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MariV

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I cant seem to get a definite answer on this. Anyone with knowledge or preferably experience? thx
 
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rt1989526

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I would go with morphine first if I had access to it although I don't know anything about it. Because I don't have access I'm going SN
 
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I don't know much about morphine and have no access to it, so I would choose SN. I would research to be sure if you choose morphine
 
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MariV

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I don't know much about morphine and have no access to it, so I would choose SN. I would research to be sure if you choose morphine
im researching but its impossible to find an answer. ive read so many different quantities.
also dont you just puke when you take a load of pills?
any insomniac around? :)
 
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MariV

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I would go with morphine first if I had access to it although I don't know anything about it. Because I don't have access I'm going SN
but whats the lethal dose taken orally? and time to death? and what about puking?
 
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I am debating this myself. I think the morphine will be more pleasant but the SN has the greatest chance.
 
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but whats the lethal dose taken orally? and time to death? and what about puking?

No idea. I don't know anything about morphine but it's widely accepted that it's a peaceful death. Search for the Peaceful Pill eBook on this site there is a section dedicated to morphine I believe.
 
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MariV

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No idea. I don't know anything about morphine but it's widely accepted that it's a peaceful death. Search for the Peaceful Pill eBook on this site there is a section dedicated to morphine I believe.
they say what the poster above says. more peaceful but slower and less reliable
I am debating this myself. I think the morphine will be more pleasant but the SN has the greatest chance.
any idea about morphine oral lethal dose?
 
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In most states, where euthanasia is illegal, physicians and nurses can offer only hints and euphemisms for patients to interpret. Some doctors and nurses will hint, vaguely, how to do it.

Some doctors and nurses want to help but also want to avoid prosecution, so they speak carefully, parsing their words.

(Doctor) He hugged me and asked me how I was holding up," she says. "And then he handed me a bottle of liquid morphine. He said, 'You might need it.' " (for husband)

She handed the bottle back. She told the doctor the hospice was going to bring a machine that would administer Falk's pain medication automatically.

"And he looked at me," she says, "and he held my gaze for a second. And he put it back in my hand and he said, 'You might need it.'"

I would not want to try and tell somebody what I think is a good oral dosage needed to die. Too many variables, especially when being ingested orally.

Morphine Sulfate
Rat Oral LD50 461 mg/kg
Mouse Oral LD50 600mg/kg
Mouse Intravenous LD50 156mg/kg

Toxicity Morphine Sulfate
The LD50 is 0.78µg/mL in males and 0.98µg/mL in females.

Morphine addicts can grow to tolerate over 2 grams of it in a day, though it normally only may take about 200-300 milligrams to induce a fatal overdose (60 in extreme cases) depending on the person and/or their tolerance level.
 
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Morphine addicts can grow to tolerate over 2 grams of it in a day, though it normally only may take about 200-300 milligrams to induce a fatal overdose (60 in extreme cases) depending on the person and/or their tolerance level.
u sure of this? i might be trying soon. ive taken 50mg tapentadol for a while though but i think my tolerance wont be too high because of it
 
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Mm MariV, why dont u just take both ?? Doble chance, and pain release insurance, on internet morphine sulfate LD50 is 300 mg, as our friend said

I think im going soon, with Chinesse N, and 1-2 g of Potassium cyanide. Im thinking about, take the N, then try to wait 3-4 minutes or the first simptomps to set in before i ingest a pill loaded with cyanide, also ill ideallly have a rope ready, in a tree in case shit happends. If i survive this, then dunno, what ill do next.
 
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rt1989526

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I believe you are in a supportive pro-choice environment where you won't be committed and have your supplies stolen after a failure right? If that's the case you can try one and then the other if it fails.
 
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u sure of this? i might be trying soon. ive taken 50mg tapentadol for a while though but i think my tolerance wont be too high because of it

I am sure about this.. the dosage taken both oral and IV varies greatly from person to person for causing a fatal overdose. Tolerance is a big deal if they have one. Tolerance will effect things in unpredictable ways.

Vomiting would be worrisome. Have you thought about it, or have something to to take to help with nausea and vomiting up the morphine?

In toxicology, synergism refers to the effect caused when exposure to two or more chemicals at one time results in health effects that are greater than the sum of the effects of the individual chemicals.

