Discussion would you consider a life without love worth living

[Darkover]

Many people would argue that a life completely devoid of love, in any form, would not be considered "worth living" by most, as love is often seen as a fundamental human need that contributes significantly to happiness, fulfillment, and overall well-being;

A loveless life is a worthless one to me

Living without love in your life can be painful. It involves living with feelings of loss and disappointment.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

To me life is not worth living for reasons on top of reasons . But that love or relationship garbage has no meaning for me . i saw past that bs. i have no need to have a romantic relationship, love or even any kind of relationship with a human . it's not like i 've conquered every addiction though. most of my brain still thinks that it needs to wants to do other addictions like youtube garbage , news other crap while everything burns around me. the addiction to youtube distraction social media TV thousands of different things distraction adhd. i did get over that love addiction, friends addiction, and sports addiction, alcohol addiction, smoking addiction, but those are only 5 of which they infected me with.

when i think about it logically rationally , part of my brain realizes that nothing matters except avoiding extreme suffering and extreme pain and that to me then suicide asap would be the only rational act for me .

There are also biological prisons like hunger for food , thirst for water, need for sleep , the avoidance of pain , boredom, that i don't see a way for me to overcome especially not rapidly. so we are all slaves to the body needs, these are instincts that even human babies have. the only way to overcome these prisons slavery is for me to kill this brain asap.

No one can give me a reason for why i have to get a gf or "find love" . no one can say an objective reason for why i have to live another minute or to do anything.

The only real things are extreme suffering , unending constant unbearable pain and extreme torture. any human or other sentient animal can fall into an inescapable trap of long lasting extreme torture any day. non-existence forever is the only way to be safe from these hells nightmares beyond comprehension. non-existence forever is the only perfection. 1 nano second after this brain dies is non-existence forever i will cease to exist and never exist again.

nothing matters except me avoiding extreme suffering and extreme pain. what will matter in 150 years? 10,000 years? a trillion years? nothing . but i can't and won't go through extreme pain. i can skip over a youtube video or a "pleasurable experience" or a relationship as that garbage will be forgotten after Death and certainly after a trillion years. after Death is non-existence forever.

imo all these addictions including the biological ones are sub addictions to the main addiction the addiction to life.to me if i think about it rationally if i love anything in life/ existence / consciousness or this world then i'm loving life /existence/ consciousness / this world . so for me i need to steer myself towards loving only the escape from this world / life / existence /consciousness and to non-existence forever, to love only the escape and non-existence forever

This love or relationship garbage is a scam like life is also. i've seen many many on this site wanting to kill themselves because someone broke up with in them in a romantic relationship. so the breakup causes extreme suffering. that's only one reason why that is a scam but there are more. and this love scam is a sub scam of the bigger scam life. "i want to live to find love" . both are totally unecessary.

only non-existence forever can guarantee never any excruciating pain, extreme suffering , unbearable pain ,bad problems nor bad memories . life and relationships cause pain and problems there was never a need for

 

[Forever Sleep]

Not sure. No love whatsoever? Even from parents? That would be very tough. But then also, how to they truly know what they're missing? I suppose they can still feel envy of others though.

I think you can get by without romantic and plutonic love but, you need something else to sink your life into. I did pretty much ok sinking all my hopes and dreams into a creative career for a long time.

I've never had a relationship. I absolutely had awful crushes on people- limerence which made me miserable but, I never really wanted to die because of them exactly. Maybe I did go through a phase of believing a partner or love would 'save' me but, I finally came to the realisation that what I probably wanted wasn't actually real! Too fairytale. That even the good relationships I saw all around me were filled with crap I wouldn't want to put up with!

Once I came to the conclusion that realistically, I wasn't actually lacking too much. That what I saw as the 'best bits' of a relationship- sharing nice experiences together, supporting one another, were maybe quite small compared to the amount of everyday crap you would need to juggle: compromise, disagreements, obligation, possible clashes with more family members, insecurity they might not feel the same way I do, fear of abandonment. Moving on to the worst scenarios: possible abuse, neglect, abandonment. It made me realise I could actually be so much better off alone!

It made me really start to appreciate my independence. Especially when I see couples bickering- 'Why did you spend all that money on that without telling me?' Couples humiliating each other in front of friends. Hen pecking about what they do or, how little they do. Working up to the very worst case scenarios where they are abused, or even killed. I'm like- nah- I'm probably good!

In some regards, I see parallels with the whole problem around being born issue. Love, like life I'm sure can be amazing. It can also bring a whole lot of suffering. What if your partner cheats? Or betrays you some other way? What if you fall out of love with them? What if they die? I don't know. I suppose I don't regret forming the wonderful memories I did with family members- now deceased but, would I go looking for potential new connections that hurt like hell when they could likely get severed? Probably not.

 

[Forveleth]

13 years ago, before I met my partner, I had been single for a while. I was on dating apps but nothing had really panned out. I had been frustrated and lonely for a bit but I started to get hobbies, find myself, fill my free time, meet friends and through all that I realized I don't really need "love" to be fulfilled. I had a thought, "Hey, I would be totally ok with being single the rest of my life".

Fast-forward a few months and I get a match on a dating app. We hit it off. 13 years later, I am trapped in a relationship that I was manipulated into continuing when I wanted to break it off. My partner is unsympathetic, self-absorbed, and does not know the first thing about putting someone else's needs above your own in a relationship. I found "love" and it is the reason I am on this site.

You do not need love to be happy. I regret every minute I ever spent in pursuit of love. I wish I had spent it on myself instead.

