“you’re diagnosed with this...you’re diagnosed with that” says the psycgolosts.

[worldexploder]

Personally, I have been diagnosed with major depressive disorder, severe anxiety, childhood related PTSD, and Borderline Personality Disorder.

How can you put a label on a brain. The most complex organ in the known universe. We all have cognitive compasses that points us to ethier neuroticism or contentment. Everytime I see a new psychiatrist, they label me as "bi-polar". It's a catch all term that I have to defend against because I don't have "good days". Never had a manic episode ether.

An honest psychologist should ask -"does your life suck, is it mediocre, or is it decent? And why?" Simple as that. You don't need any "schooling" to figure out if someone's life sucks or not. People are making way too much money off of complexities that don't need to exist.

 

[Wantingpeace]

Yes i think it is all crap actually. I'm not saying that excruaciting mental conditions don't exist but that putting a label on doesn't feel sound right to me. It is really putting a barrier between what would be considered "normal" and "not normal" which i thimk is damaging and a segregation between client and practitioner.

 

[Temporarilyabsurd]

Truth Serum flowing in this thread .

I present as normal ( wtf that is ) 'cos of chidhood salesman training . ( little willy loman , jesus )

Yup , Door to door bibles every saturday.

Now that kind of thing sends you insane , BUT you can learn to fool almost everyone you meet for those few minutes .... a similair length of time to a medical consultation .

The first time I 'presented ' to my GP, I said ; " Please give me something .... I don't want to feel like this anymore "
Twenty years ago almost ... Dr. wasn't buying that , and quizzed me about my chemical intake ...

So , I wasn't referred to a psychiatrist , but to a drug and alcohol dude and a psychologist ( softy soft soft listening ear for an hour but no drilling into the decay . )

On self reflection / introspection and internetness and a few books I can slap a pile of labels on myself ... and for the grace ( snort ) of salesman slavery well adjusted presentation training , slipped eloquently through the system , to such an extent as to be regarded as a malingerer by an old school acquaintance ( now a psych nurse ) when I presented at suicide risk triage or wtf it's called .,

Well who knows ?

Labels labels ... models and models and more models.

 

[samhelloall9]

Self-diagnosed:
Acrophobia
Anxiety
Social anxiety
Possible Asperger's or antisocial
Other personality disorder
OCD
partially bi-polar
PTSD (not to mention hyper-vigilant as a cop).

Good grief me. Good grief. Still, I'm sure Charlie Brown had his fair share of "issues" that the cartoon never addressed. Poor guy never got diagnosed, ha.

 

[samhelloall9]

Personally, I have been diagnosed with major depressive disorder, severe anxiety, childhood related PTSD, and Borderline Personality Disorder.

How can you put a label on a brain. The most complex organ in the known universe. We all have cognitive compasses that points us to ethier neuroticism or contentment. Everytime I see a new psychiatrist, they label me as "bi-polar". It's a catch all term that I have to defend against because I don't have "good days". Never had a manic episode ether.

An honest psychologist should ask -"does your life suck, is it mediocre, or is it decent? And why?" Simple as that. You don't need any "schooling" to figure out if someone's life sucks or not. People are making way too much money off of complexities that don't need to exist.

Without using the word trust....90 percent of the time, I'm sure they do get their diagnoses right.
That being said, they're not perfect. Maybe even easily fooled by their...subjects...at times.

Nothing's perfect.

 

[worldexploder]

Self-diagnosed:
Acrophobia
Anxiety
Social anxiety
Possible Asperger's or antisocial
Other personality disorder
OCD
partially bi-polar
PTSD (not to mention hyper-vigilant as a cop).

Good grief me. Good grief. Still, I'm sure Charlie Brown had his fair share of "issues" that the cartoon never addressed. Poor guy never got diagnosed, ha.

I diagnosed myself with severe neuroticism. That's a catch all diagnosis that is rational. It comes with many subcategories like you discribed. I'm -

Not a happy man
Nervous around crowds of people
Hate my life
Want physician assisted suicide
Easily scared
Alone
Afraid
Tense
Lacking in motivation

All of these can be put into the category of neuroticism. Hence why I don't make any money. For a psychiatrist to make money, they have to learn the ropes in order to give us overcoplicafed diagnoses.

