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I am proud of myself the title is somewhat creative.

I don't like Musk. But there are even billionaires who I dislike even more like Peter Thiel for example. I know some people who seriously consider to leave Twitter now. I am not sure what I would do.

I mean the story is kind of clear so far. Musk was kind of arrogant and wanted to brag. He made an offer for Twitter without being careful (checking some basic information) His offer was insanely over-priced. Probably his megalomania is kind of responsible for that. When he realized his fault he wanted to cancel the contract. Well he failed at that. He made an ass out of himself in some way of form. Now he wants to prove even more how smart he is. He has some weird ideas how Twitter can raise its profit. I am no expert but it seems very likely that his plan won't function.

He now wants to demand 8 dollar per month for verification of an account. That sounds so ridiculous though it could work. But his investment was so over-priced that this won't be enough revenue.

Now comes Musks approach of politics into play. He wanted to brag to his right-wing and libertarian friends how much he is a free-speech absolutist. He said he wants that Trump can return to Twitter. Everything that is not illegal should be allowed on the platform. There are some topics which are unclear. Hate speech, revenge porn, doxxing, harrassment etc.

To be honest I think Twitter was quite liberal in this instance than for example Facebook. On the other hand there are many evil bullies on Twitter. People who spread hatred as a hobby.

The whole thing won't work. The EU already protested that Twitter has to abide the EU rules. But the EU is not the main problem. The ad money is so essential for Twitter. When there is extreme content allowed on Twitter the companies don't want to see their ads in this context for example under a hate speech post. I think some car companies already announed to be really concerned about the development. They are competitors of Tesla and want to damage Musk.

So Musk has basically to decide between a full free-speech approach or bidding the companies to pay for ads. It is a conundrum.

If Twitter goes down Musk will have to pay for it. Maybe it will be a financial disaster. I think he already sold Tesla stocks for paying the costs. He now wants to fire many many Twitter staff to increase the profits.

Personally I doubt his plan will be successful. I feel kind of schadenfreude. Billionaires pay their fair-share in some manner if they waste their money in such a megalomaniac way.
 
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I don't know what to think. He overspent without doing due diligence for such a huge dollar amount and wanted to back out but he couldn't- that's a terrible start and who knows if he can recover from it. Cutting half the employees make you wonder- they are there dong work that needas to be done, and then suddenly you cut half the staff? Nothing he has done here inspires confidence. At this time this looks like Twitter will be a big failure for Elon Musk, but we'll see. He has had so much success that maybe he can get this to work over time, but I doubt if it will ever be worth the investment of time and money that he is putting into this.
 
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I've always wondered what I would do if I was a billionaire (would still welcome the chance to find out lol) and came to the conclusion that this is what these people do - once you've bought enough homes, enough flashy cars, the mandatory yacht, it must all get a little dull. So I suppose what they want to do then is try to buy other things that have some kind of purpose - in this case, he was trying to buy the ability to control what people talk about, I assume now if people criticise him, he will happily show how much he loves freedom of speech by unceremoniously closing their accounts as he does seem to be that petty. It's like Murdoch with his media empire, Murdoch said once that as someone who truly believed in 'conservative values' why wouldn't he use his media to push that narrative? I think he's influenced many elections in the UK and it doesn't seem right that it's allowed, this one person's views to be broadcast all over the world and given that weight and gravity. I don't think it's right that Musk was allowed to buy Twitter, although it's kind of hilarious the way it happened and I'm hoping it's causing him financial pain. Then again it's a private company and that's the way it works with private companies, would I be happier if it was owned by a government, like the way it is in China? That's not really ideal either. I think media and social media are such powerful tools now there really needs to be some protocol for who can own them and how they can make decisions. There is the potential for such harm just because this rich kid has decided it's his latest toy.
I can't see it working out well for him. The original founder of Twitter just launched a new social media site, so I'm guessing people might decide to move over to that if they don't like the way Twitter itself is heading. Musk might even find himself in trouble with governments and people like libel lawyers, I definitely feel he's bitten off more than he can chew. He seems to have already come to the conclusion that 'free speech' can not actually be absolute and that there has to be some limit. I feel about it the same way I feel about many things - I should be free to swing my arm, but not if by doing that I swing it into someone's face. But of course that was his reason for buying it, to 'free the bird' and allow anything to be written.
I also think he'll get bored. He doesn't seem to hold interest in these projects of his terribly long.
Perhaps it will indeed be his ruin indeed and we'll finally have heard the last of him. I'm keeping one eye on it as I know there's going to be more to come. An amusing enough diversion as I'm not personally on Twitter so don't really care that much about what happens to it.
 
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Twitter always has been an unprofitable business model. Its' only use is to gather information and sway opinion, and I'll leave you to guess how it has made ends meet during its' entire unprofitable existence. lol

If you realize this, suddenly it puts opinions about current events in a different light, doesn't it?

There sure seems to be a lot of glowing alphabet boys workin' in social media. I wonder why?





Don't you ever wonder how twitter managed to even claim a profit in 2018? What else was happening that year?

Do you think twitter was telling the truth? lmao.
 
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Sometimes a person with a tarck record of big success gets so confident that they bite off more than they can chew- this appears likely in this case. I think it is likely that he will achieve some of the social goals he wants, like ending permanent bans on twitter, but it is unlikley he can ever make this into a financial success.
 
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Elon Musk is worse than the Atomic Bomb
 
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Elon Musk is worse than the Atomic Bomb
He's ruyn some businesses very well- that's how he became the richest man in the world. BUt he rfeally seems to be messing up Twitter- he'll never make his money back the way it looks.
 
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But of course that was his reason for buying it, to 'free the bird' and allow anything to be written.
If you believe that, Catlover-

I've got a bridge in New York to sell ya'
Elon Musk is worse than the Atomic Bomb
In some ways, yes
he'll never make his money back the way it looks.
He doesn't have to. Twitter has always been a government front... just like Facebook, Instagram, etc.

My tax dollars at work. Well, mine and many other "5 eyes" countries' tax dollars.


How is it that in the "information age" nobody seems to understand how anything works?
A few thousand years ago, somebody said "my people perish for lack of knowledge".

Nothing new under the sun I guess. lol
 
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If you believe that, Catlover-

I've got a bridge in New York to sell ya'

In some ways, yes

He doesn't have to. Twitter has always been a government front... just like Facebook, Instagram, etc.

My tax dollars at work. Well, mine and many other "5 eyes" countries' tax dollars.


How is it that in the "information age" nobody seems to understand how anything works?
A few thousand years ago, somebody said "my people perish for lack of knowledge".

Nothing new under the sun I guess. lol
It's not the information age, but the demoralization age. Without gods or values people have become perfect slaves to the financial puppeteers. The fact that the biggest platforms we use to communicate on the Internet are obviously spying on everyone and being used to shape opinions is tacitly accepted. People are not just ignorant, they don't care about being lied to. Demoralized.

Or you could say inoculated apathy through the neurological changes that smartphone addiction causes. There are many things playing out here, all of them catastrophic.

Fun things should come sooner than later.
 
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Fun things should come sooner than later.
I think you're right.

Have you ever heard of Dr. James Giordano?
Here's a lecture he's given many places, but this particular vid was at the Modern War Institute, West Point.




Check the date on that. lol

It's more than just smartphone addiction, in my estimation.
People have no idea what they allowed themselves to be injected with.
Fun things, indeed.
 
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