Would you ever call an ambulance?

[Ruru-san]

Let's say you were walking through a forest and you saw a body hanging. It seems to have been done recently and the body is still warm. If you were to call an ambulance , there is a chance they would be revived. Would you? Why/why not?

 

[Hymn223]

it really depends bc theres so many things you cant know. what if they regretted it at the last moment as they kicked away the ladder? what if it was just framed to look like a suicide and there was actually malicious activity involved?

 

[FuneralCry]

No, to me forcing people to suffer in this existence against their wishes is such a terrible crime to me that just causes so much more pain and suffering, it's so horrific to me how pro-lifers want to force others to be tortured in this existence for as much and as long as possible with no limit as to how much they can suffer.

I see so much evil in anti-suicide, anti-suicide is such terrible extreme cruelty, there is so much cruelty in how they want to make existence into a prison where one cannot painlessly escape, there's so much cruelty in how these people want to do all they can to torture and trap people in this existence. The fact that humans cannot just die painlessly with no risk of anti-suicide people causing them to suffer way more is just so horrible, pro-lifers doing this just leads to way more torture, it's so horrifying how one can end up brain damaged in way worse agony from pro-lifers doing this, all I want is to be gone from this evil, torturous existence, it truly is an abomination to exist in this horrific anti-suicide world where the suffering and torture of existing is seen as to force and prolong no matter what.

 

[Dot]

Slf wld cll sme1

Am all abt persnl choic bt tht persnl choic also xtends t/ th/ othr ppl b-ing involntarly brght in2 sme1 els ctb wth 0 prior informatn

B-ing mde prt of sme1 els ctb in tht knd of Nvirnmnt leavs a persn feelng complict in thr deth & brght in2 an IRL stuatn tht thy dd nt ask fr & cld eqully b traumtisd b/

Tht perspctve mght cme acrss as hypcritcl bth on SaSu or fr thse readng frm th/ outsde bt th/ 'socl contrct' fls v dffrnt betwn SaSu & IRL

Am sre thre r mny ppl wh/ wll hld a suffrng famly membr/frnd hnd & b thre fr thm in Switzrlnd whle thy recive VAD bt wld stll try 2 tlk anothr persn dwn frm a brdge if thy suddnly fnd thmslves in tht stuatn

Simlr perspctve

 

[aRose]

Likely I would call but I'd maybe wait a bit. If they question why I waited I'd just say panic/confusion made me take pause.

 

[Forever Sleep]

That's such a difficult question. Easier to answer if they hadn't yet begun the process because at least then, you could talk to them. Even then though- if they were sure they wanted to do it- wouldn't it be hypocritical to stop them?

Really truthfully- I think fear of getting into trouble personally would panic me into doing something. But then, it would feel like such an awful betrayel- if they wanted to go.

Imagine if they had brain damage though? From the attempt being interupted. It would be a terrible position to be in to have to make that choice.

 

[Dot]

It would be a terrible position to be in to have to make that choice.

Tht = slf argmnt

U wre nt askd 2 b placd in tht positn & havng t/ mke tht choic - & eithr decsn tht u mke wld lkely b th/ wrng 1

Obvsly if thre wre mre rght-2-di optns or bettr treatmnt optns out thre thn publc suicdes etc wld nt b as mch of an issu bt imo ppl stll cnnt b blamd fr strugglng wth a tramatc stuatn tht thy dd nt ask fr & hd 0 tme t/ prepre fr in n.e physcl or psycholgcl wy

 

[Forever Sleep]

Tht = slf argmnt

U wre nt askd 2 b placd in tht positn & havng t/ mke tht choic - & eithr decsn tht u mke wld lkely b th/ wrng 1

Obvsly if thre wre mre rght-2-di optns or bettr treatmnt optns out thre thn publc suicdes etc wld nt b as mch of an issu bt imo ppl stll cnnt b blamd fr strugglng wth a tramatc stuatn tht thy dd nt ask fr & hd 0 tme t/ prepre fr in n.e physcl or psycholgcl wy

You'd hope the (hopefully) recovered suicide attempter would see it from our perspective and forgive us if we had stopped them but- as people who can empathise more with their mindset, I imagine it would be hard to forgive ourselves. Especially if they were maimed as a result.

What I think is worse is that truthfully- my panic to stop them would be at least partly out of self preservation. In case I would be in legal trouble or attacked by their family for not stopping them.

But then- I hate the system that keeps us here against our will. And by being too cowardly to ignore the damage it might do to me- I would be working for that system. And possibly causing damage to that person as a result.

Maybe cruel but- if I come across a maimed insect- I'll kill it quickly. It feels like the kinder option if it looks as if it's going to die slowly anyway. I'd want someone to kill me or let me die rather than be maimed but survive in the sane situation. Maybe panic would make me want them to cut me down but that's more SI- surely?

Of course- like you said before- we can't be 100% sure the person was still happy with their decision but then- they'd gotten that far.

I suppose alternatively- I would be questioning why they had chosen a spot so easy to find. It's unlikely I'd be trekking through the undergrowth at some obscure hour. Why didn't they choose somewhere more private at a more desolated time?

It's kind of impossible though. Let's say you knew them and their situation. Would that better inform your response? If you knew they had struggled for years and their quality of life was dreadful with no real hope of improvement- would we feel more justified then- to allow them to leave? If we thought their motives were flimsy though- what's it ultimately got to do with us? We can't actually know their pain. It was obviously bad enough to do that to themselves.

Also I suppose, there's the ultimate right to choose. We allow people to make dumb and unhealthy decisions every single day. In fact- we prize our freedom to have that self autonomy. But not over the most fundamental decision there is- apparently. I have a sort of admiration for people who think they could just not interfere in a way. They're being more true to what they believe in. It would be so hypocritical for me to try to stop someone but I still think there's a good chance I would.