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The one that lowkey freaked me out was on a g**e site where a guy tried it using a shotgun. Blew the entire facial structure of his skull off, like just a canvas of muscle and blood, no jaw remaining or anything.

HE WAS STILL GODDAMN ALIVE.

They had this man strapped to a hospital bed and you can see him freaking out like crazy from the pain and being unable to go anywhere.

It seriously made me question if the Universe is indifferent or sadistic? Its sure as hell not benevolent.
 
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everydaythesame

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Jesus, that is some article! That will make a few people scared of using guns now as suicide.
 
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lifeisbutadream

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The one that lowkey freaked me out was on a g**e site where a guy tried it using a shotgun. Blew the entire facial structure of his skull off, like just a canvas of muscle and blood, no jaw remaining or anything.

HE WAS STILL GODDAMN ALIVE.

They had this man strapped to a hospital bed and you can see him freaking out like crazy from the pain and being unable to go anywhere.

It seriously made me question if the Universe is indifferent or sadistic? Its sure as hell not benevolent.
So cruel so cruel. Do you know if he shot from under his jaw? Most horrors like that occur from the under jaw method, plus immediate assistance. Also, take blood thinner first, aspirin is a blood thinner. Do you have the link?

Guns are no guarantee! Skulls are hard with many curves and angles.


The poor girl must have also shot herself under her chin. That is the worst way.
 
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So cruel so cruel. Do you know if he shot from under his jaw? Most horrors like that occur from the under jaw method, plus immediate assistance. Also, take blood thinner first, aspirin is a blood thinner. Do you have the link?



The poor girl must have also shot herself under her chin. That is the worst way.
I do not have the link since the site that had it was taken down years ago, bestg***.

Have to find aspirin first.
 
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banger12

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That's a horrible story and I feel horrible for the lady.

However, it is worth noting that this is almost certainly the result of an aiming error in which she held the barrel upward to her chin. If you know where to aim, using a firearm is an almost certain success and that this outcome is avoidable if you're aware of what you're doing.
 
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The one that lowkey freaked me out was on a g**e site where a guy tried it using a shotgun. Blew the entire facial structure of his skull off, like just a canvas of muscle and blood, no jaw remaining or anything.

HE WAS STILL GODDAMN ALIVE.

They had this man strapped to a hospital bed and you can see him freaking out like crazy from the pain and being unable to go anywhere.

It seriously made me question if the Universe is indifferent or sadistic? Its sure as hell not benevolent.
iirc there was a case like this where the guy could barely communicate but one of the few things he would "say" was that he still wanted to die. But his mother kept him alive and wouldnt allow it... I can never forget it
 
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The one that lowkey freaked me out was on a g**e site where a guy tried it using a shotgun. Blew the entire facial structure of his skull off, like just a canvas of muscle and blood, no jaw remaining or anything.

HE WAS STILL GODDAMN ALIVE.

They had this man strapped to a hospital bed and you can see him freaking out like crazy from the pain and being unable to go anywhere.

It seriously made me question if the Universe is indifferent or sadistic? Its sure as hell not benevolent.
I saw that one it was so terrible thats why I wouldnt use a gun incase I was that 1 % to end up like that
 
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rozeske

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"She fired the handgun. The bullet pierced through her lip, chin and teeth and lodged in her nose."......"her heart stopped twice, and she was in a coma for two weeks afterwards, having loss massive amounts of blood."

To be fair, misfiring and aggressive resuscitation could've been the two main reasons why she survived than the method itself. Nonetheless, nothing terrifies me more than guns and the aftermath of it's failure. I could never understand how it's most people's method of choice.
 
