / NSAIDs / AE etc.


Reports were discomfort, a simple discomfort.... Like, "I don't feel comfortable sitting like that, tired, need to lie down in a comfortable position". :)

There's probably different degrees of discomfort depending on what medication drugs they took and how much.

 

[jgm63]

Meto can be harsh . See threads – someone just aborted ctb due to meto migraines . Don't just use tons of meto . Research . You may test small doses before .

@jgm63 , @WhyIsLife56 – Can somewhat confirm tolerance, less side-effects . Single dose was terrible . But 5mg with bit of painkillers , later 10mg etc over 24h was good enough for me (very smooth) . Repeated to verify . I'm not old but malnutrition, headaches, body dislike "serotoninic" things .

This post has some more info that may be worth a read :

Spoiler: post-517024

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-protocol-regime-regimen-notes.27092/post-517024

May be a good idea to have some diphenhydramine on standby.....

 

[Saddad]

There are quite a few accounts of pain and discomfort with the SN method.

I have the SN method

Dont want to spend my last few moments I'm pain or panicking with racing heart. Also the smurf aesthetic is off putting for me.

Have the nitrogen method but flinched on my two attempts, got as far as tingling extremities and narrowing vision. Not keen on the aesthetic with bag on head.

I have been told that 1g of H snorted on it's own should be enough to ctb for opiod niave but not 100%.

Combined with some oxycodone is much more likely/certain. It would be a case of passing out and forgetting to breath.

With the oxy the fear is of vomiting. I have 15 80mg slow release well 14 now just crushed 1 to see if its snortable. Some people recommend soaking in cola and drinking to speed release up and gain euphoria. Thoughts?

I am beginning to form a plan.

45mins before 40mg meto.

30mins before pop 30mg zopi or amitriptyline or both. Washed down coke

Pop x2 oxy (scrape and break) wash down with alchol or coke,

bomb .5g H

pop x2 oxy

Have 160 mg of oxycode crushed and mixed with H
snort .5g H and oxy.


Lay down


Not sure the amitriptyline has much of a role in this. Would it knock me out?

Not sure on exact amounts to ensure Ctb but not vomiting.

Onr question is if just 1g of H snorted can be so effective why do more people not choose this route?

I am a no expert but euphoria and endless sleep seems pretty good?

Am I missing something and will I just end up a vegitable on dyalis.

 

[NextSummer]

For the archive, no.4: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/im-still-alive.29692/

 

[WhyIsLife56]

For the archive, no.4: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/im-still-alive.29692/

How were they found so fast? That's kinda creepy

 

[animatriste]

Two years ago I took 2 mg of N powder to try what it would have been like and I woke up after 12 hours in the hospital. I also threw up my soul. I hadn't taken AEs. I confirm that N is the best and most reliable method

 

[Sunshine]

Why did number 3 experience "unbearable pain" ? Wtf?

 

[Sensei]

But they might cause themselves more stress and discomfort doing that than they would experience from SN.

I'm not sure I agree. There are substances which are euphoria-inducing and not very risky when it comes to injury after a failed attempt. Admittedly, most of them are difficult to come by, though. Well, each to their own.

 

[Jean4]

If you prepare, are not found, and follow Stan's guide, you won't fail.

Stan proved it. ;)

@APharmaDestroyedLife

 

[APharmaDestroyedLife]

If you prepare, are not found, and follow Stan's guide, you won't fail.

Stan proved it. ;)

@APharmaDestroyedLife

I don't doubt it, what my concern has always been is the promotion of this as quick and peaceful. Because for some people it is not. The reason I bring this up is purely for awareness. If you happen to be one of those people that do not pass out for 20 minutes, when you are expecting 5 minutes. That extra 15 minutes is a lot of time for anxiety and Survival Instinct to take over. Then if you call for help you're in the psych ward.

I really do not doubt it's effectiveness, i do however object to it being recklessly promoted as peaceful by EI.

Stan did a great job covering everything I am talking about. The possible side effects, the time to unconciousness, the anxiety, the variables. Stan did not sugar coat it. But I think EI is really dropping the ball on this, they do not even mention the permanent discoloration.

From all the accounts I have read. For some it is very fast and easy, but for some it is not. What "peaceful" is could vary from person to person. I think people associate peaceful with a sedative type feeling. If you happen to have slow metabolism and are completely aware and awake for 20 minutes, The Anxiety from the SI may make this far from peaceful.

I just do not believe SN is 1 size fits all, mainly because of the variations in blood pressure and metabolism. from the posts I have read , the way it feels and the time to being unconscious is greatly different from person to person.

Again I think Stan did a great job in giving accurate information, he covered all the possible variables. Exit is not really doing any of that.

 

[Neville1]

How were they found so fast? That's kinda creepy

That she was inexplicably found so quickly and that she was sought by the police without exigent circumstances are not the only oddities of the story. OP previously made a nearly identical post minus the SN: police broke into the hotel room without knocking, she was examined by doctor at hotel, rushed to the hospital and later evaluated for psych detention. In both, many details are unclear, omitted or incredible. Having taken SN minutes earlier, being escorted by police, vomiting at the front desk and having an ambulance waiting, it's incredible that OP manages to check out of hotel.
I would take this one with grain of salt and wouldn't recommend it for forming an opinion on taking SN.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

That she was inexplicably found so quickly and that she was sought by the police without exigent circumstances are not the only oddities of the story. OP previously made a nearly identical post minus the SN: police broke into the hotel room without knocking, she was examined by doctor at hotel, rushed to the hospital and later evaluated for psych ward. In both, many details are unclear, omitted or incredible. Having taken SN minutes earlier, being escorted by police, vomiting at the front desk and having an ambulance waiting, it's incredible that OP manages to check out of hotel.
I would take this one with grain of salt and wouldn't recommend it for forming an opinion on taking SN.

I had to read it a few times to figure out if there was something amiss but all I could find out was that the person was on suicide watch.
There does seem to be some details missing.

 

[Daffodil]

This

I had to read it a few times to figure out if there was something amiss but all I could find out was that the person was on suicide watch.
There does seem to be some details missing.

Those missing details are really bothersome to me. Seem like critical details to leave out, wonder if that story is made up.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

This

Those missing details are really bothersome to me. Seem like critical details to leave out, wonder if that story is made up.

How is possible to make an attempt when you're on suicide watch though?

 

[Daffodil]

How is possible to make an attempt when you're on suicide watch though?

After reading that story I think it's completely bs. It doesn't sound like a story of someone who's under a lot of stress. I've been in the hospital and I was freaking out for days, I would not calmly write such a succinct and self-reflective, calm report right away. I'm honestly mad at the poster because I'm 99% sure it's made up. "Am I dead?" "No I can't be" Give me a frigging break, are you an author or did you just survive death? I wonder how many of the "police stopped me" stories are false.