2am Ponderings on Slow Suicide

[ixkitty]

So.. IF someone gets a totally preventable disease, i.e. Cancer, and choses not to take any curing methods and dies... Would that be considered suicide?

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Yes, same principle as suicide by dehydration or hypothermia. Unless there is some religious / ideological / or other reason for it, idk.

 

[Symbiote]

People who get Stage 4 of whatever cancer and chose not to go through chemo but ride it out until death isn't considered suicide. It's more like shit out of luck. There are people who choose not to have chemo for cancer because the side effects would be too detrimental for quality of life.

 

[ixkitty]

People who get Stage 4 of whatever cancer and chose not to go through chemo but ride it out until death isn't considered suicide. It's more like shit out of luck. There are people who choose not to have chemo for cancer because the side effects would be too detrimental for quality of life.

So due to it being a tangible and visible illness... I guess no to suicide? Also, cancer's the first thing that came to mind.. Someone I asked mentioned going over seas and drinking tainted water knowing you'll get something that's definitely preventable but deciding to do nothing about it..

 

[Throwmyselfaway]

I've already stated if I end up with cancer again I won't get through chemo or radiation. I've seen what that does.

 

[ixkitty]

Yes, same principle as suicide by dehydration or hypothermia. Unless there is some religious / ideological / or other reason for it, idk.

Yeah, I think it'd be suicide as well... Like pneumonia is entirely preventable but not treating it and dying from it... could be considered suicide... I was inquiring because these things are tangible vs depression and anxiety.. which isn't..

I've already stated if I end up with cancer again I won't get through chemo or radiation. I've seen what that does.

Yeah, my sister had Breast cancer and it was in the way early stages...so she got treated which started my tiny seed of brain thoughts. As someone suicidal ... if I got cancer, or any other preventable disease, would I want treatment ? If I do, my brain says that's me having a will to live.... even though I know discomfort is another good reason.. If I don't... would I get judged as hard as I am for being suicidal or would it be completely different since I'm not hanging or slitting my wrists or shooting myself.

 

[Symbiote]

So due to it being a tangible and visible illness... I guess no to suicide? Also, cancer's the first thing that came to mind.. Someone I asked mentioned going over seas and drinking tainted water knowing you'll get something that's definitely preventable but deciding to do nothing about it..

I remember some guy long ago drank gasoline on purpose to get stomach cancer. He sipped small amounts every day for like 5 years and eventually got it. Of course his intention was suicidal and it got him committed to a ward, but that would be something that counts as a suicidal gesture. If the intention is to die, and having to do it to yourself by actions, not by nature itself, then it's a suicide. Drinking tainted water overseas falls on a grey line unless he literally bent down and drank the water flowing off the street or drank out of an industrial pond.

 

[ixkitty]

I remember some guy long ago drank gasoline on purpose to get stomach cancer. He sipped small amounts every day for like 5 years and eventually got it. Of course his intention was suicidal and it got him committed to a ward, but that would be something that counts as a suicidal gesture. If the intention is to die, and having to do it to yourself by actions, not by nature itself, then it's a suicide. Drinking tainted water overseas falls on a grey line unless he literally bent down and drank the water flowing off the street or drank out of an industrial pond.

Okay, that's actually interesting.. I appreciate that informed response.

 

[Mentalmick]

I remember some guy long ago drank gasoline on purpose to get stomach cancer. He sipped small amounts every day for like 5 years and eventually got it. Of course his intention was suicidal and it got him committed to a ward, but that would be something that counts as a suicidal gesture. If the intention is to die, and having to do it to yourself by actions, not by nature itself, then it's a suicide. Drinking tainted water overseas falls on a grey line unless he literally bent down and drank the water flowing off the street or drank out of an industrial pond.

Gasoline? Fuck that, that stuff tastes disgusting. Used to nick petrol for my scrambler using the old pipe method. Usually with a roll up in my mouth.

 

[tiredoflife1964]

My preferred method would be Nembutal ....but I have no idea where to obtain it. There are many many scammers out there so chances are I'd just lose money and that's all. Hanging is another possibility and it doesn't need to be full suspension. Many have done it just hanging from a door knob / door handle and kneeling / slumping down. Or knocking a nail into the top of a door, attaching a noose and... probably unconscious in seconds.
Then there is starvation and hypothermia. With starvation the worst hunger pangs are over in the first few days. But it can take several weeks.

With hypothermia you just need to go somewhere freezing cold with something to lay down on, strip down to underwear and overnight you will die. Alcohol would speed up death by increasing blood supply to your capillaries and lowering your core temperature quicker. And it would look like you got drunk, stripped off because you were drunk and not necessarily suicide. You could always light a fire the day before and deliberately put it out so that when discovered it looks like an accident or misadventure in that the fire went out that night and you froze to death. My only concern would be animals scavenging my corpse or if they did that before I was truly dead.
I suppose renting a log cabin for a few days and leaving the windows open would be one way around that. Would need to be somewhere like Norway or Alaska or Switzerland and in the winter. You would shake violently, then the shaking stop and then you would feel warm although you aren't warm and then pass into unconsciousness...

 

[OnlyTheWind]

Gasoline? Fuck that, that stuff tastes disgusting. Used to nick petrol for my scrambler using the old pipe method. Usually with a roll up in my mouth.

I love the smell of gasoline though.

 

[agate]

I'm hoping to develop a serious disease like cancer , so I don't have to do a thing to die and it won't be considered suicide (for my sons' sake)
Every time I have some symptoms of some sort I'm hoping cancer!
But off course with my luck that will never happen. If I want/hope for something in life it's for sure not to happen , that much I've seen.