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the gun method icks me out. just too gruesome and gory
 
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It is shot in the mouth and aimed directly at the brain, then the possibility of failure is reduced to a minimum
 
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Guns are no guarantee! Skulls are hard with many curves and angles.
There's most likely an exemption here because I understand that she might have been struggling with a voice and figure of a man inside her head at the time of her attempt and it was probably an irrational attempt due to the state she was in mentally with very possible hallucinations which obviously is not her fault and she couldn't really control it or do much about it since she had no diagnosis or meds for that at the time. All of this taken into consideration would increase the risks of a failed or less than ideal CTB attempt. All I can say is that it's sad and awful when someone tries to CTB without doing research on their method and while being in a irrational or comprimised state of mind because it can cause you to fail and suffer a lot of pain and permanent consequences. Don't use a firearm if you don't know where to aim or how to use one, and try not to use it if you're not clear headed at the time of attempting to use it. Never aim from the chin. I will still stick to a gun as my second choice of method next to SN.
 
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"Shearing his lip and teeth." Do you realize where he was aiming? They also talk about a person with mental illness.


In recent days a 16 year old boy committed suicide with a gun taken from his father and died immediately. It was the first time he used a weapon.


This news is certainly horrifying, but the whole context must be evaluated.
 
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MBG

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Yeah, this kind of outcome makes me really wish the Rebreather lll had worked every time.

If anyone is a member of the Exit International forum can you ask over there if they've heard if Respiro is going to release a revised Rebreather? After the two successes of Alabama executing prisoners w nitrogen and the success of the SARCO, lots of people around the world probably want a quick, sure, peaceful, non gory, no terror (compared to jumping from height or jumping in front of fast moving vehicle), and relatively inexpensive (~$500) method of CTBing.

Please post over here (and please message me directly) what they say.

FWIW AL has scheduled their third N2 execution for mid November.
 
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Imo a 300 win mag rifle to the head with a bonded bullet cannot fail. This can bring down a giraffe or grizzly at 100 yards at point plank range there will be no head as in Ronnie mcnut
 
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Yep. My shrink told me of a combat vet, someone who knows guns very well, who attempted and the bullet bounced off his skull somehow and he ended up a vegetable. That scares the hell out of me.
 
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Kalista

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judging from her scars on the face, she aimed completely fucking wrong. this is due to her lack of knowledge where to aim the gun correctly and there are enough resources in here to become well informed.

aim towards the brain-stem through the mouth, not under the chin and not at the temple as you've seen in movies. practice the correct angle, then execute when truly ready. with the correct ammunition (hollow point, not full metal jacket), it'll shred the insides of the back of the head well enough to fuck up the brain stem as well. at that close of a range, you'll feel no pain as it blasts the stem cutting the connection to the rest of the body.

this method doesn't need to be difficult beyond the survival instinct. it's just every damn failure with gun attempts that's shared in this forum is a fuck-up on the person themself.
 
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judging from her scars on the face, she aimed completely fucking wrong. this is due to her lack of knowledge where to aim the gun correctly and there are enough resources in here to become well informed.

aim towards the brain-stem through the mouth, not under the chin and not at the temple as you've seen in movies. practice the correct angle, then execute when truly ready. with the correct ammunition (hollow point, not full metal jacket), it'll shred the insides of the back of the head well enough to fuck up the brain stem as well. at that close of a range, you'll feel no pain as it blasts the stem cutting the connection to the rest of the body.

this method doesn't need to be difficult beyond the survival instinct. it's just every damn failure with gun attempts that's shared in this forum is a fuck-up on the person themself.
Does "Failed hard to pull the trigger" refer to SI?
 
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The one that lowkey freaked me out was on a g**e site where a guy tried it using a shotgun. Blew the entire facial structure of his skull off, like just a canvas of muscle and blood, no jaw remaining or anything.

HE WAS STILL GODDAMN ALIVE.

They had this man strapped to a hospital bed and you can see him freaking out like crazy from the pain and being unable to go anywhere.

It seriously made me question if the Universe is indifferent or sadistic? Its sure as hell not benevolent.
thats just brutal. youd have to be a sick piece of shit to try to keep this guy alive after that
 
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deadstillwalking

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because you mustn't use a 90° angle when aiming from underneath the jaw, that will result in your face getting blown off instead of your brain. A 99% success can be achieved if you aim with a 80°~ angle. Just make sure the tip is pointing toward the brain, not the face. A simple look at the anatomy of a human body should do the thing if you aren't sure, but brains are usually big enough not to miss.
 