I do not think SN for good synergy with morphine...

Morphine would be a pleasant one, in my opinion.
 
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If I remember correctly, 300mg is the starting lethal dose. But that is for instant release, if you have extended release you need to double it - so now you are up to 600mg. Then you need to consider tolerance. This would work for someone who hasn't developed a tolerance to any opiate. If you have a tolerance then you need to increase again to some higher amount. And it is this higher amount which is unknown.
 
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Morphine, Heroin and fentanyl are extremely potent painkillers. These opiods will make any death even in a painful method painless imo. They would even make drowning painless if you take enough of them imo. They use opiods to treat acute pain from accidents and extreme cancer pain ( but they use these in tiny amounts so one using larger amounts for ctb purposes would make death painless imo).

These opiods could be the "Button" every one keeps searching for especially fentanyl . The reason they are not the button is they made them illegal and fentanyl seems practically banned from the world imo (can't be found on the dark web even now : but if any one has info on how to obtain these i hope you can post it or PM it).
 
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MariV

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If I remember correctly, 300mg is the starting lethal dose. But that is for instant release, if you have extended release you need to double it - so now you are up to 600mg. Then you need to consider tolerance. This would work for someone who hasn't developed a tolerance to any opiate. If you have a tolerance then you need to increase again to some higher amount. And it is this higher amount which is unknown.
well crushing them makes them instant release or?
well ive taken tapentadol for some momths but tried one of the pills and felt so dizzy. i guess 1800 mg should be enogh ig lf i dont puke or?
 
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MariV

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Vomiting would be worrisome. Have you thought about it, or have something to to take to help with nausea
yes i have meto. y could take 3x. then i would crush the pills, mix them with water and drink it. i could take some antiacids aswell.
i also wonder aboit the time to death as i want to ctb at home when my mother is not home
Plug it rectally, this way you won't puke it.
dont have the tools :(
 
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Jul 5, 2020
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I thought it through and I think you should give morphine a try.

In case of failure there's a small chance you will suffer from something more serious than light constipation and tiredness. However it objectively has a chance to give you smooth and peaceful journey. I've taken dozens of pills and actually I have never thrown up them.

You said that you had been addicted before so slight withdrawal after morphine intoxication in case of failure won't make an impression on you. I would advise not to crush the pills as their bitter taste can actually make you puke. Besides, from personal experience I know it doesn't strengthen the power of drug significantly. Just make sure to do a proper fasting (min. 12 hours) but I guess it's obvious.

About 1 hour before intoxication eat 3 large grapefruits (do not drink juice as it might be too processed to contain required substances). These fruit has substances that can increase the blood concetration of morhpine even by 100%. It does so by blocking the enzymes used to metabolize morphine. I have tested it during my addiction road so I can say it's very legit. Here's the scientific proof : https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19043223/

Good luck.
 
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I thought it through and I think you should give morphine a try.

In case of failure there's a small chance you will suffer from something more serious than light constipation and tiredness. However it objectively has a chance to give you smooth and peaceful journey. I've taken dozens of pills and actually I have never thrown up them.

You said that you had been addicted before so slight withdrawal after morphine intoxication in case of failure won't make an impression on you. I would advise not to crush the pills as their bitter taste can actually make you puke. Besides, from personal experience I know it doesn't strengthen the power of drug significantly. Just make sure to do a proper fasting (min. 12 hours) but I guess it's obvious.

About 1 hour before intoxication eat 3 large grapefruits (do not drink juice as it might be too processed to contain required substances). These fruit has substances that can increase the blood concetration of morhpine even by 100%. It does so by blocking the enzymes used to metabolize morphine. I have tested it during my addiction road so I can say it's very legit. Here's the scientific proof : https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19043223/

Good luck.
not crush the pills? but they are slow release...
 
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grungeCat

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Jul 5, 2020
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not crush the pills? but they are slow release...
Oh, I have overlooked this circumstance... in that case you have to crush them. I have no idea if it will be too disgusting to swallow it down. However I still think morhpine would provide more peaceful farewell than SN.
 
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yetme

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Oct 20, 2019
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not crush the pills? but they are slow release...

Mari hi!
the slow release doesn't depend on the capsule. it's the carrier substance.
agreed about grape fruit. I use it to keep my
 
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I would first get high with morphine and then SN
 

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