Btw, I'm very good with counciling other people apparently....just horrible with myself. My aunt comes to me with problems she wouldn't dare talk about with my uncle. I dunno...everyone was like that with me. Even my grandma would tell me things she would never tell anyone. Same with my ex wife and other people. I seem to have a "knack" of some sorts. I say things to make people feel better I guess. Maybe I just say it like it is and don't go tattling. People trust me once they know me.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

i dont see how labeling helps with helping people

 

[samhelloall9]

I diagnosed myself with severe neuroticism. That's a catch all diagnosis that is rational. It comes with many subcategories like you discribed. I'm -

Not a happy man
Nervous around crowds of people
Hate my life
Want physician assisted suicide
Easily scared
Alone
Afraid
Tense
Lacking in motivation

All of these can be put into the category of neuroticism. Hence why I don't make any money. For a psychiatrist to make money, they have to learn the ropes in order to give us overcoplicafed diagnoses.

Btw, I'm very good with counciling other people apparently....just horrible with myself. My aunt comes to me with problems she wouldn't dare talk about with my uncle. I dunno...everyone was like that with me. Even my grandma would tell me things she would never tell anyone. Same with my ex wife and other people. I seem to have a "knack" of some sorts. I say things to make people feel better I guess. Maybe I just say it like it is and don't go tattling. People trust me once they know me.

Interesting about the money...hmm. You may be onto something.

 

[worldexploder]

Interesting about the money...hmm. You may be onto something.

Maybe. For me personally, I guess people see me as very trustworthy and understanding hence why they flock to me with their problems. I'm a willing listen and ready to give advice. I don't push the right to die agenda with them. People who come to me with their problems are not wanting to die. I just say what I feel is instinctual and people feel better because of it.

I have proven myself incapable of practicing what I preach. I want to die and everyone who knows me knows it and accepts it.

 

[worldexploder]

i dont see how labeling helps with helping people

Our cognitive modus operendi is on a spectrum - neurotic to content. Easy to self diagnose when understanding ourselves.

 

[samhelloall9]

Our cognitive modus operendi is on a spectrum - neurotic to content. Easy to self diagnose when understanding ourselves.

Ditto

 

[RacilyDank]

Labelling people as one thing or another helps in as much as it guides what treatment they should receive.

I've been diagnosed in the past with generalised anxiety disorder and major depression that is episodic. Now they think I'm bipolar (type 2) which actually makes sense to me. They actually said it's not important what the label is, just what's going to make me feel better. But I've lost hope, hence why I'm here!

 

[Miss clefable]

i dont see how labeling helps with helping people

Exactly

 

[RacilyDank]

i dont see how labeling helps with helping people

Psychiatry is a shit show. It's not necessarily their fault. We don't know enough about the human brain so they throw a load of shit at it and hope something sticks. Labelling just serves to guide treatment options.

 

[worldexploder]

Psychiatry is a shit show. It's not necessarily their fault. We don't know enough about the human brain so they throw a load of shit at it and hope something sticks. Labelling just serves to guide treatment options.

To think, Sigman Fraud, the man who started it all, believed that women were "angry" because they wanted a penis. I'll take neurology over psychology any day.

 

[RacilyDank]

The worst thing about it is that they're banging their heads together trying to find a single cause for things like, for example, depression when there is no single cause for a complicated disorder with many many variables.

So they say it is most likely a combination of genetic, biological and psychosocial factors, in an attempt to explain everyone's illness in one theory.

The fact is, it is different for everyone. Not all depression is created equally. Person A might have a neurological basis and set of symptoms, whereas person B could be because of a detrimental life event and set of symptoms. Some people are not depressed at all but their ongoing sadness for understandable reason is being pathologised and treated in the same way as A or B. It's nuts!

 

[Battered_Seoul]

I am fairly sure I have adult ADHD. Explains many cognitive issues. Suspect I flew under the radar because I am quiet and can focus on written words. However, my interpersonal focus, planning, and stress tolerance are an absolute disaster. Strangely, no medical/psychiatric professional has even considered it.