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Yep. My shrink told me of a combat vet, someone who knows guns very well, who attempted and the bullet bounced off his skull somehow and he ended up a vegetable. That scares the hell out of me.
Depends what "vegetable" means. I wouldn't mind becoming a vegetable myself, if it meant my body lived but I was no longer there as a conscious person.

BTW, I remember seeing a security camera footage some time ago of a guy that shot someone and then killed himself by shooting himself in the head from the side, I think he put the gun slightly above the ear. He definitely died. I wonder why most people here suggest to put barrel in the mouth and aim for the brain stem, while shooting from the side seems much simpler. I'm not going to attempt it, I'm just curious.
 
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Guns are no guarantee! Skulls are hard with many curves and angles.
I think I've seen some tiktoks of here documenting her recovery. She seems remarkably positive about getting patched up and 'helping people' now. Seems like it was an impulsive move but I don't know what it's like to hear voices.
 
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lifeisbutadream

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Depends what "vegetable" means. I wouldn't mind becoming a vegetable myself, if it meant my body lived but I was no longer there as a conscious person.

BTW, I remember seeing a security camera footage some time ago of a guy that shot someone and then killed himself by shooting himself in the head from the side, I think he put the gun slightly above the ear. He definitely died. I wonder why most people here suggest to put barrel in the mouth and aim for the brain stem, while shooting from the side seems much simpler. I'm not going to attempt it, I'm just curious.

There are different parts of the side of the head. You might hold the barrel too far forward or back, and I think there is less chance of flinching - last instant moving the barrel - with the barrel in the mouth. Also the explosive force of shotgun gasses in the mouth, aside from the shell itself, might alone do the job.

Once i read that if you first filled your mouth with water your whole head would explode. I think they were referring to a shotgun. I don't know if it's true. I don't even know how that could be done. Maybe with a large caliber handgun with your face tilted upwards. It makes sense inasmuch as the explosive gasses would force an expansion and if you filled your mouth with water and somehow made an airtight seal around your mouth, but how could that be done? Perhaps just closing your lips tightly upon the barrel.
 
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Honestly, all CTB attempts have only a certain degree of mortality. There is no 100% guaranteed way to commit suicide. There have been people who have survived jumping in front of trains, yet some people die from OTC medication overdoses, some people miraculously survive jumping from the golden gate bridge (very very rare) while most people succeed and CTB.

The world is odd and the human body is indomitable at its best. It will do whatever it can to survive. You can aim the gun to your head, shoot but hesitantly misfire in a direction where you injure yourself instead of critically hitting yourself. Kind sucks ass, some people get lucky CTB-ing with some methods and some people are cursed to live
 
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I'm late to this thread, but I'll give my inputs on this particular scenario. I know this may discourage or even give doubts to people who are considering the firearm as their method of choice (I'm not deterred personally), but after studying what went wrong, I could conclude several factors. The first one being that she flinched and jerked the gun as she fired which resulted in not hitting the vital areas (brainstem and then hitting some other parts that result in failure and further suffering), then of course aiming under the chin (absolutely NOT recommended and contrary to what the movies and media show) results in the bullet hitting somewhere where it isn't imminent death but likely survivable but with permanent disfigurement and damage. Finally, being able to steadily aim and being in a clear, coherent state of mind (more than enough to focus and have enough motor function to aim properly) is important too, hence why there are some people who even recommend against being too heavily under the influence of drugs or alcohol as that may be counterproductive towards the execution/attempt of the method.

Finally, the firearm method is not a method to be taken lightly and can be worse (permanent severe debility, ending up as a vegetable unable to CTB and then forced to live in agony for the rest of one's life) if one fails, thus it is highly recommended to thoroughly and properly do one's research for this method (or any method in general), and also not to attempt when one has any hesitation or compromise to their ability to carry it out.
 
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