 

[Rational man]

Ive only experienced toxic emotional hate within my paternal family so i guess i was always going to struggle with the term ' love'. When i disowned them aged 18, I was able to deal with the emotional scars at some level to the point where i was able to become involved with a loving partner for a few Years. However, i struggle to trust anyone so relationships are hard on me. Despite that, ive found love in other ways. Nature and animals are soul healing for me so i think thats my future..To be honest, i prefer my own company now. So yes it is possible to live contently so long as we define our meaning of LOVE, which is of course, has different meanings at the personal level and how we receive and give love.

 

[L'absent]

I cannot say that life has intrinsic value, nor that love represents a form of salvation or meaning. Indeed, existence itself is a trap, a succession of sufferings and illusions. Love, like many other things, appears only as a temporary distraction from a deeper, more persistent pain. I find the absurdity of life undeniable. Living without romantic love is not a condemnation, but rather an opportunity to better analyze reality for what it is: a series of experiences that follow one another without a real purpose. I don't look for consolation in relationships, because I know that they too are destined to end, to disappoint, to fade away. They are never authentic, but it is the fiction that distinguishes them. From this perspective, the search for meaning through love seems like an illusion to me. Life can also be accepted in its nakedness, without the expectation that it has to offer something special. My existence is a simple testimony of what is, without the need to look for a value in it that isn't there.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Life isn't worth living regardless of whether there's love in it or not. Regardless of love, it would still be better if all sentient life were to cease to exist right now

 

[requiemforadream]

I wouldn't say so. If you believe you can find love one day it's okay. Being on and off relationships doesn't change much if other life factors sucks. At least that's my perspective. It's not about love and relationships only. It's also about money and if you enjoy things at all. And about much more more things. But hell, love is important.

 

[dontwakemeup]

Welcome to my world. I was adopted and it was a trau.atic experience. Met my biological mother and family and they were nothing I expected or wanted in a family.

My biological mother and sister both have died years ago. I walked away from my adopted family because they wronged me and I couldn't forget the trauma and I refused to be part of a "family" hustle to simply say this is my family.

I won't lie, it's a very lonely life, but who defines lonely? I'm at peace is what I call it. I'd rather be alone then live with people who hurt me.

I have a few friends and my job helps fulfill me. I'm generally ok as I shop a lot and stay to myself. I've decided not to date anymore, I'm done. My hardest times are during the holidays where people often talk about their families and their plans. Of course people will ask you what you did for this holiday and I found it easier to simply lie. People find it difficult to believe that everyone doesn't have a family, so I just make lies when asked. It's easier to tell them a story then say I'm all alone and I stayed home crying.

I attempted several times and obviously wasn't successful. Sometimes you have to simply accept the things that you can't change. I use to have 3 cats and they really helped. I gave my cats away because I didn't have time for them because at that time I worked a lot.

My life is peaceful and quiet. I have no choice but to live. I don't have an identity, I'm all alone. I had good days and I have terrible days. This pattern will continue for the rest of my life and I can't change it.

So yes, you can live without love. I guess you can't miss what you never had.

 

[LukaParrot]

Love... i think it's a biggest part of what makes sense in life.

The second one is money.... yes, I said..... without money you cant live well, not like, oh, I want to be a billionare,... just enough to have a good life.

Sometimes in my posts, I mention that dont wanna to end up old bitter man...... the problem is not getting married, not had the experience of loving and get loved. I know that even if you get married,... things can make a turn in life..... in such a painful ways like divorce or having to burry your loved one.

But the memories, good ones, bad ones, will make it worth like a balance.

An empty life is very sad and I dont wish that to my worst enemy.

 

[Valhala]

13 years ago, before I met my partner, I had been single for a while. I was on dating apps but nothing had really panned out. I had been frustrated and lonely for a bit but I started to get hobbies, find myself, fill my free time, meet friends and through all that I realized I don't really need "love" to be fulfilled. I had a thought, "Hey, I would be totally ok with being single the rest of my life".

Fast-forward a few months and I get a match on a dating app. We hit it off. 13 years later, I am trapped in a relationship that I was manipulated into continuing when I wanted to break it off. My partner is unsympathetic, self-absorbed, and does not know the first thing about putting someone else's needs above your own in a relationship. I found "love" and it is the reason I am on this site.

You do not need love to be happy. I regret every minute I ever spent in pursuit of love. I wish I had spent it on myself instead.

What you have found is not love but a manipulative partner, if you had felt what true love is, you would not have written like this.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

I have love in my life and I still don't consider it worth living

 

[Ligottian]

I've been living without romantic love for all of my 64 years. And yes, it sucks. Still plotting my exit, though.

 

[yxmux]

I don't believe I can be "loved" nor believe I can "love" someone else. I find love in actuality to be very superficial, and it doesn't really exist beyond that for me. Also, realistically, I resent people as a whole too much to love them. To me, it feels more like playing pretend.

 

[Unsure and Useless]

Life is not worth living, but it's not because of the absence of love in one's life. Although, my opinion may be a bit biased since I wasn't exposed to unconditional love in my developmental years, so I'm used to being unlovable.

 

[Life'sA6itch]

I would if other important areas of life are going well or with a reasonable (or less) level of effort could be made to go well. However, to take all of life's assaults and stressess and have no love atop it all is asking too much but selfish others want to tell you not to find the exit.

 

[EternalShore]

No, of course not! >_< It's a big part of why many of us are here unfortunately~ :(

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

I've experienced a lot of love in my life, and it's always been one of my main reasons for living. Love has also torn me to pieces when the relationship fell apart.

There are many forms of love to live for besides romantic. I certainly love my children. Some people have very strong loving platonic relationships. I also admire some people like monks and community builders who find fulfillment in loving humanity as a whole.

The reason I want to CTB is I don't see a future with the kind of loving relationships I need to thrive, I just see a future of loneliness and increasingly severe mental illness.