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bugs_for_brains

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I always encourage him not to start using stuff he doesnt already abuse (i.e. alcohol) but lately he keeps mentioning wanting to try various drugs and today is like the 4th or 5th time hes said hes gonna do diphenhydramine bc he cant get anything else. ik some trusted people in america who sell online so im wondering if I should just give him their @. i dont rlly wanna be responsible for him taking anything especially since hes already prone to hallucinating and delusions while sober but tbh I cant think of anything worse than a literal deliriant especially as a first hallucinogen.

idk i feel bad either way bc if I tell him where to buy "better" drugs they still have a lot of potential to mess him up but if I dont and he starts abusing dph then im also kinda responsible bc I didnt do enough to deter him (obv I tell him info about what it does to u, I even told him when I took it and have a complete 5+ hour memory loss and wrecked my house and threw up all over the place as well as the fact thats not even an uncommon experience and he still wants to try it so idk). Im just a little worried bc knowing him I feel like dph is the worst thing he could use and I dont want him to hurt himself or smth. I live in the UK too so I cant just help him out irl and I doubt I'd be able to call him if he took it since he sometimes gets super paranoid abt online interaction even sober when hes not doing good
I will most likely just wait a bit first bc I have a slight hunch hes actively trying to get me to worry and help him source stuff anyway bc he knows I know how but we'll see how far he takes it :/
I always encourage him not to start using stuff he doesnt already abuse (i.e. alcohol) but lately he keeps mentioning wanting to try various drugs and today is like the 4th or 5th time hes said hes gonna do diphenhydramine bc he cant get anything else. ik some trusted people in america who sell online so im wondering if I should just give him their @. i dont rlly wanna be responsible for him taking anything especially since hes already prone to hallucinating and delusions while sober but tbh I cant think of anything worse than a literal deliriant especially as a first hallucinogen.

idk i feel bad either way bc if I tell him where to buy "better" drugs they still have a lot of potential to mess him up but if I dont and he starts abusing dph then im also kinda responsible bc I didnt do enough to deter him (obv I tell him info about what it does to u, I even told him when I took it and have a complete 5+ hour memory loss and wrecked my house and threw up all over the place as well as the fact thats not even an uncommon experience and he still wants to try it so idk). Im just a little worried bc knowing him I feel like dph is the worst thing he could use and I dont want him to hurt himself or smth. I live in the UK too so I cant just help him out irl and I doubt I'd be able to call him if he took it since he sometimes gets super paranoid abt online interaction even sober when hes not doing good
I will most likely just wait a bit first bc I have a slight hunch hes actively trying to get me to worry and help him source stuff anyway bc he knows I know how but we'll see how far he takes it :/

I forgot to mention he specifically wants to hallucinate hence why i cant just tell him to smoke weed or smth. I dont think any hallucinogen would be okay for him tho im pretty sure they all are bad for ppl with his symptoms
 
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I, like so many, have been around it all, from LSD, to shrooms, to, well most substances. I have never ever tried any form of street drugs including weed, and as far as I am concerned, each to their own, HOWEVER, one has to have responsibility also, so of a person overdoses, whose fault is that? Their own period.

I have helped search for folks at night who were totally strung out of their minds, walking down the middle of a street, wide eyed and sweating and so completely out of it.

So, would I help someone precure drugs? NO WAY. After what I have seen in the decades that I have been on this rock called earth, I would NOT want it on my conscious or soul knowing that maybe, just maybe something went completely south and I had a hand in it, NO WAY. I have enough mental health issues without adding to them by my own hand.

Long story short, close your eyes and look forward with your mind and ask yourself if something goes to hell in a handbasket, could you handle it mentally?

Walter
 
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I, like so many, have been around it all, from LSD, to shrooms, to, well most substances. I have never ever tried any form of street drugs including weed, and as far as I am concerned, each to their own, HOWEVER, one has to have responsibility also, so of a person overdoses, whose fault is that? Their own period.

I have helped search for folks at night who were totally strung out of their minds, walking down the middle of a street, wide eyed and sweating and so completely out of it.

So, would I help someone precure drugs? NO WAY. After what I have seen in the decades that I have been on this rock called earth, I would NOT want it on my conscious or soul knowing that maybe, just maybe something went completely south and I had a hand in it, NO WAY. I have enough mental health issues without adding to them by my own hand.

Long story short, close your eyes and look forward with your mind and ask yourself if something goes to hell in a handbasket, could you handle it mentally?

Walter
thanks for replying, that sort of thing is exactly what im worried about and I guess you're right that if he decides to take smth anyway i cant stop him even if I might feel guilty. I ended up talking him out of it for now but I'll keep this in mind in the future :]
 
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I don't think you should help your friend source drugs that are illegal and deadly. It feels like you are getting roped into classic addict behavior....using every technique they can come up with to find their drugs

Unfortunately, you are not responsible for what they choose to do. Your responsibility really ends with saying "I car about you and would like it if you didn't use".

You could even tell them you aren't interested in hearing about their drug use.

Well, I had a few thoughts about that, sorry if they were too strong!
 
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bugs_for_brains

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I don't think you should help your friend source drugs that are illegal and deadly. It feels like you are getting roped into classic addict behavior....using every technique they can come up with to fond their fiz

Unfortunately, you are not responsible for what they choose to do. Your responsibility really ends with saying "I car about you and would like it if you didn't use".

You could even tell them you aren't interested in hearing about their drug use.

Well, I had a few thoughts about that, sorry if they were too strong!
that wasn't too strong at all i find any responses helpful :] idk why I feel responsible for him tbh but I think you guys are right, my thought process was just to help him get smth safer than what he was going to do but I guess even in that scenario he could still just do whatever he wanted to anyway. I'll let him keep talking about it but im gonna ask him to stop involving me and telling me everytime hes about to take something
 
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that wasn't too strong at all i find any responses helpful :] idk why I feel responsible for him tbh but I think you guys are right, my thought process was just to help him get smth safer than what he was going to do but I guess even in that scenario he could still just do whatever he wanted to anyway. I'll let him keep talking about it but im gonna ask him to stop involving me and telling me everytime hes about to take something
That's great.
 
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